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Cali_Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 06:59 PM Original message |
Was it really a strategic move by Obama all along? |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
1. Yes. n/t |
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lamp_shade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yes. |
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tallahasseedem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
3. Man I don't know... |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
4. YES |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. Perhaps |
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cottonseed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
6. The freshman class of Republicans will not pass that bill. |
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Tennessee Gal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The freshman class of Republicans are a bunch of idiots. |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. and idiots... |
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jeff47 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. 50% of voters |
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graywarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
8. Indeed it was. |
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vaberella (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
9. He's done this before. Obama has supported many Republican bills--they've ALL failed. |
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davidpdx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
10. Put me in the not sure column |
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Liberal_Stalwart71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. That's what many of us have been trying to say all along. Larry O'Donnell did it best, though! n/t |
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sofa king (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. I think the objective is to move into secret deliberations. |
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woolldog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
13. I highly doubt it. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. I really doubt that the theory is true. |
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boxman15 (389 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:04 PM Response to Original message |
16. We'll find out soon enough. |
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Parker CA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. I think that was too big of a gamble. If the GOP had agreed, I think Obama would've signed on with |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:55 PM Response to Reply #17 |
26. Nope. Obama knew they wouldn't and couldn't agree, given the |
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OwnedByFerrets (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
18. Cutting SS and Medicare looks "reasonable"? Not in my world. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. Could be. But I think the metaphor I came up with last week still stands. This was like being in |
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Big Blue Marble (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 03:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
39. Good analogy |
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ShadowLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
20. If the economy suffers from the debt limit then everyone loses long term, short term doesn't matter |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:16 PM Response to Original message |
21. This disaster is the result of the president's obvious lack of a plan. |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. No. He had a plan and now he will get what he wants |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Obama will go down in history as one of the most skilled politicians |
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Proles (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:24 PM Response to Original message |
22. Who knows anymore? |
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quiller4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. Absolutely. |
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Arugula Latte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 09:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. I don't know. This is how I feel: |
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Rosco T. (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
28. Of course it was. n/m |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
29. No, because he WANTS these cuts |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
31. The proof of the pudding is in the pudding. So who knows? |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
32. No. Dem leadership had no fucking clue what his deal was |
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Qutzupalotl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
33. Yes, he read the House correctly. |
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Myrina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
34. Oh yes, he's been playing 47 dimensional origami haiku chess |
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xiamiam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jul-22-11 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
35. No, listen to DeFazio lay it out on the floor..nt |
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Hawkowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
36. Nonsense |
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Lugnut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 12:54 AM Response to Original message |
37. I think it is. |
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digidigido (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 03:22 AM Response to Original message |
38. The thing that scares me is the "left at the alter line" |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:31 AM Response to Original message |
40. I think the President was totally seriious about the deal he was offering.. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:37 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. exactly my opinion |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:51 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. seems he was always thinking of the optics in the aftermath should these negotiations fail. |
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Vattel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 04:58 AM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Lol. How can even Republicans take Boehner seriously? |
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DCBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 05:04 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. indeed.. he and Cantor are a real pair of losers. |
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scheming daemons (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 06:30 AM Response to Original message |
45. I've been telling you all this for weeks |
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musiclawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jul-23-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Potus is not stupid. |
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