How is sending an unsolicited explicit picture different from "flashing"?

[LoZoccolo]

[dkf]

1. Good question.

[kestrel91316]

2. No difference. Do we know for a fact that Weiner did so??

[seabeyond]

7. are you suggesting we have a trial to see if that woman is lying? really? otherwise, ya. nt

[emulatorloo]

48. All the others wanted pix. I think it is possible Breitbart or the "Christian" hackers sent this

One. Or else Weiner sent it by mistake.

[seabeyond]

49. that makes a difference. either way...

if he meant to (and seems like he didnt) that would matter. if accident, then a different story

[formernaderite]

23. well the 21 year old received an unsolicited pic

and he himself admitted, he had no way of knowing the true ages of anyone he sent them to.
Flasher, is a very good analogy.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

27. The 21 year old received a pic that was deleted before she viewed it.

The only copies she saw were the tagged re-tweets and screen grabs.

Maybe it's like being flashed while you have your back turned... but you have a friend nice enough to snap a photo so you can get your jollies anyway.

[formernaderite]

55. the intention however was still to flash her

it doesn't matter if she never saw it.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

3. Help me out here because I clearly haven't followed this story as closely...

... as DU's super sleuths. But is he accused of intentionally sending dirty pics to random women or to women he was sexting with?

[kick-ass-bob]

4. I haven't either, but apparently he was trying to direct message via twitter

with someone, which you can only do if you 'follow' each other. That might kill a little of the 'flashing' angle, but maybe not.

/s
registered Twitter-newb

[LoZoccolo]

5. Gennette Cordova said that the picture came out of the blue.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

11. That's not my understanding. The message was sent and deleted before she saw it.

The only copies she saw were the tagged copies passed around by the gang of stalkers.

[snooper2]

13. Well, your understanding is wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0aTph7NebI

Or will you continue to promote your "stalker" theory to try help poor Anthony out....

[Hassin Bin Sober]

18. Try again. The video you posted proves my point.

[snooper2]

19. only if you are smoking crack or meth

[Hassin Bin Sober]

24. What's you point here? She says she was having a sexting relationship.

Say what you want, your video dis-proves your point. Try again.

According to Broussard, the two immediately began messaging through Facebook chat, eventually exchanging "hundreds of messages," many of a sexual nature.

Because of how Facebook messaging works, ABC News was not able to view records of the alleged chats.

He would say "just good morning, how are you doing, what are you doing today? What are you wearing? What do you like? You know, in the bedroom, you know, that sort of thing," she said.

[snooper2]

28. "The only copies she saw were the tagged copies passed around by the gang of stalkers."

I don't know what kind of word game you are trying to play..

But Weiner sent picks of himself and his cock to numerous women..

They didn't get them the first time from some "stalker"

[Hassin Bin Sober]

31. Maybe you should read the OP and the start of this sub-thread.

My only point is he didn't send pictures to random people..... like a flasher.

He sent pics to people he was having risque conversations with. That's my ONLY point.

You pulled a video out of your ass that proved my point.

That's all.

[boston bean]

29. you're getting your women mixed up. he sent an unsolicited pic to Gennette Cordova.

[snooper2]

30. Regardless, he sent pictures of his cock, it wasn't "roving stalkers"

that took him down..it was one person. Anthony

Hassan here seems to not get that point

[Hassin Bin Sober]

32. No, not "regardless"... you stuck your foot in your mouth. Now apologize.

[snooper2]

33. So I got the wrong chick he was wanting to fuck..

Kind of gets hard to keep track of them all..

Still doesn't change the fact I commented on your comment-
"The only copies she saw were the tagged copies passed around by the gang of stalkers."

Who were you talking about and why are you still promoting this stupid theory to cover for Anthony's weiner?

[Hassin Bin Sober]

34. Cordova. Get it right.

I said he didn't send unsolicited pics to random people he wasn't having a sexting relationship with - you know, like a fucking "flasher"

Someone else piped in and said he sent an unsolicited pic to Cordova. He did. And deleted it before she saw it. THE ONLY COPIES SHE SAW WERE FROM THIRD PARTIES!

GET IT?

[NYCGirl]

35. When he sent that pic, he mistakenly sent it to his entire

list of THOUSANDS of followers, instead of sending it as a private message. It was, though, addressed to her. That is how Twitter works.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

41. "mistakenly" is the operative phrase here.

That doesn't make him a "flasher", does it?

That's my point in this thread. Like I initially said, I haven't followed it THAT closely so I said I didn't believe he INTENTIONALLY sent the pic to anyone unsolicited or to anyone he wasn't having a sexting or sexually suggestive conversation with - like a "flasher"

Supersnooper stuck his vast intellect in to the conversation and posted a video which confused the two ladies AND made my EXACT POINT at the same time.

[NYCGirl]

43. Well, it was addressed to her. And she said she didn't request it.

When Weiner realized what he did, he tried to delete the pic, but enough people in his 1000s of followers had seen it. But why was he sending it in the first place?

IMO, he is an idiot to be using his @RepWeiner Twitter account to hit on girls.

[Hassin Bin Sober]

51. For the fifth time, it was sent to her and deleted. The only copies she saw were from third parties.

[NYCGirl]

52. For the sixth time, it was sent to THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.

Some of which might have known her personally.

[Name removed]

53. Deleted message

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[snooper2]

42. Really, "Asked if she was taken aback by his decision to send the photo"

"she responded, “Oh gosh, yes.”

But in your mind they were all asking for it right?

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/09/nyregion/weiners-pattern-turning-political-admirers-into-online-pursuits.html

[LoZoccolo]

45. You may be confusing him "sending" the picture, with Cordova "recieving" the picture.

[TNLib]

56. She was sending him pictures of herself as well that were suggestive

It wasn't out of the blue sorry.

[idiotgardener]

6. Aren't flashers generally naked (under their coats)?

Plus it's in person, which automatically makes it scarier.

[damntexdem]

9. Well, we're all naked under our clothes.

Whereas Wiener was naked under his shorts.

;-)

[idiotgardener]

16. :-)

True.

But you know what I meant, right?

[kitchenrat]

8. physical presence

the absence of the flasher removes any immediate physical threat. i'm not sure if flashing is done in hope of a positive sexual response or merely to shock the victim. (i must say i think the word victim is a bit of a stretch, how about "flashee"?) the degree of criminality here seems to be in the eye of the beholder. every time a member of the opposite sex has flashed their "naughty bits" at me, it improved my day a great deal.

[dixiegrrrrl]

10. tisn't.

It is also violating Federal porno laws.
No one has mentioned that.

[LadyHawkAZ]

20. Which ones?

[Lex]

12. Physical presence (immediate opportunity for unwanted physical contact)

I think the physical presence of the nutjob is what's most disturbing. Not the fact he has a penis (duh we knew he had one).

[Taverner]

14. Simple - flashers take their underwear off first

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

15. And you know they were unsolicited how? Sexting often involves pics

[Logical]

17. It is not. And the main person in this story was sent the crotch picture without requesting it. n-t

[Nye Bevan]

21. Flashers are creepy old men in raincoats.

Weiner is a handsome Congressman with a ridiculous bulge.

[TheCowsCameHome]

22. Raincoats don't need batteries

......I guess........

[buddysmellgood]

25. The newspaper sends pictures of people in their underwear everyday.

[Johonny]

37. should we arrest everyone on the beach?

IDK when you friend people on social sites you are giving a form of consent and as long as the material fits in the format of consent to content to the site... it's a lot different than flashing. Now there apparently is a full monty photo which doesn't follow the rules of twitter I believe so if that was sent there might be some argument.

[bemildred]

26. Ceci n'est pas une pipe.

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[Broderick]

36. It's not in my book.

[LoZoccolo]

38. My books says that it's worse than flashing, and that he should go to jail for fifty years.

[Forkboy]

39. lol...must be written in crayon.

[Broderick]

40. No, but I wouldn't send some anonymous stranger

pics of my stuff, and I am not a rep. The likelihood of it being a breitbart on the other end in drag pretending is too real. And even if they ask for it I wouldn't do it, so I certainly wouldn't do it unsolicited. That is like flashing to me. In his job, who knows who is on the other end - a foreign spy just waiting to blackmail him for state secrets perhaps....? Just dumb on his part, the whole thing.

[Cannikin]

44. If not flashing, then definitely like meeting someone at a club and whipping out your junk.

[Broderick]

46. Do women really get turned on by that anyway?

Even if you are a good looking guy with good appendages? I guess I can only speculate in your analogy that they might be in fact frightened and creeped out? If not, I wish they would let me know, and I will start doing that immediately.

If so, who wants to bet I spend the next few years in jail and have to register monthly as a sex offender?

[Cannikin]

47. I cannot speak for certain, for I am male, but MOST women I've encountered

would be put off or disgusted by receiving something like that unsolicited. It seems like for years I've heard "men only care about one thing" when it comes to women, and actions like the ones we're dealing with just don't seem to help break that stereotype!

But, gay guys I know would be turned on by it. I think it's a male thing.

[Motown_Johnny]

50. How do you know these were unsolicited? (Also, you can delete them)

As I understand it some of the women were sending pictures back.

To my knowledge nobody complained about any of these pics. Rep. Weiner simply misclicked and posted something that he meant to send, that is what caused the current problems.

[lynne]

54. TOO EASY! A unsolicited flash -

- is a solitary event. It remains only in the memory of the flasher and the flashee. As it is only a "flash", it is usually done in surprise and is not caught on film. It's a "my word against yours" situation should the flashee ever mention it to another individual.

An explicit picture is there forever, especially if on the internet. It's been copied to thousands of hard drives and has been put on posters, tee-shirts, hats and mugs. It will raise its ugly head at the most inappropriate moments and will follow the flasher around forever. Literally. Forever.

REALLY silly question.

[WatsonT]

57. Depends on who sent it

if they have the right politics it's None of Our Business.

Otherwise: string 'em up!