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somone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 07:28 AM Original message |
Teacher Grades: Pass or Be Fired |
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IndyPragmatist (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
1. I've never been a fan of grading teachers |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:56 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Most professions are graded in one form or another |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The problem is who is doing the grading and their criteria. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. For many years, even as an NEA member I critized union leadership for not taking point on evals |
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IndyPragmatist (556 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I'm completely for teacher evaluations, but |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. Let me ask you this: |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:53 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. No different than any other professional |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 07:56 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I do as well. 99% of them are good. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. Most of those that insist on grading teachers |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. the biggest problem is that teaching and learning are a partnership.... |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I agree, which is one of the reasons I feel that our union leaders screwed us all by being in denial |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 07:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. but what means would you suggest for "fairly" rating and evaluating teachers...? |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-29-11 09:37 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. My current favorite approach is to make Dept Heads take on most of it |
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dkf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Maybe grading students isn't fair either. |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 07:45 AM Response to Original message |
2. I question the academic credentials and experience of the evaluators |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Of course not. In fact , many evaluation systems |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. That's an appropriate picture |
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RC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. First they won't let teachers teach, then they fire them because the students didn't pass the test. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
8. I don't see any problem with evaluating teachers for their performance |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:23 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Agree. Rating interactions by checklist is a corporate model that can't work. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 06:54 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. One of the reasons unions should have taken the lead in teacher evaluations is to get a system that |
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Hissyspit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. It is quite possibly worthless. |
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dembotoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
11. if me and a couple of buddies hated our teacher |
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LetTimmySmoke (970 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
15. All this will do is push turnover at low income schools even higher. |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-28-11 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
24. The first year is very hard. |
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