Could you support an anti-choice Democrat for president?

[Renew Deal]

Poll question: Could you support an anti-choice Democrat for president?

I ask because Gov. Gary Johnson is a pro-choice republican running for president.

[AlabamaLibrul]

1. No. And I would point anyone who is an "anti-choice Democrat" to the party's 2008 platform

http://www.scribd.com/doc/5580817/2008-Democratic-Party-Platform-Renewing-Americas-Promise

The Democratic Party strongly and unequivocally supports Roe v. Wade and a woman’s right
to choose a safe and legal abortion, regardless of ability to pay, and we oppose any and all
efforts to weaken or undermine that right.

This was approved by the 2008 Democratic National Convention. If you have a problem with it, you can seek out a party more accommodating to your ideas.

[Parker CA]

2. Absolutely not.

[blondeatlast]

3. Deal breaker. No. nt

[Ineeda]

4. Invariably, the first thing I look at

for governor, senator, representative, and president is their position on choice. It's a deal breaker for me, so no, never.

[Renew Deal]

12. Really? Even representative where they can do little on abortion?

What about locally?

[AlabamaLibrul]

15. Tell that to Bart Stupak nt

[Renew Deal]

16. That's a good point.

[Ineeda]

18. Not local, like mayor or city council.

They have no power over that kind of policy and, in my city, those are 'non-partisan' positions. But yes, really. It's always the very first thing I check for anyone with the ability to influence policy.

[Sky Masterson]

5. Hell no!

Deal breaker.

[H2O Man]

6. Nope.

[bluestateguy]

7. Is Bob Casey or Joe Manchin running in 2016?

About one quarter of Democrats are pro-life, which would be enough of a base to build a primary campaign upon, if all the pro-choice Democrats split the primary votes.

It could happen.

[Buzz Clik]

8. No way in hell. I would work to make sure that an anti-choice candidate didn't escape the primaries.

Unreal.

Johnson won't escape the primaries, either.

[Renew Deal]

14. I agree that he won't.

I think there is a bit of redundancy to these guys.

[Mojambo]

9. That's a dealbreaker for me. n/t

[leftstreet]

10. Would the candidate have a WPA Jobs Program and Single Payer healthcare?

Or just another ruling class minion, or what?

[Autumn]

11. Never. That line can not be crossed. n/t

[Nye Bevan]

13. Yes. Just like I can (and did, in 2008) support an anti-gay marriage Democrat for President.

I wouldn't like it but it's not a "deal-breaker". Because the repuke candidate will be worse.

[WillyT]

17. Nope...

No way.

:kick:

[gkhouston]

19. I don't vote for oxymorons. Or morons. n/t

[LadyHawkAZ]

20. No. It's too indicative of their general attitude

It says they are willing to view a certain class of people (women) as not quite human enough to deserve rights. A person who does not view a woman as quite human enough for rights during the nine months she is pregnant is less likely to view her as quite human enough for other rights, and it makes me worry about their concern for human rights in general. Deal-breaker.

[ProSense]

21. "I ask because Gov. Gary Johnson is a pro-choice republican running for president."

What does Johnson mean by "pro-choice"?

His site states: "Life is precious and must be protected. A woman should be allowed to make her own decisions during pregnancy until the point of viability of a fetus."

He says he's pro choice, but he supports defunding for Planned Parenthood and overturning Roe v. Wade.

Gary Johnson is a RW nut who will say anything.


How would an anti-choice Democrat make it to the general election? Not saying it's impossible, but primaries are a big part of Presidential politics.

[Renew Deal]

23. He could have said that in the debate and didn't.

He acknowledged he was pro-choice. He said women should have the right to choose until "viability." That's more than everyone on stage.

[FLAprogressive]

22. Only if they supported single payer, ending the MIC, ending poverty, etc. (those don't exist though)

I could probably overlook the choice issue, at least they'd be practicing what they preached. "pro-life"

But no one like this exists....

[mitchtv]

24. Hell no

deal breaker

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[deaniac21]

26. Has to be strongly pro-abortion.

[dmallind]

27. 80 votes and nobody asked the only question that matters?

Against what alternative?

Without dramatic changes in either the Constitution or the American public only two people can become President - the Dem nominee and the Rep nominee.

Not voting for the better option is equivalent to supporting the worse option.

So unless we posit a Rep nominee who taken in toto, including not only their policies but likely cabinet/SCOTUS nominees and Congressional relationship, is going to advance my preferred positions better than the Dem nominee, then damn right I would vote for such a Democrat. I vote for Dem nominees antagonistic to my positions on religion, gun control, capital punishment, etc almost every time. I have no sacred cows other than picking the best option of those available.

[HopeHoops]

28. If it was either an anti-choice Democrat or a Republican, I'd go with the Democrat - good reason...

It doesn't really matter if he's anti-choice. Unless Congress actually does something or he takes the position beyond campaign rhetoric, nothing will change.

[WinkyDink]

29. Would not regard this person as a true Democrat (Cf. "Casey Sr., Robert").

[hayu_lol]

30. Would never, under any conditions, vote for an anti-choice...

candidate. NO.

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

31. F*ck no!