" One can argue that in squelching the Vatican Council, the Vatican has been in schism for 40 years"

[hedgehog]

The other side of the Catholic tradition
By Matthew Fox

People who came of age in the past 40 years have known only one version of the Roman Catholic Church—a version of an iron-fisted ideology that first John Paul II and then Benedict XVI have enforced in the process of condemning condoms, birth control, liberation theology, creation spirituality, women, gays, the “secular world” and much more. World-over the hierarchy are being criticized for coddling pedophile priests and bishops while denouncing theologians and others who bring ideas to an age-old tradition.

All these thoughts and more emerged last weekend at an event in Detroit sponsored by progressive Catholic groups networking as the “American Catholic Council.” So opposed to the event was Detroit Archbishop Allen Vigneron, that the priest who was to lead the final Mass was told the day before that if he did so he would be laicized. At the last minute a Canadian priest was shipped in to lead the Mass for the American Catholic Council of 2000 participants including representatives from similar groups in Europe and Australia.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/guest-voices/post/the-other-side-of-the-catholic-tradition/2011/06/14/AGQuyeUH_blog.html

[eShirl]

1. very interesting; thanks for posting

will read it in full later today

[midnight]

2. K&R. I get hopeful when I read that their is movement in the

Catholic church that may someday bring about badly needed reform...


"Aquinas insisted that one is always responsible to one’s conscience, more than to any other authority. (Indeed, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. cites Aquinas on this point in his famous Letter from Birmingham Jail.) Aquinas was condemned by church authorities three times after he died but eventually was declared a saint. "

[LAGC]

3. I'd really love to see some of these reformers cure all the evils of the Church Hierarchy.

But it just seems like its one man trying to stop a freight-train, getting anything changed in the Vatican.

The Catholic Church is corrupt from the top-down and needs a serious house-cleaning. They need a serious insurrection or at least "tithe revolt" where liberal parishes withhold all money from the Vatican's coffers, as that would seem to be the only thing that might change their minds, is if the $$$ stop flowing in.

[nichomachus]

5. The Vatican is the oldest most firmly entrenched corrupt government in history

They have been plying their evil trade for more than a millennium.

[formercia]

4. The greatest Crime perpetrated by the Vatican

is the attempted destruction of Liberation Theology. It has cost hundreds of thousands of innocent lives over the years, just so a few ruling families and the conservative wing of the Church hierarchy could maintain power.

[xchrom]

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