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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:45 PM
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I'd rather help out a problem child than kill it in its footsteps
Edited on Wed Dec-23-09 12:01 AM by zulchzulu
Face it.

As one who has been for a hybrid version of Single Payer that combines a little of the Japan model with the Canadian model and a tad of the British model while bridging the best parts of the German and Dutch model of universal health care, I knew that Single Payer right out of the box in the Obama administration was nearly if not completely impossible (and impassible) within the first year of the administration.

Why?

In case you haven't been paying attention for the last 240+ years historically in the United States, we have been cowtowing to the powers that be in legislation.

First, it was the slaveowners. The landowners... The peeps with the merch... the Bling Masters. They had it working just fine for a few centuries until the 1930s, when America had to face the obvious fact that the hard scrabble working folks had been the cogs in the wheel of the Big Machine. And they were being grinded into mush.

So where does it all go now that we have been trying to reform health care since a hundred and ten years ago in the midst of the Industrial Revolution, which really was the culmination of the misdeeds of the Robber Barons and their ruthless tactics?

We have finally reached a pinnacle.

Albeit, like any major change, there's the good stuff and the bad news.

We're at a point where you can see Single Payer health care in the horizon IF we don't kill what we may be getting soon in terms of reform. If you keep the problem child alive and have the ability to still make positive growth, then there is hope indeed. If you do otherwise, you'll have to wait many years before you get the chance to change the cycle of failure that some seem determined to make happen again.

We're at a point where health care insurance companies can't just cut people off due to pre-existing conditions. That in itself is worth having to jump through the hoop of fire, known as incremental change to those who know this would never come about in one easy attempt.

We live our lives dealing with circumstances or points of reality where nothing is ever "perfect", nothing is without flaws and nothing is without the possibility of making changes if you keep the possibility alive.

Imagine being faced with being in the middle of a desert and looking at a problem child in the rear view mirror. You've driven far and through the harshest of conditions. Do you let the problem child, who could learn how to be better, alone on the side of the road to perish? Or do you continue down that road and teach the problem child the way to a better existence over time?

This is essentially what we are facing with health care reform. Kill the bill and offer only a death sentence to millions more or actually try to change what would inevitably happen if you quit or were the Party of No.

Keep the bill alive and make it better. Make the bill a carcass and fully expect the vultures to enjoy the rejected prize.


On edit: UnRecDroids are simple-headed, clueless whiners who will never get their precious pony, no matter how hard they whimper while licking the masturbation-induced cysts on their soft little hands.

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pocoloco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:50 PM
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1. Insurance company stock?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:52 PM
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3. Hehehe!
Yeah, we should get rid of insurance agencies. Yeah, that and bad Garageband loops....

:crazy:

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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:51 PM
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2. Long term thinking is required for incremental change.
There's no way to get this done right the first time, but there's one certain way to make sure it never gets done... which is to stop anything less than perfect.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:57 PM
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5. Indeed!
Unlike the candy-assed, clueless UnRecDroids here on DU, you see that there is indeed a strategy to this.

Imagine these candy-assed, clueless UnRecDroids playing chess. They think it's checkers. I'd give them 5 moves before they would then try to tip the table and ask for their pony.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-22-09 11:52 PM
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4. In this case though, the problem child is Damien
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:03 AM
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6. Didn't go with Rhoda Penmark? eom
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:30 AM
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8. What was it she would say, ""What would you give me for a basket of kisses?"
:scared:



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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:34 AM
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9. She was mortal
Damien was a demonic beast with supernatural powers.

Just seemed most appropriate analogy. :evilgrin:
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:10 AM
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7. Please check this out: 45 million get Single Payer Vermont Health Care:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:36 AM
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10. Rosemary should of got an abortion. Now its too late
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silverweb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-23-09 12:52 AM
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11. Agreed.
K&R.

:kick:

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