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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:47 PM Original message |
I just got back from a business trip and had to go through Security 3 times and I want to say |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
1. I travel frequently and have had the same experience as... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. They were scanning everyone at Spokane this morning. Did I mention the |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. TSA agents are down right nice unlike |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. Philly? What finger did he use to point? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
2. k&r, glad your TSA experiences were ok. |
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CelticThunder (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. How nice that they are polite while they are treating you like a criminal. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Going through a security checkpoint is not.... |
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Supply Side Jesus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. That is not being treated like a criminal |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
11. Hmmm.... are you saying that overweight white women of a certain |
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cliffordu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. Fascist societies are unbearably polite societies. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:23 AM Response to Reply #3 |
75. Give me a break. I would rather face a patdown than have to fight for my life at 35,000 feet. nt |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-11 08:53 AM Response to Reply #75 |
120. How often have you had to fight for your life |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-11 04:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
124. How does your being subjected to a |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-11 04:47 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Two questions... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 08:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
116. +1000% -- exactly!! |
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Drale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
4. You mean you didn't get raped over and over by horrible monsters just out of prison? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 10:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I know... |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. No, genuflecting to authority is what is really ridiculous. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:27 AM Response to Reply #15 |
78. Living in a society requires that we not do whatever we want to do. |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 06:44 PM Response to Reply #78 |
105. We decried the security-state of the Soviets, but here we are. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:15 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. LOL! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:24 PM Response to Reply #108 |
117. Deleted message |
SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:57 PM Response to Reply #117 |
118. "Creeping authoritatarion (sic) mindset" |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:44 AM Original message |
why SDuderstadt, mad cap. where you going with that suitcase and boarding pass? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
88. Tombstone, AZ... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Tombstone? very cosmipolitan. i will not be pawed at, thank you very much. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 01:14 PM Response to Reply #91 |
92. Why, dionysus! |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:00 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. You mean the horrible monster who came over to the bench to pick up |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
12. Millions of people own guns too - and only a very few use them to shoot others |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. at least not on DU. eom |
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Frances (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. My experience has been the same as yours |
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Riftaxe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. It is entireably possible to appreciate the hard job the |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
19. I've also been impressed with the TSA employees I've dealth with...I appreciate security |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:44 PM Response to Reply #19 |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
82. During the early days of the TSA, when they were taking massive heat |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
21. You didn't mention what type of security. Scanner, or pat down. nt |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #21 |
34. because those are not a problem for her, and she accepts the invasions she can say |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #21 |
96. Scanner . I thought about requesting a pat down just out of residual |
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elleng (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-13-11 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
22. Same experience here, in a recent international trip. |
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Arctic Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
23. The walmart greeters of fascism. |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #23 |
132. Comparing TSA employees to Walmart Greeters is |
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PotatoChip (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
24. And nobody touched your junk? |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 06:27 AM Response to Original message |
25. Thank you for your inspirational story. Why have you missed the point? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:48 PM Response to Reply #25 |
104. +1 n/t |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
121. +2 |
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woo me with science (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-11 09:04 AM Response to Reply #25 |
122. Excellent post. nt |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
26. I'm certain most TSA employees are nice enough people |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 08:57 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. You could always design a better... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:27 AM Response to Reply #32 |
35. The point WAS that better ones were available yet were ignored. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:34 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. "Can't wait to see your justification for TSA ineptitude" |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #36 |
37. Ohhhh, so "Can't wait to see your design" wasn't? What high principles you have! |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. You don't see the difference between... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:51 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. Actually, both are snarky comments. Only one of us got indignant though. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. How does "can't wait to see your design"... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. On the off chance you're being serious here, I will be too. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. "yet the TSA does not want their people wearing radiation badges for some reason" |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. You REALLY don't want to discuss that WP story, do you? |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:22 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. "secrecy in an area where openness is a plus" |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:27 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. In general, the best security systems do not depend on secrets so openness implies good design. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:29 AM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Please prove that n/t |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. Why don't you prove the opposite. You can't and here is the example. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #54 |
60. It's YOUR claim, dude... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:09 AM Response to Reply #60 |
61. You can't prove the opposite. You're good at weaving. So what about the article. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I don't HAVE to prove the opposite... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #64 |
66. So define your standard of "proof" before I start. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. Nevermind... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:18 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Deleted message |
SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Apparently the word "nevermind"... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:24 AM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Yes. Much like the article apparently confuses you. Look, I'm just wasting time between laundry |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Example 2. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:58 AM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Define proof. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
67. Nevermind n/t |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:59 AM Response to Reply #50 |
58. Furthermore, you STILL didn't discuss the article. :) This is getting fun! |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:52 AM Response to Reply #47 |
56. I know I WEAR a badge because the govt regulations say it's for my safety. Why then not TSA? nt |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. Since you don't identify WHERE you work... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Bummer for you. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:15 AM Response to Reply #63 |
69. And for any reader... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #69 |
77. My actual identity? Less important than the OSHA regs I reference. |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Show me where I asked your identity... |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:31 AM Response to Reply #79 |
81. Where I work is less important than the OSHA regs themselves. Unless you're TSA of course. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Last worditis? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 01:31 PM Response to Reply #93 |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:33 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. last worditis. eom |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #62 |
65. But let me toss you a bone. |
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Pholus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:19 AM Response to Reply #36 |
72. All that wasted thread because you didn't want to answer one question. Amusing. nt. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:25 AM Response to Original message |
27. Coming thru customs on my way back to the U.S. at JFK last month, |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 08:07 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. The screening leaving Mexico was much more thorough. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
51. maybe a snowboard boot bomb? |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
100. Who was doing the screening - Mexican security or TSA? |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #27 |
83. The agent was right and you were wrong. Any international traveler |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 01:08 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. Oh, the agent was right but wasn't interested in searching it, just in knowing what it was. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #27 |
99. Actually - he had a point. It's like being at a traffic stop - you |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:38 PM Response to Reply #99 |
112. I was negligent in not packing the little box of macaroons in my checked bag. |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:33 AM Response to Original message |
28. I fly almost every week of the year for business |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
30. That pretty much describes by last 10 flights. |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
31. The problem with American has NEVER been how we treat business men. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
86. Oh oh. The class warfare bomb. Anyone making more than $80,000 per |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
101. I travel on business, but I travel in blue jeans and a polo shirt, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
33. well see, as i read first subthread, you ACCEPT the porn scans and groping. some peole feel it is |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:10 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. Our democratic president could stop it today if he wanted to. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:21 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. they are in that there are those that walk it with less than integrity which is what happens to some |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
40. My personal experience is that is depends on the airport or the people working at the moment you go |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:09 AM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Right, it is very airport dependent |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
102. Wild ass guess here - there are a lot of people in wheel chairs |
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UTUSN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
43. As an *in*frequent consumer, I say it's not the intrusion but rather the abuse of power |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:08 AM Response to Original message |
44. These people are low-wage workers earning a living. We shouldn't blame them |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #44 |
128. What's wrong with TSA is in your post: "Low-wage workers" |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 10:59 AM Response to Original message |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:19 AM Response to Original message |
71. You were in one of the states that is planning on banning |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
73. I never have problems with airport screening when I travel. I was picked |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
80. I'd expect the travesties to be a small percentage. But, as with teachers and under-age sex stories, |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
84. The TSA employees are morons. |
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bluestate10 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:53 AM Response to Reply #84 |
87. You had a one way ticket. What do you expect them to do? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 12:06 PM Response to Reply #87 |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:31 AM Response to Reply #84 |
126. It's pathetic that the US entrusts airport security to |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #84 |
127. Governor Kasich... |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
85. Our last trip to LaGuardia hubby was felt up 3 times--wanted to comment he was Major, USAF, retired |
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blueamy66 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-11 08:52 AM Response to Reply #85 |
119. Amen. |
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Marblehead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
95. Ben Franklin said |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:37 PM Response to Reply #95 |
98. They didn't have terrorists trying to... |
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whatchamacallit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 06:50 PM Response to Reply #98 |
106. Police State security is awesome, Chomsky is a moron... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 06:55 PM Response to Reply #106 |
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Zax2me (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 08:05 PM Response to Reply #98 |
115. Someone didn't tell good ole Ben about Islamic terrorists |
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Gravel Democrat (598 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-15-11 09:12 AM Response to Reply #98 |
123. The Revolutionary war was a walk in the park |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:39 AM Response to Reply #98 |
129. Or twinkies... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:32 PM Response to Reply #95 |
111. Does that mean no security checks for air travel? |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
103. no surprise there |
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Philippine expat (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
109. I travel frequently |
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LibDemAlways (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
110. Last TSA badge-wearer I had the misfortune of coming into |
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SDuderstadt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:42 PM Response to Reply #110 |
113. Omigod! Really? |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-14-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
114. The last time I went through security (at SFO), one of the TSA agents was drawing a map |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
130. I've begun using the train and buses more often. |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-16-11 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
131. i flew last thanksgiving when all folks were up in the air.... |
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