President Obama Punches The Hippy

[WillyT]

President Obama Punches The Hippy
The Hall Chronicles
July 9, 2011 - Ray Hall

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The heart and soul of the Democratic Party I have know all my life has been that of a party that championed a strong middle class and fought vigorously to improve conditions for the poor, the working poor, the downtrodden and disabled. Today the Democratic Party is but a shell of its former self and bears little resemblance to FDR and the aspirations of JFK are a distant memory.

Instead of embracing divergent elements of the Democratic Party candidates are eager to use the party’s progressive wing as a “straw man.” Ever since Bill Clinton created a Sister Souljah moment in 1992 Democratic candidates want to demonstrate that they are unafraid to “Punch the Hippy.” (See Footnote)

Democrats flee in horror at the thought of being tagged a “wild eyed liberal” by Republicans. As a result Washington Democrats seem ready to abandon the remains of popular programs that changed the lives of millions of Americans for the better.

President Obama has put Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid in jeopardy just to appease reactionary Republicans using slash and burn tactics to advance a bizarre political agenda. Congressional Democrats claim they will remain steadfast in safeguarding programs that have become essential for the survival of so many Americans, but one can only hope...

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More: http://post-journal.com/page/blogs.detail/display/933/PRESIDENT-OBAMA-PUNCHES-THE-HIPPY.html

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[WinkyDink]

1. "Hippie," not "Hippy."

[WillyT]

6. Just Posting What The Author Wrote...

:shrug:

But you are correct.

:hi:

[Name removed]

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[Buns_of_Fire]

23. Really. The M$M is even trying to compromise our sacred name.

There are "Hippies" (those of us who lived through the Summer of Love, Woodstock, etc.).

There are "Hippys" (those of us who don't look their best in spandex).

There are even "Hippy Hippies" -- I leave that to your imagination.

And, of course, there are the "Hipsters" (mostly those who remember Jack Kerouac and Lenny Bruce and "Naked Lunch" and spent part of our youth learning to play the bongos and reciting poetry that didn't rhyme or usually didn't even make sense).

But "Punching Hippys?" All in all, not a good idea. These days, those "Hippys" are more inclined to punch back as not.

Hmmmph.:smoke:

[NNN0LHI]

2. No, it was the folks who had to be "hip", and buy a certain imported car that killed SS and Medicare

Because the workers who built those cars never contributed one dime to our social programs. And that began long before Obama became president. I know this because I was laid off most of the 1980's because of this kind of stupidity.

Congratulations America.

Don

[Fumesucker]

8. I don't think Volkswagen buses caused the downfall of SS and Medicare.. n/t

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[EFerrari]

19. I still remember Bill Clinton and Al Gore saying that it was okay

if manufacturing moved out of the country because we would all get jobs in tech. I know this goes back much further than that. Iirc, the word "downsizing" was coined in the late 70s or very early 80s when we started working. Talk about your bad timing. :)

[RKP5637]

28. I well remember in hi-tech asking senior mgmt. about some of the R&D jobs

moving out of the country, the response was "oh, we're going to manage them."

I thought to myself at the time what a load of BS that was. People in other countries aren't stupid. They don't need a bunch of people sitting around in the US managing them. At that time a lot of the sw dev. jobs were going to Ireland.

A lot of the tech support jobs were moving to Singapore, and manuf. had already gone to China and Singapore. And the call centers were moving to India.

Americans have had soooooo much BS pushed on them. Yep, that's about the time I remember this starting up, late 70s or very early 80s.

Everything has about zero credibility with me anymore. I've lived through too much and experienced too much.

We have also lost our core competencies in this country. When I saw what was happening to manufacturing any not seeing their jobs going too weren't reading the large handwriting on the walls.

[Mimosa]

21. Not just cars. Go to Home Depot, Brandsmart, etc. MADE IN CHINA

It's not our choice that everything is made in China. Bush 41 and Clinton pushed the remaining jobs to China.

[_ed_]

29. Are you really suggesting that people purchasing

Volkswagens killed Medicare and SS? Maybe you were laid off in the 1980s because of THAT kind of stupidity...

Here are some facts:

"In the 1980s, Volkswagen's sales in the United States and Canada fell dramatically, despite the success of models like the Golf elsewhere. The Japanese and the Americans were able to compete with similar products at lower prices. Sales in the United States were 293,595 in 1980, but by 1984 they were down to 177,709."

[MineralMan]

3. Pretty lame, really. Wrong, too.

[Fumesucker]

10. Your argument is well thought out and completely convincing..

:eyes:

[MineralMan]

12. It wasn't an argument. It was an opinion.

Arguments use more words. This wasn't worth more words. See my signature line.

[Fumesucker]

24. Personally I tend to form opinions that are at least marginally tethered to reality..

But whatever floats your boat.

MoveOn was censured by Congress for using a nickname created by his own troops for General Petraeus.

ACORN was killed by Congress over claims that turned out to be based on deceptively edited videos by a known liar.

Shirley Sherrod was forced to resign via text message on the side of the road by a Democratic administration, also based on deceptively edited video by a known liar.

I could go on in this vein for a while but I rather suspect it wouldn't make an iota of difference to your opinion.

:hi:

[MineralMan]

25. Well, you believe you do, anyhow.

I suppose that is enough.

[Fumesucker]

26. I provided evidence for my opinion on the OP..

You?

[emulatorloo]

4. Every body is entitled to an opinion. That doesn't make everybody's opinion

factual.

I still have not seen a quote by Obama saying he is offering to cut social security or medicare benefits. The author acts as if he is close to the negotiations and has secret insight into the psychology of Obama. He is in possession of neither.

[RKP5637]

5. Time will tell and IMO the future does not look good. I wish I could take my

vote back!

[emulatorloo]

9. If I beleive every speculative bullshit Op-Ed piece, I'd be in the mental hospital.

My poor sister was a slave to the bullshit rantings of Sean Hannity. She was terrified in the last few years of her life.

[RKP5637]

27. I agree with you 100%! Yes, thank you! Also, sorry to hear about your

sister. Some of this stuff certainly gets mind bending.

[Vincardog]

7. IF PBHO wants to punch the Hippie he should run as a REPUBLICAN and let a real Democrat represent us

[jaxx]

11. Another verse of "he done us wrong".

Unrec

[OHdem10]

13. Once again all that charisma and absolutely no political sense,

in fact a political tin-ear.

I kinda feel sorry for Obama at times. He came along
just when Liberals and Progressives have had it up to
their eyeballs with the too cute by half pretend triangulation.

WE SEE CLEARLY now Conservative Wing of the Party does
what it wants. We also watched the Conservative Democrats
take a shellacing in the last election.

The American People know the silly game and it makes
them distrust the President. The American People know
the Left is not a bunch of 60s Hippies. The American
People know most of serious Left have long ago joined
the Greens. The Greens are growing and Americans are
voting for them.

It is only the DC Republicans and Democrats on the Hill
who do not even know the base of their party.

No, I do not think this was punch the Hippie. It is the
Conservatism of DLC, Third Way Politics trying to strike
some bargain. Do not forget---Who lost out in the last
election. The People say WE are going in the wrong direction.
Yet, the President continues to affirm the RW Policies
which we all know caused the calamity in the first place.

Give the people a choice of a Real Republican and a fake
Republican and they will choose the real thing every time.

[RKP5637]

16. Your last sentence is what concerns me about 2012. I live in a mixed R/D area, but

in 2010 that went solid R. Now I hear a lot of D's/I's upset in this area with the D's. IMO, anymore, there is a lot of R/D overlap, and some D's acting like R's.

Depending on who the R candidate is in 2012, and if people are still anxious with the WH, I'm concerned about what the 2012 outcome might be. If it's R, I think this nation is headed for a world of hurt.

For me, I've never felt so disconnected from the DC D party in my life. I don't think I'm alone. I've been through a lot of presidents.

[Jim Warren]

14. It is a bit lame

but the piece raises a point:

"Democrats flee in horror at the thought of being tagged a “wild eyed liberal” by Republicans."

We've allowed the dialog to shift and played into their game. A candidate is perceived to be light in the ass and liberal has become a dirty word.

A sign we're back on track is when a person can again stand up and be strong and say proudly they are a liberal, and it's good to be a caring, sentient, human being.

[Springer9]

15. A self descibed cranky old man, but with a short memory

if He thinks it all started in 1992.

Punching the Hippy? How about beating the Hippy to a bloody pulp by the Democratic Party's goon squad taking orders from Mayor Daley in 1968 Chicago and then holding a "show trial" to further intimidate the otherwise peaceful left who just wanted an end to war and injustice?



Oh ya, that's the Democratic Party in my lifetime, not some dewy eyed memory of what was supposed to be. It is what it is.


Real scary hippies, hide your women and children.

[peacetalksforall]

20. All my apprehensions played out. That is absurd logic. I can't pick him up anymore.

[Fly by night]

22. When it comes to medical cannabis, BO isn't punching the hippie, ...

... he is just accelerating a needlessly painful death for hippies (and all their non-hippie brethern/sisthern).

But hey, if the President's going to be wrong about so many things, at least we can give him a thumb's up for consistency.

Hope? Change? Just what were we smoking back in 2008?

[upi402]

30. The hippies were right, as it turns out

But don't tell the duped quasi-Dems here that. If you're left of fascism- you're librul now.

[mzmolly]

31. "Obama has put Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid in jeopardy"

any proof of this yet?