81% of liberals approve of Barack Obama.

[LoZoccolo]

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Approval-Center.aspx

[NYC_SKP]

1. And 84% of Democrats and 90% of Liberal Democrats!

Not bad!!!

:patriot:

[RandySF]

2. Apparently they don't read DU. :)

[MrScorpio]

4. Says a lot about DU, doesn't it? nt

[nonperson]

8. Says a lot more about what we've come to define as liberal

This nation has moved so far to the right the center is what used to be far right and what we now refer to as liberals were called conservatives just thirty years ago.

[Ikonoklast]

10. Most Democrats I know have no clue what DU is.

But then again, they are actual Democrats.

[MrScorpio]

13. Damn Skippy! nt

[sabrina 1]

14. What happened last Novemenber?

The polls said the same thing back then, but the real poll said what DUers were saying. If you don't represent those who supported you, do not count on their votes.

As for polls, if someone calls our house and asks 'do you approve of the president' even though on so many issues we do not, we will say 'yes'. He's a democrat, we are not going to tell a pollster we do not support democrats.

The poll that mattered was last November's election and it reflected exactly what was seen on DU. Same thing with Ted Kennedy's seat.

Democrats would do well to listen to real people and not depend on polls like this as they did last year. That was a bad mistake. But they CAN win people over, all they have to do is keep their campaign promises.

If they want the votes as well a 'yes' on a poll, they better start acting like democrats.

[Ikonoklast]

16. Kucinich constantly wins DU polls as to who should be the presidential candidate.

I rest my case.

[sabrina 1]

33. Kucinich constantly wins his Congressional seat.

Last November, the Blue Dogs lost, as predicted on DU and everywhere else where people live in the real world. The same thing happened in Mass. with Kennedy's seat and party leadership refused to get the message. When you do not represent the people who elected you, the stop voting for you.

[JoePhilly]

43. Which explainds Fiengold and Grayson's losses?

They were blue dogs?

[Tarheel_Dem]

46. This should be good.

:popcorn:




:rofl:

[LoZoccolo]

20. Most DUers in blue dog districts voted Republican?

That seems to be what you are saying here:

The poll that mattered was last November's election and it reflected exactly what was seen on DU.

Emphasis mine.

[sabrina 1]

31. No, they decided that voting for Blue Dogs WAS voting

Republican, and were no longer willing to do that. So they stayed home.

And DU predicted that, but the few die-hards who were looking at polls, refused to accept that people would no longer vote against their own principles.

[LoZoccolo]

47. How do you know this that they decided that?

[SDuderstadt]

26. Yes, Sabrina....

only YOU know what a Democrat is really like (by the way, a Democrat of the Democratic Party is always spelled with a capital D).

Oh, wait...I spent the day working with Democrats at the state and county level. They are solidly behind Obama. Maybe you have us mixed up with Code Pink.

[pnwmom]

28. Why do you pretend that people on the far left are the ONLY people

who supported Obama? He won by a large margin because he drew votes from across the voting spectrum -- not just those on the left. So he has just as much of an obligation to work on behalf of those in the center as he does on the left. Actually, he's obligated to work for all Americans, no matter where they stand politically.

As far as his campaign promises go, I think he's done a good job meeting them, given his limitations with Congress. People who thought he'd be more liberal than HRC were deluded. He never pretended to be anything but the pragmatic progressive that he is.

[sabrina 1]

34. I'm not on the far left, far from it.

It's the Independent vote that will matter most in 2012. Obama will get most of the Dem vote but many who worked hard for him last time, will not be doing so this time. I, eg, will be putting all that energy into Congressional races to help Progressive Dems win.

People do not fit in these boxes as neatly as you seem to think, 'left' 'far 'left' etc. I rarely meet people in the real world who care about these labels. They vote on issues. The hard work done by, mostly progressives, who went door to door, made calls, donated over and over again and GOTV. persuaded a lot of people to vote for Obama. Last November, while those people may have voted for Dems, many did not work so hard because of the disappointment they felt on the major issues.

You don't get people's support when you demonstrate that you only care about them when YOU need THEM. And Obama's supporters are probably his worst problem to be honest. And, Bush is long gone. Many Independents eg, and many of the new voters came out to vote because of the eight years of Bush.

I'd like to see a poll of Independent voters. Of course liberals are going to poll well for him, but they won't win the election for him. And he won't win without the volunteers who GOTV and as I said, I won't be doing that this time, not unless I see a lot less bi-partisanship and a lot more of him doing what we elect Democrats to do.

President of all the people? Yes, and we vote for a Democrat based on a belief that he believes that Democratic ideas, NOT Republican ideas, are what are best for all the people. If you're saying he thinks Republicans have ideas that are good for this country, then he should have told us that BEFORE the election. No way would I support someone who believes that.

[SDuderstadt]

45. Luckily...

you do not speak for the Democratic Party.

I know it just it irks you that Obama is so popular.

[treestar]

55. +1

They use language as if they are in control, and can punish us with Republican victories by their passive-aggressive BS.

[Name removed]

27. Deleted message

Sub-thread removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

9. Any internet board is not a valid reflection of American opinion.

Good luck convincing most of the people who post on them of that though. :)

[sufrommich]

39. I agree. nt

[Tarheel_Dem]

3. But of course we already knew that. Advice for the future? Disregard the internet noise. (nt)

;)

[leftstreet]

5. What's a liberal?

How do they differ from progressives? Democrats?

One wonders

[Hardrada]

7. Liberals are wishy washy hand wringers

and contribute little to the raising of a socialist consciousness.

[white_wolf]

17. I'm not sure I completely agree here.

I myself was a liberal before I became a socialist, though now I'm a socialist/trotkyist, though I wouldn't have been when if I hadn't been a liberal first.

[Hardrada]

30. That is one way to go I suppose. I go through various political

moods during the day and am mostly progressive on certain issues.

[Maru Kitteh]

6. And I would be one of them.

[Enrique]

11. which is why the Patriot Act passed without much protest

pre-Obama, the Patriot Act was always highly controversial.

But now, with Obama's very strong backing, it sailed through, something like 92-7.

And it's all thanks to Obama's massive popularity, including among liberals. :bounce:

[Angry Dragon]

18. That was just a vote to end debate

They still have to vote on the bill

[Ramulux]

25. Bingo

As long as Obama supports something, that thing automatically becomes something liberals support. Its a sad state of affairs.

[Zorra]

12. Cool. Then I can vote my conscience and vote for the Green Party candidate without

LOL}(
:spray:

[hfojvt]

15. whole lotta ignorance in the world, isn't there?

What's your point again? I am supposed to change my mind because of a poll?

[Name removed]

19. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[LoZoccolo]

21. I am the one who has gotten us this far.

[Electric Monk]

23. lol wut?

[Forkboy]

24. You got that right.....

[tekisui]

44. You can't be serious. Can you?

I hope not.

[donheld]

22. doesn't mean 81% agree with everything he does, or how he goes about it.

[whatchamacallit]

29. Oh I get it... guess I better too then! fail/unrec/nt

[Hannah Bell]

32. and before he got osama it was 72%. and unless he kills osama again it will

probably return to that or worse unless the economy changes.

[Raine]

35. 19% don't, so why do the other 80-85%

keep bullying the 19% that if they don't vote everyone will have President Palin!?! Make up your minds, the 19% are either so important the election hinges on their 19% or they are so small they don't matter at all! :wtf:

[Exilednight]

40. He only beat McCain by 7% of the total vote. The administration is scared, and they should be. n/t

[NNN0LHI]

51. About a half a million rocket scientists voted for Nader over Obama last election

That probably accounts for a good chunk of the 19%.

Don

[elocs]

36. I think you should stick with "K & R if you like Barack Obama". n/t

[Fumesucker]

37. Argumentum ad populum..

It's fascinating how you repeat the same formal logical error over and over, expecting different results every time.

Einstein said that was the definition of insanity, see my sig pic.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

In logic, an argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people") is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges: "If many believe so, it is so."

[Fumesucker]

38. Self delete, dupe..

[Shagbark Hickory]

41. I guess I'm the only one who clicked on the link. LOL.

Lozcoco, if you wrote aliens have landed on Earth and put a link with no snips, people would take your word for it.

[Bluenorthwest]

42. What's he got to do with it? The approval or lackl of approval

is for and about policy. It is not him, but for example, his dogmatic, faith based and ignorant opposition to equal human rights for all Americans that I do not approve of. According to most polls, the majority stands with me, favoring equal rights, the minority comprised mostly of Republicans stands with the Obama family and McClurkin, claiming that Arnold and the Ensigns are 'Sanctified' by God and superior to others. Newt too, Sanctified, Sacramental relationship he has with Calista.
Tell me, do you agree with the President that the Gingrich marriage is a 'Sacramental Union' which was made by God and is superior in nature to any same sex relationship? Yes or no?

[mmonk]

48. Then that means any liberal who has an issue with Obama's

positions or policies is someone without any merit as to their position? Just curious on why these threads continue. I already know the answer. Just wanted yours.

[jupiterintaurus]

49. 99.9% of polls probably a bunch of blarney...

Just in...:eyes:

[Skidmore]

50. And the rest hang out on GD.

[eternal being]

53. You say that like it's a bad thing...

[Modern_Matthew]

52. 81% of liberals are not socialists...a label I'm PROUD to have. nt

[hulka38]

54. Lotta heads need to be extracted.