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Springer9 Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 12:23 PM
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Man Flies To Los Angeles Without Ticket Or ID
Authorities Investigate Security Breach At JFK After Man Flies To Los Angeles Without Ticket Or ID
June 30, 2011 1:12 PM

Reporting Carol D'Auria


NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) – Authorities are looking into a shocking security breach that took place at John F. Kennedy International Airport last week.

Investigators say Olajide Oluwaseun Noibi, a Nigerian, boarded Virgin America Flight 415 to Los Angeles without a valid passport or identification, using an expired boarding pass for a flight the day before that belonged to someone else.


They didn't even check him for a diaper!

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/06/30/authorities-investigate-security-breach-at-jfk-airport-after-man-flies-to-los-angeles-without-ticket/
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 12:26 PM
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1. So, he got through both TSA and the airline, since the airline checks
the tickets as they board?
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 12:27 PM
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2. Groping his groin would have prevented this from happening!!!
What's up with TSA? We're they reading copies of "My Pet Goat" while this guy passed through security?
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:04 PM
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3. They were counting their money
Their part of the $12.8 million, of which they would be getting 40%, for letting him use their bank account to make a wire transfer.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:10 PM
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27. ...
:spray: !!!

I thought they same thing, but you put it so well!!

LOL
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:18 PM
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4. A shocking security breach? Who are they kidding.
There is nothing about this that shocks me, because the TSA is not interested in security - they only do security theater.

When was the last time that the TSA actually stopped a real live terrorist from boarding a plane?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:43 PM
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7. How do you measure prevention?
Your claim is like getting rid of your home security system because no one has tried to break in.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:54 PM
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10. Answer the question. When was the last time the TSA actually stopped
a terrorist at the gate.

They didn't stop the shoe bomber. Or the underwear bomber. Or any number of people who 'tested' security, whether for the TSA or independently, by smuggling weapons (or pseudo-weapons) on board.

When was the last time they actually stopped someone who had intent to harm?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:01 PM
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13. Dude...
look up the word "prevention". The point is to keep terrorists from even trying.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:08 PM
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15. Dude - a guy just flew cross country with an invalid boarding pass.
This isn't like dismantling your security system because you haven't been burglarized. It's like putting a sticker on the window saying "Protected By Apex Security Systems" when you don't even have one.

There are security measures that work, and the TSA is not using any of them. Instead, they're groping granny. Security theater.

What you are positing is the exact same bullshit argument that "George Bush kept us safe - there's not been a single terrorist incident since 9/11" - except, of course, for all those terrorist incidents since 9/11,

Think about it - did TSA prevention keep this guy off the plane?
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:12 PM
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16. Did this guy have any weapons or...
do anything to the plane?

No. Not excusing the incident, but it hardly invalidates the TSA. If you have a better idea, get a hearing before Congress.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:41 PM
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19. Do you have any idea how many things a would-be terrorist can arm himself with
on a plane? Things that poke and stab, things that cut? You can slit a throat with a little plastic serrated knife off a dining tray. You can strangle with the plastic tubing from the emergency oxygen mask. A Bic pen can pierce a jugular or a wind pipe. Those are just a few obvious weapons - there are more available. Believe me.

If this guy had wanted to take the plane down, he very possibly could have.

Know what works? Proper ticketing. Profiling for suspicious behaviors. Air marshals on board. Dogs sniffing for explosives, both in the passenger lines and the baggage compartments.

You know, like they do it in Europe.

The TSA, as constituted today, is a boondoggle. And somebody (not the gropers themselves, of course) is getting rich off it.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:04 PM
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24. Get yourself a hearing before Congress...
you're arguing the need for airport security and are advocating making it more in-depth.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:07 PM
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25. Exactly. I'm arguing for what the TSA and its gropers are NOT giving us.
You really do excel at missing the point.
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:10 PM
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26. I don't recall saying that the TSA has...
no room for improvement.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:00 PM
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12. "Security Theater" - I like that
And it's true. You would be surprised how much contraband makes it across the USA, and how easy it is to do.
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:19 PM
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5. This story is big news in LA. He would have gotten away with it but he tried to do it again
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:36 PM
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6. If he got away with it once, why would he press his luck a few days later?
and where was he going in the first place??
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:05 PM
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14. He's Nigerian, and there is a good possibility he was being baited
Chasing the elusive payday. Pie in the sky. Nobody in the baiting realm has claimed the 'Mother of all safaris' yet, but it would certainly a fantastic conclusion to the story.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 03:37 PM
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29. OH that would be rich

I wouldn't put it past a good baiter to have provided him with the boarding pass.
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Brother Buzz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 07:00 PM
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30. A good baiter would never, ever, send anything to a lad other than words of encouragement
This discarded boarding pass scam requires brass balls and merits points on ingenuity. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:47 PM
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8. This calls for anal probes!
Clearly the current system is not working.
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greytdemocrat Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:48 PM
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9. Hopefully they have promoted the responsible TSA
Agent into Senior Mgt. :+
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 01:58 PM
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11. I am not surprised
Mexico city, they don't use crazy light. They met my face repeteadly, looked at the dang passport and asked me my name a few times. When was Tge last time TSA really challenged bona fides?

Theater...not security.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:15 PM
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17. DITTO to the Security "Theater"
TSA and the Dept. of Homeland Bureaucracy are jokes.

They stop,

Pilots

Flight Attendants

Children

Grandparents.

And yet, they vomit up outrage when absurd holes in security are exposed (the pilot guy that released a vid of ground worker types, that just use their ID to get in doors, that have no security screening).

Regarding this clown...my conspiracy theory is this...he knows someone that works in an airport, either as some kind of ticket/gate agent or even as an airport cleaner. They either printed out extra boarding passes for unwitting passengers (and FBI should be able to very EASILY check those boarding passes to see where the real passengers checked in...OR...extra or discarded boarding passes were scavenged from trash containers behind counters or near kiosks...OR...if the names / reservations are fully bogus, they need to determine how they were faked (not sure what Virgin America or Delta boarding passes look like).

The report is saying that it was at a Delta flight, LAX-ATL, where he was stopped by a Gate Agent that was scanning the boarding passes at boarding...it also seems that one that he used was wrong name, date and flight.

LOTS of questions to be answered BUT...the goofs at TSA will never tell us the truth.

Get your popcorn ready for the lies.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:39 PM
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18. Airport ground workers DO NOT get searched- suborn one or more, and a bad guy has the Golden Ticket.
All a prospective mule/terrorist/fugitive needs is a 'clean' ID and the ability to act like just another passenger,

and they can carry what they will onto a plane. I daresay Whitey Bulger flew commercial more than once during his fugitive years.


TSA is indeed a joke.
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:53 PM
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23. The TSA is garbage.
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 02:54 PM by Dawson Leery
Security theater indeed.
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Carolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:43 PM
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20. Now we're all gonna pay for
more TSA failure by ever more intrusive scrutiny!

Ain't that grand! The TSA has never done jack to protect us but with each episode of its ineptitude, we, the people, pay the price.

I hate flying and avoid it like the plague, but sadly, there are times when it's a necessary evil.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:46 PM
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21. But grandma has to remove her diaper?
Edited on Thu Jun-30-11 02:47 PM by liberal N proud
:wft:

Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors.

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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 02:48 PM
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22. He might be a journalist
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-30-11 07:14 PM
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31. Thanks for that link, quite interesting.
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