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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:31 AM
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It's not Obama, it's spin
Drew Westen: What Happened to Obama?

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When Dr. King spoke of the great arc bending toward justice, he did not mean that we should wait for it to bend. He exhorted others to put their full weight behind it, and he gave his life speaking with a voice that cut through the blistering force of water cannons and the gnashing teeth of police dogs. He preached the gospel of nonviolence, but he knew that whether a bully hid behind a club or a poll tax, the only effective response was to face the bully down, and to make the bully show his true and repugnant face in public.

IN contrast, when faced with the greatest economic crisis, the greatest levels of economic inequality, and the greatest levels of corporate influence on politics since the Depression, Barack Obama stared into the eyes of history and chose to avert his gaze. Instead of indicting the people whose recklessness wrecked the economy, he put them in charge of it. He never explained that decision to the public — a failure in storytelling as extraordinary as the failure in judgment behind it. Had the president chosen to bend the arc of history, he would have told the public the story of the destruction wrought by the dismantling of the New Deal regulations that had protected them for more than half a century. He would have offered them a counternarrative of how to fix the problem other than the politics of appeasement, one that emphasized creating economic demand and consumer confidence by putting consumers back to work. He would have had to stare down those who had wrecked the economy, and he would have had to tolerate their hatred if not welcome it. But the arc of his temperament just didn’t bend that far.

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Like most Americans, at this point, I have no idea what Barack Obama — and by extension the party he leads — believes on virtually any issue. The president tells us he prefers a “balanced” approach to deficit reduction, one that weds “revenue enhancements” (a weak way of describing popular taxes on the rich and big corporations that are evading them) with “entitlement cuts” (an equally poor choice of words that implies that people who’ve worked their whole lives are looking for handouts). But the law he just signed includes only the cuts. This pattern of presenting inconsistent positions with no apparent recognition of their incoherence is another hallmark of this president’s storytelling. He announces in a speech on energy and climate change that we need to expand offshore oil drilling and coal production — two methods of obtaining fuels that contribute to the extreme weather Americans are now seeing. He supports a health care law that will use Medicaid to insure about 15 million more Americans and then endorses a budget plan that, through cuts to state budgets, will most likely decimate Medicaid and other essential programs for children, senior citizens and people who are vulnerable by virtue of disabilities or an economy that is getting weaker by the day. He gives a major speech on immigration reform after deporting a million immigrants in two years, breaking up families at a pace George W. Bush could never rival in all his years as president.

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Spin happened/keeps happening to Obama. Spin and the belief that Obama should be President, the legislative body and the progressive movement all rolled into one.

Westen claims that Obama failed to address inequality and attempts to dismantle the New Deal. He claims Obama is waiting for the arc of history to bend.

Utter make believe!

Obama slams GOP budget plan, calls for preserving Medicare and raising taxes on the rich

He Went There! Obama Attacks the 1%

It's easy to keep ignoring what the President says for a narrative spin.

Westen: "When Dr. King spoke of the great arc bending toward justice, he did not mean that we should wait for it to bend."

On health care, after 100 years of attempts, this President got it done.

Why Republicans are So Intent on Killing Health Care Reform

by Richard Kirsch

It’s not just about expanded care. It’s about proving our government can be a force for the common good.

Why are John Boehner, Eric Cantor and Mitch McConnell so intent on stopping health care reform from ever taking hold? For the same reason that Republicans and the corporate Right spent more than $200 million in the last year to demonize health care in swing Congressional districts. It wasn’t just about trying to stop the bill from becoming law or taking over Congress. It is because health reform, if it takes hold, will create a bond between the American people and government, just as Social Security and Medicare have done. Democrats, and all those who believe that government has a positive place in our lives, should remember how much is at stake as Republicans and corporate elites try to use their electoral victory to dismantle the new health care law.

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There’s nothing new here. Throughout American history, health care reform has been attacked as socialist. An editorial published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in December 1932, just after FDR’s election, claimed that proposals for compulsory insurance “were socialism and communism — inciting to revolution.” The PR firm that the American Medical Association hired to fight Truman’s push for national health insurance succeeded in popularizing a completely concocted quote that it attributed to Vladimir Lenin: “Socialized medicine is the keystone to the arch of the Socialist State.”

In 1961, Ronald Reagan made an LP recording for an AMA front group called Operation Coffeecup entitled “Ronald Reagan speaks out against SOCIALIZED MEDICINE,” in which the future President says that Medicare will be the foot in the door to a totalitarian takeover. Almost half a century later, Sarah Palin quoted Reagan’s words during her speech accepting the Republican nomination for Vice-President.

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The Right has always understood how high the American view of the role of government would be lifted if people came to rely on government for something as essential to a person’s well-being as health care. This year, the animus that the Right maintains toward the New Deal and Great Society programs and philosophy — Social Security, Medicare, the constitution allowing the federal public to regulate commerce — has become visible in the Tea Party movement. The last thing that the corporate and ideological Right want is for health care to be a new pillar added to the foundation of government social insurance.

more


"more seniors receiving free preventive care, discounts in the donut hole"

HHS announces free birth control for women in the U.S.

The bill signed into law by President Obama also established a path to get to single payer.

Those who believed it better for the health care bill to fail were definitely willing to wait for a better opportunity.

Westen: "Like most Americans, at this point, I have no idea what Barack Obama — and by extension the party he leads — believes on virtually any issue."

The notion that "most Americans" have no idea what the President and the Democratic Party stands for on "virtually any issue" is utter nonsense, especially given the fact that the Boehner and the teabaggers have taken a big hit over the last several months.

NYT editorial: Race to the Right

Here's a good example of how an MSM title obscures what the President says

There are points that the President emphasizes repeatedly, which Westen and others simply spin away.

Obama to Use New York Speech to Press for Financial Reform. (speech)

Obama Defends Government Action in Michigan Speech (speech)

President Obama sounds energy alert (Carnegie speech)

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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:43 AM
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2. This op is SPIN alright!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:49 AM
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3. Thanks, as usual, Pro.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:51 AM
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4. If I were president....
I would have twice weekly update bulletins at prime time TV (repeated a few times a day - just in case they missed it!)and a section in all national newspapers to tell people what has been done. I would hold more town hall meetings and use the VP more. Also I would get local politicians to hammer out the message.

Many people do not have a clue and do not keep up with current affairs. They don't know the contents of the Democratic Party's manifesto but they may be able to tell you the baseball results though?
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:33 PM
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25. If I were president ,
I would pay people to visit blogs and internet discussion boards, to post lists of my solid accomplishments all day long, all night long.
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:16 AM
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35. Why are you stuck on the idea that people are PAID?
You're here over and over saying the same thing.

Do you work for Jane Hamsher?
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-09-11 11:27 AM
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37. Dont you think its probable?
Actually, it would be a smart move, don't you think? It would be an inexpensive way to distribute the talking points to targeted politically active people.

But if I were running the operation, I would not keep on people who alienate potential lefty voters, by reasserting to lefties everyday, in dozens of ways,that they are NOT Obamas base.


Why are YOU stuck on Jane Hamsher?

Its been a rough week for Obama.

*His debt ceiling compromise is unpopular, across the board.

* Boehner claims victory ("We got 98% of what we wanted") and its hard to argue with him.

*USA gets a diminished rating (albeit, by a fairly dubious rating agency), but the media seem pretty stirred up by it. Its a major story. That dont look good!

* The stock market takes an abrupt and shocking DIVE.


and YOU think its one of a handful of internet blogger thats the source of Obama's problems?
Crazy shit, Girrl!

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Kind of Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:51 AM
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5. Well done, Prosense.
And thanks for the blue links!
KnR
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jaxx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 11:53 AM
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6. Thank you!
The truth doesn't sell well here, but don't ever stop bringing it to our attention.

K&R
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:01 PM
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7. Oh Goody! The List 2.....I was waiting for the sequel
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 12:28 PM by Armstead
I would also point out that what many of us (including the author of that piece) are so frustrated about is that he says very eloquent things that hit the nail on the head -- but the next day he has either forgotten them or says almost the opposite, and/or endorses policies and actions that are very different than his pretty words. NOT A MATTER OF COMPROMISE. The problem is complete lack of consistency -- and record that is often very different from his stated goals when he is trying to drum up support for himself.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:28 PM
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9. Intelligent
?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:29 PM
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10. Please re-read -- I added something to my snippy title
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:20 PM
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8. Where's the blue link to 'Obama picks center-right appointees to give advice on economy'?
Can't blame that one on the Republicans.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:32 PM
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12. Here
"blue link "

For Obama, a Record on Diversity but Delays on Judicial Confirmations

President Obama made history when he nominated Sonia Sotomayor, the first Hispanic justice on the Supreme Court. He did it again with his second nominee, Elena Kagan, raising the number of women on the nation’s highest court to three.

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So far, Mr. Obama has had 97 of his judicial nominees confirmed — compared with 322 for President George W. Bush and 372 for President Bill Clinton, who each served two terms. So far in Mr. Obama’s presidency, nearly half of the confirmed nominees are women, compared with 23 percent and 29 percent in the Bush and Clinton years.

Some 21 percent are black, compared with 7 percent under Mr. Bush and 16 percent under Mr. Clinton. And 11 percent are Hispanic, compared with 9 percent under Mr. Bush and 7 percent under Mr. Clinton. Of the nearly two dozen nominees awaiting a Senate confirmation vote, more than half are women, ethnic minorities or both.

Race is not the only measure of diversity under consideration by the administration — for example, J. Paul Oetken was the first openly gay man to be confirmed to the federal judiciary, in his case in the Southern District of New York. Mr. Obama has presented three other openly gay nominees to the Senate as well.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:44 PM
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14. I think Dawg was referring to this
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 12:50 PM by Armstead
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2011/01/obama-names-ges-immelt-head-of-new-jobs-council/1

President Obama, aiming to reinforce the message that the second half of his first term will be all about jobs, has just named General Electric Co. President Jeffrey Immelt to head a new White House Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

"We think GE has something to teach businesses all across America," Obama said.

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and maybe this, as context


http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/ge-ceo-jeffrey-immelt-the-head-of-obamas-jobs-council-is-moving-jobs-and-economic-infrastructure-to-china-at-a-blistering-pace

GE CEO Jeffrey Immelt, The Head Of Obama’s Jobs Council, Is Moving Jobs And Economic Infrastructure To China At A Blistering Pace

Jeffrey Immelt, the head of Barack Obama's highly touted "Jobs Council", is moving even more GE infrastructure to China. GE makes more medical-imaging machines than anyone else in the world, and now GE has announced that it "is moving the headquarters of its 115-year-old X-ray business to Beijing". Apparently, this is all part of a "plan to invest about $2 billion across China" over the next few years. But moving core pieces of its business overseas is nothing new for GE. Under Immelt, GE has shipped tens of thousands of good jobs out of the United States. Perhaps GE should change its slogan to "Imagination At Work (In China)". If the very people that have been entrusted with solving the unemployment crisis are shipping jobs out of the country, what hope is there that things are going to turn around any time soon?


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And a little more context of how determined GE is to rebuild America's productive capacity and economy and "teach American business"
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/21/business/worldbusiness/21iht-21genelec.5804780.html

General Electric to sell GE Plastics to Saudi company

BOSTON — General Electric Co. said on Monday it had agreed to sell its struggling GE Plastics business to Riyadh-based chemicals company Saudi Basic Industries Corp. (SABIC) in an $11.6 billion cash deal.

-- of note: SABIC Industries is primarily owned by the Saudi government.







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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:58 PM
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15. EPI:
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:44 PM
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17. Window dressing and obvious agreements
Of course EPI is going to agree with a lot in the stated focus on job creation plans. So do I and so does Immelt and so does Trumka.

Things like investments in "green technology" is a no-brainer, and one that GE happily jumps on board with as a business opportunity as another market they can corner.

But what matters is the more difficult issues that do not boil down to apple pie and motherhood.

What also matters is not whether someone like Trumka has "a seat at the table" but who is sitting at the head of the table, and who actually has more influence in the difficult things. Trumpka, for example, has been campaigning against the "free trade" deals that Obama is pushing through. So who is Obama listening to? His post-deb tceiling "jobs push" includes a focus on free trade agreements -- obviously a position more in alignment with OutSource GE than Trumpka and EPI.



http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/1005-trade/175799-labor-ramps-up-effort-to-stop-trade-deals

Labor ramps up effort to stop trade deals
By Vicki Needham - 08/07/11 12:55 PM ET

Organized labor and other opponents of three pending free-trade deals are ramping up grass-roots campaigns intended to pressure lawmakers to oppose the agreements.

While the accords with South Korea, Colombia and Panama have broad support from the White House and Republican leaders, opponents are using the August recess to try to build up opposition.

They argue the deals will harm an economy still struggling to create jobs amid a fragile economic recovery.

“We'll be talking to every legislator out there about the trade deals,” AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka said Friday.

The AFL-CIO will hold more than 450 events across the country this month where the deals will be discussed, and it has started a petition “urging politicians to bring the same urgency to the jobs crisis that they brought to the politically manufactured crisis over the deficit,” Trumka said.

The fight over the agreements is splitting President Obama from unions and other liberal groups at a time when there is already tension between the White House and the left over the debt-ceiling deal.

Supporters of the trade deals in the administration, Congress and the business community argue they will create jobs and help the economy recover.

M
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) pushed back Wednesday against all of the trade deals, telling MSNBC it is “debatable” whether the agreements will create jobs.

Trumka, citing figures from the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute, argued the largest of the three trade pacts, with South Korea, will cost the U.S. 159,000 jobs. The deal with Colombia will cost 54,000 jobs, he said.

Trumka and other labor leaders are particularly fired up over the deal with Colombia, where the union leader said three trade unionists were killed last week. The Obama administration negotiated a labor plan intended to improve Colombia’s protections for unions, but Trumka said “it's obvious to us that labor plan isn't sufficient."
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:52 PM
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19. "citing figures from the left-leaning Economic Policy Institute"
Senator Brown also cited the EPI. The fact is that fixing the trade deals has always been about the TAA and other issues that have been negotiated into the deals.

Anyone who expects the President to abandon trade deals is kidding themselves. The TAA and other issues need to be and are being addressed.

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:02 PM
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20. Tinkering around the edges of a disaster
Just take a moment and think of the complete lack of logic.

"We're going to pass a trade bill that will help the American economy and workers. So we have to have re-training and other assistance for all of those workers who are going to lose their jobs because of this."

Yeah great. How about a novel approach? Actually look at the core of the problem, and get rid of the false assumptions and the corrupt giveaways in it -- actually work for a reasonable set of trade policies that do not decimate the American economy and turn other underdeveloped countries into corporate colonies and their people into sweatshop serfs? And which allow their oligarchs working with our oligarchs to kick everyone else into a race to the bottom.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:34 PM
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27. Hmmm?
"How about a novel approach? Actually look at the core of the problem, and get rid of the false assumptions and the corrupt giveaways in it -- actually work for a reasonable set of trade policies that do not decimate the American economy "

Oooh, arm-chair governing by sound bite. What exactly is "a reasonable set of trade policies that do not decimate the American economy" and how do you know that isn't the President's goal?




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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:29 PM
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11. Too late. The "devastating", "blistering", "unpleasant truth" has been spoken
And the detractors are sucking it up.

But what will anyone actually DO about it?

After all, words don't matter anymore. Only ACTIONS matter?

Are they ready to walk their own walk, or just commiserate over pretty talk?
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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 12:36 PM
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13. What would you suggest? Aside from "keep republicans out"
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 12:36 PM by Armstead
Honestly. I want to know what ideas you have that would actually change this situation where so many believe their leaders are either ineffectual and/or actively working against what people believe would take the country in a better direction.

I will spare you some typing. Republicans are awful, and anything that will boot them out and prevent them from getting more seats and the WH is necessary.

What, beyond that, to address what many people believe Obama and the Democrats are either not doing or are doing wrong?

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:25 PM
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16. Yup,
accept it, or else!

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 01:44 PM
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18. Your approach in a nutshell
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:26 PM
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22. Yeah
links!

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Armstead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:30 PM
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24. One sided and without context...Or not being actually read beyonbd the headline
:)
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CakeGrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 04:21 AM
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36. "One sided and without context" - sounds exactly like
all the bleating over "caving" over letting Bush tax cuts expire in 2010.

The selectively ignorant keep repeating that the President 'extended the Bush tax cuts'.

Bullshit. People who are honest about it know full well what the GOP was holding at stake.

Maybe playing chicken and letting them follow through on their threat didn't matter to that crowd because it didn't personally affect THEM.

But to simply claim he extended the cuts without context is proof of being selectively ignorant of the situation...or perhaps never understanding what actually happened.

THAT'S "one-sided and without context".
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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:21 PM
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21. ...
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:28 PM
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23. Not sure
"What Kind Of Fool" are you?

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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:34 PM
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26. LOL
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 02:38 PM by woo me with science
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:37 PM
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28. Summary:
My question: "What Kind Of Fool" are you?

Your response: "Bill Hicks - Corporate Shills"

Thanks for making it clear.

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woo me with science Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:39 PM
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30. Just sharing a nice song with you,
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 02:40 PM by woo me with science
:rofl:



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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:07 PM
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32. So
"Just sharing a nice song with you"

...does this song define you? Why do you like it?

Is the song funny? Is that why you're laughing?

Was the song your answer to the question: "What Kind Of Fool" are you?





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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 02:39 PM
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29. Is there actually an Obama, or is it all spin?
Rahm was the baddie twisting arms on health care, while Pelosi was the one who really fought to get it through. What did Obama do? He certainly didn't come out with a PLAN, and he certainly didn't talk single-payer (as if he would) or public-option. At the end, when it was in jeopardy, he came forward, but that was a crisis move, he conspicuously distanced himself from the thick of the fight until then.

Geithner and Summers should never be anywhere near the cookie jar, yet there they are.

Was it really Hillary Clinton, Samantha Powers and Susan Rice who got us into Libya? It sure as hell wasn't Gates.

Thanks for the credit card legislation, but some usury laws might have been nice.

So many people are so ga-ga by him being "the coolest guy in the room", yet I keep going back to this quote from the introduction to "The Audacity of Hope" and cringe: "I serve as a blank screen, on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views." Those are not the words of an ideologue, those are the words of a maneuverer.
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 03:28 PM
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31. Blank screen
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 03:30 PM by Vanje
"I serve as a blank screen, on which people of vastly different political stripes project their own views."

Blank. Nothing there.



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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-07-11 06:56 PM
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33. What about the Dems that defend Obama, yet get berated
Edited on Sun Aug-07-11 06:59 PM by politicasista
by some other (not all :)) O supporters on Twitter and Facebook? :shrug:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-08-11 02:07 AM
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34. When it comes to spin
:yourock:
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