One reason teabaggers hate the new driver's licences.

[MineralMan]

Child support. A lot of people leave a state to avoid paying child support. It's more common than most people think. The new driver's licences will have enough information to track down deadbeat parents across state lines. That's a large part of the reason many teabagger types oppose such modern IDs. What they'll do when it's universal is simply drive without a licence. They're that committed to avoiding paying for the support of their own children.

Yet another reason why they fail.

[Curmudgeoness]

1. I admit it, I have no idea what you are talking about.

I have missed news of changes in driver's licenses. What's up?

[MineralMan]

12. Well, the idea is that you have to prove your identity, supply your

SS#, and stuff like that for the driver's licence. That allows cross-checking between states. Catches all sorts of people who are trying not to be found out.

Deadbeat parents, especially, along with people with warrants and the like.

[Curmudgeoness]

17. Are we talking about the national ID here?

This would replace state driver's licenses? If this is what we are discussing, the Freepers are so against it because they just do not trust government, period. But they really should be for it from their other dreams---like stripping unauthorized immigrants of any way of obtaining a driver's license. I can't figure them out.

[Brickbat]

2. Child support is one of the reasons many men in the trades are happy to stay as "independent

contractors" instead of organizing their "employers." Mr. Brickbat ran into this a lot when he was an organizer.

[AC_Mem]

5. Exactly.

One of my grandchildren's fathers has done this for years. We know for a fact that he is making money under the table and he actually went to court, showed his end of year statement for 10k and got his child support lowered to $98/month!!! And he is over 20K in arrears! Meanwhile he drives a 10k truck in his daddy's name, posts facebook pics of his vacations with girlfriends, etc.

It is disgusting, because my daughter works hard to give the kids a good life, but needs to live with me because she can't afford to live on her own. I have been the main support for my grandchildren for years because the fathers do not feel they need to pay support.

It is infuriating, frankly.

Annette

[MineralMan]

10. Yup. I've always refused to pay cash to workers, just for that

reason. Well, that, and the fact that I could get in trouble for it, too. If you work for me, you fill out the paperwork, and you get a check, with deductions already taken out. You don't like that? Look for a different job.

[Drale]

3. I betting they are the same people who

are always looking over their shoulders because they truly believe the "gobment" is going to steal all their stuff and give it to gay back muslims who've had abortions and are on welfare.

[MineralMan]

7. Yup, that too. They don't like the guvmint knowing their business,

because they have stuff they're trying to hide.

[Modern_Matthew]

4. Who says it's just teabaggers that oppose a National ID card? nt

[MineralMan]

8. Most of the people I encounter who oppose any smart

ID are teabaggers. It's endemic with them. There may be others, I suppose. For me, I don't mind. I'm not hiding anything. Frankly I'd like a single, universal ID that served as the only ID I needed. And I'll supply my birth certificate, fingerprints, iris print, retina print and any other information they need for it. I'm tired of dealing with expiring IDs. I'm who I am. I meet my obligations. I don't mind who knows who I am.

For others, I suppose there are reasons for opposition. I just don't have any of them.

[ileus]

6. You really think deadbeat parents are Teabaggers? most are just bums to begin with

[Zax2me]

9. Teabaggers lead as child support deserters?

My cousin and her closest friend fight to get payments, rare, if any.
And their husbands were certainly not teabaggers.
Bums, but not teabaggers.

[MineralMan]

11. I guess I haven't heard from the just plain bums.

I've sure heard from some teabaggers, though, who fit my description. I don't see bums online all that much, I guess. Bums, teabaggers...hard to tell the difference, really.

[emilyg]

25. My ex son-in-law is not

a teabagger - just a bum.

[cherokeeprogressive]

13. Fuck Bush!

[MineralMan]

15. That too!

In spades.

[Hamlette]

14. how would ID make it harder to avoid child support

with the new hire registry and the national wage data base (which goes to the child support agency) you can't work (at a place that reports wages OR income as an independent contractor) without getting caught if you're a dead beat dad. It's not that we can't find them, its that we can't prove income. I don't see the relationship.

They don't like the national ID because it is being proposed by dems. Same as single payer, cap and trade, and a million other things the GOP supported before the dems proposed it.

[MineralMan]

16. It would make it a lot harder for the deadbeats who are working

under the table. If they have the driver's licence, they're in the database. That's all.

[Hamlette]

23. the;y are in the data base, and in most case we know where they are

and that they are working but we can't prove it.

[EC]

18. Well, how on earth

are they going to vote then?:evilgrin:

[demosincebirth]

19. that's only your opinion.

[csziggy]

20. Here's another reason - they have to show a birth certificate

I bet many of them will have to order new ones from their state or county and will get them printed on the same "Certificate of Live Birth" form that Obama's original released birth certificate was on.

When I had to renew last year, I ordered a new copy because I was not sure where my old one was. The form was identical to Obama's. This is in Florida, one of the Birther hot beds.

I've been expecting to hear that they are screaming at the state and counties about this "short form" being the only one available.

[Bluenorthwest]

21. Got any sort of support for the idea that dead beats are prone to

be active Baggers? Some wild leaps of logic. Just say you like Big ID.

[pintobean]

24. Maybe he's testing a theory.

Trashing baggers gets recs. Facts and logic are irrelevant.

[mwooldri]

22. but... but... wouldn't they need the drivers license to VOTE?

With all the voter ID stuff that certain elements of the "tea party" support. No drivers license, no voting rights.

Gun. Foot. Aim gun @ foot. Pull trigger.