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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 05:03 PM
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Wow.....not ALL climate change deniers are pigheaded
Until a few months ago, you'd be hard-pressed to find a more classic climate skeptic than D.R. Tucker. A conservative author and radio talk show host, he didn't buy the notion that greenhouse-gas emissions were causing temperatures to rise. He was pretty sure global warming was a hoax perpetrated by Al Gore and a cadre of liberal, grant-hungry scientists. Then Tucker did what partisan pundits and climate skeptics rarely do: He changed his mind.

"I was defeated by facts," Tucker announced on FrumForum, the popular conservative blog. In an April 18 post, "Confessions of a Climate Convert," Tucker told readers how he came to question the ideologies of the climate debate, examine the science, and conclude that global warming was, in fact, very real. Tucker's post sent a giddy ripple through green circles and stoked the ire of his libertarian colleagues.

This sort of thing doesn't happen often. Or at least, it doesn't seem to. Only 48 percent of Americans believe that global warming is at least in part "a result of human activities," according to a 2010 Gallup poll, down from 60 percent in 2007 and 2008.

Anthony Leiserowitz, director of the Yale Project on Climate Change Communication, attributes this decline to five factors: The economic collapse, a severe decrease in media coverage, weather events like "Snowmaggedon," the efforts of the "denial industry" (the network of industry-funded think tanks and political advocacy groups that push skeptic views), and the "ClimateGate" debacle.

http://www.slate.com/id/2293607/

Defeated by facts: What a concept! :wow:
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 05:21 PM
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1. "Defeated by facts" (AKA LEARNING!)
Maybe there's hope for (at least some) Republicans after all............:shrug:
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 05:31 PM
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2. I viewed Snowmaggedon as evidence of global warming, not against it.
Kicked and recommended, good for Tucker keeping an open mind.:thumbsup:

Thanks for the thread, Keith Bee.
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 05:49 PM
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3. No prob
And I agree with you on "Snowmageddon:" Anyone who reads the history of the issue knows such events are 100% consistent with GW.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 05:52 PM
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4. I'm with you. One of the biggest hurdles we have
is how it was always called "global warming" (which it is) and we can't get that out of the denier's minds. Changing the name to "climate change" is much more honest. Warming will create climate changes, in all sorts of ways.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 05:59 PM
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5. The way I see it global warming is the actual disease and climate changes are the symptoms.
I believe we should elevate the people's awareness, I didn't on this thread but most of the time I combine the two referring to it as global warming climate change.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 06:10 PM
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6. Stick with climate change. If it is used enough, the people will
understand better when there is a snow storm or colder than normal winter. Yes, educating is important, but there are just too many people who refuse to be educated. Use the strategy that works by using terms that work.

Yes, you are right, global warming is the disease. But being right doesn't always trump being able to get others to understand.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 06:23 PM
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8. You may have a good point there, Curmudgeoness.


Yes, you are right, global warming is the disease. But being right doesn't always trump being able to get others to understand.



:thumbsup:
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-14-11 06:13 PM
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7. I've got a friend...
...guy was complaining about how much the weather has changed in his neck of the woods, and I said something about global climate change.

He went into Rant #27: "Global Climate Change is all a hoax to make more money for Al Gore". :nuke:

I finally told him that he should listen to himself; he'd been bitching about the change in the climate (operative words here being "climate" and "change" :eyes:) for about 10 minutes nonstop...then he turns right around and claims it's a hoax?

:wtf:

His problem (aside from being a Log Cabin Republican- he doesn't have an easy life, but a lot of that is his own doing) is that he dislikes the messenger so much that he is unable to pay attention to the message.

Some people...:shrug:
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Keith Bee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-15-11 01:57 AM
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9. We all know someone like that
"Eh, how, how can it be warming when we still get snow in February?"
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