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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 12:36 AM Original message |
Obama administration wanted to keep troops in Iraq |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 12:51 AM Response to Original message |
1. Lots of claims, but no references or substantiation. Nada. Nothing. |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
2. Oh give it up. They were talking about 3,000-5,000 trainers only if the Iraqis would agree |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:58 AM Response to Reply #2 |
26. +1 |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
3. Wrong. |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Is the Pentagon not part of the Obama administration? |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:08 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. You argued in your OP that ...... |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:11 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Yes at first he wanted to leave, but was convinced to keep troops there. |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Only problem is in you not seeing the difference between ... |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:20 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. What relevance does that have to the OP? |
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doublethink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
20. Your words ... |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:30 AM Response to Reply #20 |
23. As long as you acknowledge that he was convinced to stay |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:18 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Pres. Obama was "ambivalent on the issue" and "relunctantly sided with the military staff". |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
14. "sided with the military staff" |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. "reluctantly" John Bolton said Pres. Obama deliberately sabotaged talks to this end. |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. But he still allowed negotiations for troops to stay. |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:26 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Talks that he made sure went nowhere, according to John Bolton. |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. John Bolton isn't credible |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. I don't believe the article ... especially this part ... |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:14 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. The Guardian is full of it. It was reported last month that bases & equipment would go to Iraqis. |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:17 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. John Bolton says Obama decided before he became president |
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LittleBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Every news organization is reporting it- links inside |
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ClarkUSA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:23 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. They are not reporting your false narrative reflected in your original OP title before you edited it |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
17. It can't be they're trying to paint this as a failure... |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
37. But it's not just this article. It's several articles from different sources. n/t |
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BklnDem75 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
24. Obama didn't and that's why they're leaving |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 02:15 AM Response to Original message |
25. This has been going back and forth in the Iraqi parliament for months |
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Tx4obama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 03:19 AM Response to Original message |
27. The OP is BULLSHIT. The story that Obama was bringing Troops home by Dec 31 brokes several days ago |
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JoePhilly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
28. The effort to try to ensure that Obama gets no credit for anything good he does never stops. |
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JNinWB (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 09:42 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Wonderful ODS summary! |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 09:36 AM Response to Original message |
29. Did you expect any different responses? |
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PragmaticLiberal (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #29 |
33. I definitely expected your response. |
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Beacool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I aim to please. |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 09:38 AM Response to Original message |
30. Correct. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
32. U.S. pulls 700 troops from Iraq, denies report of mass withdrawal |
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MjolnirTime (218 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
34. We get it. You must find fault in all Obama does. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
36. Here are two more threads that pretty much allege the same thing. |
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