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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 05:45 PM
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Obama Would Veto ‘Forever War’ Language in Defense Bill
Obama Would Veto ‘Forever War’ Language in Defense Bill
Susan Crabtree

The White House is threatening to veto the annual must-pass House Defense Authorization bill over language dramatically expanding the president's power to wage the war on terror indefinitely, among other provisions.

In addition, the administration for the first time, is threatening to veto the bill over language limiting his ability to transfer detainees overseas or try them in civilian court.

Now that Osama bin Laden is dead, House Republicans, led by Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon (R-CA), are attempting to update the 2001 Authorization for the Use of Military Force -- the legal underpinning of the war on terror -- so it doesn't phase out as the connection between existing terrorist groups and the September 11 attacks themselves becomes more and more tenuous over time.

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The new language jettisons references to September 11, and instead focuses on the authorization on "armed conflict with al-Qaeda, the Taliban and associated forces," though "associated forces" is not defined. It replaces the authority to target "organizations" and "persons" domestically with the power to target "all entities that continue to pose a threat to the United States and its citizens, both domestically and abroad."

Progressive Democrats and anti-war activists argue that the looser language will allow the President to initiate military action even more broadly, and without the consent of Congress -- effectively perpetuating the war indefinitely.

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http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/obama-would-veto-forever-war-language-in-defense-bill.php
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 06:08 PM
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1. There ya go. Like THAT!
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 06:30 PM
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2. How 'bout that? I thought he was down with the "MIC." n/t
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 07:06 PM
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3. if your'e going to perpetuate the police state, might as well have a forever war too nt
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 07:07 PM
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:04 PM
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6. Oh good lord...
Edited on Tue May-24-11 08:05 PM by jefferson_dem
That's such a stretch... Just admit it. You despise Obama and will never say you agree with anything he does as president.
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Vattel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 07:40 PM
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5. That's a positive sign.
I'm not sure anymore what his position is on whether he even needs Congressional authorization to take military action, but I'm glad he doesn't want the Congress to authorize perpetual war.
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Adam Notsmith Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 08:09 PM
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7. Wimp!
:sarcasm:
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 09:01 PM
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8. I am honestly surprised to read this after his indefinite detention speech. nt
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boppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-24-11 09:26 PM
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9. Hm. Makes sense.
"all entities that continue to pose a threat to the United States and its citizens, both domestically and abroad"... has waaaay too many possible interpretations.
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-25-11 12:15 PM
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10. Glad to hear it. n/t
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