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Big Orange Jeff Donating Member (136 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:28 PM
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Has anyone else noticed that right-wingers have stopped referring to the US as a democracy?
They are stressing the fact that our government is a "representative republic". I'm sure it has something to do with the names of the two major parties, and so they can say that the Republican Party is the one to which the founding fathers would belong.

I just find it fascinating that they're so caught up in words instead of real problems.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:34 PM
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1. That's really not new
I think it makes them feel smart to throw that around. Whatever. It doesn't change anything.
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:35 PM
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2. I think the reason they use representative republic
is that they don't believe in "one man, one vote." They believe in voter IDs, literacy tests, etc. I actually had to take a literacy test when I registered to vote in Alabama; I passed only because I was white. A friends' mother said that in Tennessee, the testers put a W at the top of tests taken by whites. In my case, my paper was marked while I was present. I'm ashamed to say I couldn't answer most of the questions; I doubt many people, white or black, could have done so.
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Brigid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:46 PM
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9. I didn't know they were so blatant about it.
They actually put a "W" on your test right in front of you? What was on the test?
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 05:46 PM
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14. when was this?
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:37 PM
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3. It is always about words with them socialism, communism, social
engineering,liberal, class war fare, abortion, healthcare, you name it they have a word for it even if they don't know the meaning of the word. The reason they like the word republic is it is a part of republican which is why they hate the word democracy, they misinterpret the world as Democratic or Democrat.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:39 PM
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4. They have proven adept at rebranding words... n/t
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LiberalAndProud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:41 PM
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5. Recycled Limbaugh.
It's literally been years since I listened, but there he is right in the middle of all the talking points. I heard it on the radio. It must be true.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:44 PM
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6. They know they're running a con job - words are their tools of manipulation.
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:45 PM
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7. They are technically correct. Ask them who is represented.
The representatives are supposed to vote the interests of the (originally white, male, propertied) people.

Now they administer the wishes of a corporate ruling class. Kind of like the founders wanted. :shrug:

--imm
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:46 PM
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8. Well, on that point I have to agree with them. Big business owns the political process, not us.
I still think of it as a democracy because that is what it is founded upon, but at present it does NOT operate that way. The optimist in me believes that one day it will again.

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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 04:48 PM
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10. This country has and is facing so many problems and this is the best the
republicans can do ... they are a disease.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 05:07 PM
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11. Yes. It's a Republic. It is a Republic, and the subtlety helps them
confuse people. It's not about the numbers. It's about the districting. Control the districts and you can win elections, state by state. They have figured out how to beat the large Democratic urban areas.

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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 05:09 PM
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12. Their preoccupation with "words" is because they are intensely
interested in manipulating society largely by the use of language. And, it's working.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 05:39 PM
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13. They hate the idea of democracy. They don't WANT everybody to have a vote.
They want a return to the good old days of ONE HOUSEHOLD, ONE VOTE.

Anybody who says we are not a democracy is telling you in no uncertain terms that they don't want women or non-property owners to have a vote.
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ProdigalJunkMail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-18-11 05:48 PM
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15. because we aren't a democracy? maybe that's why?
we ARE a representative republic. a pure democracy is a very dangerous thing...

sP
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