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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:17 PM
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Steve Leser (me) on RT - “Tea Party pushing US towards default”
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http://rt.com/news/tea-party-us-default/

The loss of America's triple-A credit score has sparked panic sell-offs on global markets. But Steven Leser, a blogger with the International Business Times and member of Democrats for Progress, believes that S&P have acted responsibly.

­“It is not a very popular position and I don’t like the after-effects of if, but let’s face it, Standard & Poor’s has one responsibility,” he said. “Their responsibility is to investors who rely on their ratings to determine what the risks are in any given institution."


“And here in the US we have a faction of the US government, specifically the Tea Party Republicans, who are willing to cause a default if they don’t get their ideological demands met," he continued. "And that being the case, S&P has to go back to their investors and say ‘listen, the United State is not quite as safe an investment as it was anymore, there might be a default because of these Tea Party Republicans.’”

Even China has called the way the US has been handling debt crisis 'highly irresponsible'. And Steven Leser believes that putting party interests first in such a serious situation was a very juvenile way for the Republicans to behave.

“One of the interesting things coming out of the whole debt-ceiling debate was most of the debate was actually happening within the Republican Party,” he said. “All of the question marks are within the Republican Party: who is really in charge there? Is some sort of order going to be re-established?"


“Are the folks who fund the Republican Party, who have a lot of holdings, who have a lot to lose in terms of the market and stocks if things go south, are they going to say ‘listen, if you let these folks hijack the discussion again, if you let them take us in the direction of a default, we are not going to give you any money in the 2012 elections.’”


Steven Leser believes the US economy as a whole is still strong and it is the “perception issue” which makes things look so bad.

“In terms of economic institutions, so much of it relies upon perception,” he said. “Even a rather healthy bank for instance, if all of a sudden the public loses confidence, if there’s an inaccurate report about a bank and the public decides to have a run on that bank, that bank will fail even if it is otherwise healthy.”


Steven Leser says that the crisis can be brought under control pretty quickly if all Republicans come with a cohesive plan instead of giving the perception that the government is willing to default.

“That is what is really needed here to restore order and I’m sort of looking to see if the more mainstream wing of the Republican Party starts trying to reassert itself going forward,” he said. “It will be interesting to see if they are going to do that though. Because I think that the Republicans are hesitant to bring the Tea Party under control, because that’s where the energy is in the Republican Party.”

“I don’t know if the Republicans can do it,” he concluded. “But if they don’t, this economy is in for a really bumpy ride.”
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:26 PM
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1. Interesting question, will the repugs and big business drown their love child?
Have they realized their bundle of joy is Damian out to kill them both?
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:29 PM
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2. LOVE IT!
Where would they drown it? In grover norquist's bathtub?
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:36 PM
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3. I wouldn't stop them if they did.
I blame him for intruducing them to each other.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:41 PM
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4. I had a number of GOP acquaintances who are in the position I talked about come up to me
and express their anger about what the Tea Party folks did with the debt ceiling debate. There is an anger among the Wall Street Republican crowd (I dont know what else to call them). We have to see what happens with that. It will be interesting.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 06:55 PM
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5. Good. I hope their eyes were opened, and that they stay open.
These teabaggers are a bunch of nut cases; not to be trusted at the hands of any government.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:24 PM
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10. Can only hope at this point. Great post, sl
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:00 PM
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6. Don't entirely agree
S&P is supposed to base its analysis on crunched numbers. They are far afield from that, their analysis is based on their appraisal of the ethical frame of the decisionmakers.

Whether we agree with that ethical appraisal is a valid question, but I'm not sure it's a valid analysis for a rating agency.
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stevenleser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:12 PM
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8. I disagree in cases like this. They cannot close their eyes to the fact that the Tea Party
has as much as said in the past and for the future that under certain circumstances they will force a default.

If you are the ratings agency and you ignore that a borrower has said something like that in your determination of risk, you have failed in your due diligence, imho.
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:04 PM
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7. Go Steve! And go DFP!!
:headbang:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-11-11 07:23 PM
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9. A point never heard is that by blocking Dem policy the GOP has assured that Bush's economic policies
for this nation have continued the last 3 years. Bush policies that TeaPartiers and Independents claimed they were dead set against. Yet, here they are siding with the GOP blockade against any Dem fixes, effectively continuing Bush's economy.

Obama and Dems haven't done ANYTHING significant to change this nation's economic course the last 3 years because GOP won't LET them. Obama should make people realize that this nation is still living under Bush's economy because GOP is blocking change. I doubt he will, though, because his political team wants him to be seen as a leader who DID take the reins. Thus, the half-truths and never the full truth from the WH.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 07:38 AM
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11. kicked
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Sheepshank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:20 AM
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12. Damn you!!!
You made sense, your thoughts were concise and targeted. How in the world are and T.E.A. people going to gracefully back away from their stand now?

If the generally public/readership of RT hadn't put 2 and 2 together yet, your comments would have ensured that they now did just that.

T.E.A. base (I'm having a very hard time calling them Tea Party) will hate you and DFP will be getting a few unwarranted, completely biased, batshit, wing nut crazy visitor comments lol.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-12-11 09:30 AM
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13. I agree with a lot of what you say except one thing.
The Tea Party Republicans (one aspect I appreciate b/c they are not "real" Republicans but another faction) aren't a Republican problem. They are a parasite that is wrecking havoc with the US government and the people as well as the President through their Republican host. In effect, they are not just a Republican issue. But I agree with everything you've said.
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