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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:21 PM
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Ralph Nader's Plan to Primary Obama Hits a Granite Wall - won't make dealine in NH.
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Ralph Nader's Plan to Primary Obama Hits a Granite Wall
By David Weigel
| Posted Friday, Oct. 28, 2011, at 3:11 PM ET

Six weeks ago, word got out about a progressive project that could have Ralph Nader playing a familiar role: Electoral scold. He was the best-known member of a coalition to recruit five progressive candidates to run, as Democrats, against Barack Obama. At 4:30 p.m. today, the coalition was going to face its first deadline: qualifying to enter the New Hampshire primary.

Nader's group won't make the deadline.

" Bill Gardner switched the days on us," Nader says. "He threatened to change the primary date after Nevada moved up its caucuses, and in the process, he moved up the filing deadline. So he's pulled the rug out from under us -- you think it's late November, and all of a sudden it's October 28."

Nader is annoyed, and understandably so. "You ought to have one federal standard for every state's elections," he says. "Do you know why he moved the filing date, just because the primary moved?" (Actually I don't know.) "We were pulling something together quite nicely, but New Hampshire -- that's the big one, isn't it? Between the size of the state and the fact that the press is up there, it was a good place to make this statement."

Perhaps it wasn't meant to be. The project was announced at a particularly low ebb of progressive enthusiasm. Days later, the Occupy Wall Street really took off. Two prominent members of the primary challenge coalition, Cornel West and Chris Hedges (both professors at Princeton), have pretty much thrown themselves into Occupy, one sign that the progressive scene is more interested in grassroots protest than in an immediate challenge to Obama.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/10/28/ralph_nader_s_plan_to_primary_obama_hits_a_granite_wall.html
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:24 PM
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1. excuses excuses, Ralphie
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 02:25 PM by WI_DEM
but Obama did get an opponent in NH anyway, Darcy Richardson of Florida.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 03:35 PM
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49. Darcy is among the dozen or so no-names that always run in the NH primary. That is not an 'opponent'
it is a weird guy who wanted to spend $1000 to see his name on a ballot for President.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:24 PM
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2. "We were pulling something together quite nicely"...
:rofl:

How hard is it to file papers, Ralph?

Sid
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brooklynite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:06 PM
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41. Here are the burdensome requirements for filing in New Hampshire...
How to File: The filing period will be between the first Monday in November and the third Friday in November or during such other time period as the secretary of state shall announce. A declaration of candidacy must be filed in the New Hampshire Secretary of State’s Office along with a filing fee of $1,000.

...snip...

Filing by Petition if Indigent: Any person otherwise qualified to run for president, who is unable to pay the $1,000 filing fee by reason of indigence may, after proving such indigence, have his/her name placed on the presidential primary ballot by filing with the secretary of state 10 primary petitions from each county of the state signed by registered voters of the party, who are domiciled in New Hampshire, together with one written assent to candidacy pursuant to RSA 655:25.


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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 03:12 PM
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45. now Sid, it's not nice to make fun of a senile old.... vaht?...
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:24 PM
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3. Funny how it's always someone
else's fault when Nader fucks something up.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:24 PM
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4. Fuck Nader
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:25 PM
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5. Kicked, recommended, and as always, FUCK RALPH NADER.
What a sniveling little shit that man is, trying to blame Gardner for the fact that his little "primary challenge" has been delusional from the start. It's not like the deadline was a secret; it's been public knowledge for months.
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:39 PM
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6. For such a visionary iconoclastic firebrand he seems to assume that others...
are going to take care of all the little "trivial" details he overlooks.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:42 PM
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7. FUCK RALPH NADER.
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BklnDem75 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:46 PM
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8. How come we knew the deadline and not poor Ralph?
Shouldn't he be more in front of these things than a political forum?
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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 04:52 PM
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21. tee hee
poor ralphy.

why does he insist on wearing the clown shoes?
and the clown followers, the ones who really really beeeeleeeeeeved... wonder where they are now?

:rofl:
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 05:08 PM
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23. He needs to read DU a little more often lol
OTOH, from DU he may also have been mislead into thinking he had a flying pigs chance.
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 07:38 AM
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31. My first thought as well
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 02:50 PM
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9. That's too bad. Pro-corporate Obama definitely needs a challenger
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 02:51 PM by slay
to make him explain all his pro-corporate positions. I don't see how any decent person can clap about the rules being changed to keep someone from challenging Obama.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:36 PM
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12. Rules being changed!...
:rofl:

Sid
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:39 PM
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14. Poor Ralph...
Always the victim. :nopity:

If he had any dignity left, I would encourage him to save it.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:38 PM
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13. Obama already has a challenger...
It will be one of the sleazy teabagging republicans. You might not like it, but those are your choices. Pick one.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 04:51 PM
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20. there are other choices
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MjolnirTime Donating Member (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 07:58 PM
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25. no other real choices.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 09:43 PM
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27. it's not like brand a or brand b are real choices either
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 03:25 PM
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48. Whether you think they're "real" or not, someone will be in the White House
making VERY real decisions.

And some of us believe there IS a very real difference between the "brands" even if others do not.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:59 PM
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16. You're funny.
:rofl:
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great white snark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 04:07 PM
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18. What did you do to facilitate a primary challenge?
I mean other than spend your time on a forum anonymously repeating the same old stale talking points?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 04:10 PM
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 08:58 PM
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26. Your sig pic is absolutely hilarious
Love. It.
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Champion Jack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:08 PM
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10. wouldn't the GOP pay his fees this time?--- FUCK RALPH NADER.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:32 PM
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11. Shouldn't he had looked into this, if he was serious?
Didn't some poster come here like 2 weeks ago to let us know of the deadline?
How can someone think they could run the country,
when they can't to something basic like this? :shrug:
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 03:48 PM
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15. A royal FU by Ralphie. Good thing he, nor any of his sycophants, willl ever be president.
:kick:
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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 04:00 PM
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17. Nader is an ass. n/t.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 04:55 PM
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22. How much funding does he get from the Koch brothers?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 05:21 PM
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24. I think that may have been the problem. They've busted the budget over at NorquistDogLake.
Edited on Fri Oct-28-11 05:22 PM by Tarheel_Dem
I think even they know that Ralph's a joke. This endeavour was doomed from the start, because you're not going to get enough folks on the left who are willing to cast their lot with the likes of Ralph Nader & Cornel "I didn't get an engraved invitation to the inauguration, but my valet did" West's "organization".
:hi:
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-28-11 11:31 PM
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28. Ralph has become a caricature, a sad, pathetic joke ...and he doesn't get it....His 15 minutes is up
Time to rest on his laurels-his major achievements, like electing George Bush.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 08:43 AM
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32. Nader needs to run
Nader needs to run so that Michael Moore and people like him have a reason for living.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 12:53 PM
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34. Moore turned his back on Nader years ago.
But if it makes you feel better, go ahead and indulge in your smug delusions.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 02:07 PM
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38. Nader and Moore
I don't have any smug illusions. To tell you the truth Moore and Nader lost all relevance a long time ago. Their working together in 2000 did enough damage. Most people don't take Moore seriously any more nor do they take Nader seriously.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:14 PM
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39. Lots of people still take Moore seriously.
And you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise.
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libinnyandia Donating Member (526 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 05:54 PM
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40. Moore
Hopefully not enough to affect the election next year.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 01:25 AM
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 01:41 AM
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30. More power to you. CA will vote for the current POTUS. What's that saying....?
"wish in one hand, and shit in the other, and see which one fills up first"? That's how I feel about people, who may or may not be Democrats, advocating a primary challenge to the current sitting "Democratic" president.

After reading your post, to hear you speak of "vitriol" is the very definition of irony. Please look it up. :hi: "mean-spirited status quo apologists"? It's just too rich.
:rofl:
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 12:51 PM
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33. Ralph who?
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 06:13 PM
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35. My spirit is now torn in two...
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 08:57 PM
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36. Because Nader has so much else to do? Seriously, how would he miss this if he is a serious person?
Ugh, just thinking about him ruins my appetite.
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RFKHumphreyObama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-29-11 09:01 PM
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37. Awwww....poor Ralphie
May his slide into pathetic irrelevance continue
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 09:45 PM
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42. Guess ol' Ralph isn't as well-informed as Darcy Richardson.
:rofl:

:rofl:

:rofl:


I doubt anyone outside of FL has heard of the guy, but at least HE knew when the filing deadline was.
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mac56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-30-11 10:20 PM
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43. Nuck Fader
Ego driven twerp.
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Hart2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 06:58 AM
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44. Nader's plan was bad. Better to have one candidate who earns delegates. NT
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 03:13 PM
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46. one man... like Gary Hart!!!11
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-31-11 03:16 PM
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47. If Michelle Bachman can figure out how to file on time, so can Nader
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