Desmond Tutu endorses the Western air strikes on Libya

[dennis4868]

RT @BreakingNews: In an interview with the BBC, Nobel Peace Prize winner Desmond Tutu endorses the Western air strikes on Libya


http://bit.ly/iaLTjf

[wndycty]

1. Warmonger!

:sarcasm:

:kick:

[silver10]

17. Warmonger!

No sarcasm

[Meeker Morgan]

30. Warmonger. No sarcasm.

Just because he's a Jesus ventriloquist he gets a free pass, is that it?

[atreides1]

2. So what

If he endorsed jumping off a cliff...would you think that was a great thing also?

[Dennis Donovan]

5. Apparently, you don't know who Bishop Tutu is...

[Meeker Morgan]

31. I know who he is.

His past accomplishments do not excuse this.

[silver10]

33. +1

[dennis4868]

6. huh?

Obama wants Libyians to jump off a cliff? Don't get your point....

[silver10]

18. +1

And thank you for your service to our country.

[jefferson_dem]

29. I know you are but what am I?

[Dennis Donovan]

3. What a typical rightwing... wait... Tutu?

:crazy:

[silver10]

4. who cares - he encouraged his own people to conduct starving boycotts

I'm sure he ate though

[Dennis Donovan]

7. Got proof?

Post it. Don't chuck stuff out without proof...

[dennis4868]

8. remember...

we are on DU...facts went out the door after Obama won the election....

[Dennis Donovan]

10. I know, but I expect more from DUers...

[elleng]

54. So do I, but its been a particularly difficult, unpleasant day here.

[tabatha]

11. delete - misunderstood.

[dennis4868]

13. I can source to any BS....

website with an agenda as well...does not mean its a fact....

[tabatha]

16. I changed my post.

I thought you were the poster before. Sorry.

[krawhitham]

52. +9999999999999999999999

Truest post of the year

[silver10]

14. I honestly thought it was common knowledge...anyway not the point

What kind of man of the cloth supports war? No one I can admire.

[tabatha]

19. What man of the cloth supports genocide?

[silver10]

20. Genocide is all over the world - bombing all the people will not change that.

Saddam was a horrible dictator who also committed genocide. I wonder if 1 million dead Iraqis feel the same about our involvement in overthrowing him. I guess they are happy because they died in the chaos we created and not by Sadaam.

[tabatha]

22. They are not bombing people.

They have bombed anti-aircraft weaponry.

[silver10]

35. oh, because you know that for sure - because those missiles are so accurate?

Unless there are troops on the ground painting the targets, one little fraction off course and MANY innocent people will die.

BUT the war machine needs to go on and on, no matter how it gets repackaged and who they next hook with it.

[tabatha]

42. See

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x700675

Btw, the bombing is over - the anti-aircraft equipment is out.

It is now no-fly ONLY.

[silver10]

43. do we know the number of casualties?

[tabatha]

44. The rebels have not reported any causalties from the anti-aircraft strikes.

But they have reported the number of dead by Gaddafi's forces:

10:53pm

The death toll is higher than previously thought. Rebel spokesman Abdel Hafiz Ghoga told Al Jazeera Arabic:

Our dead and martyrs number more than 8,000 killed.


Hope that number makes you happy.

[Name removed]

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[tabatha]

25. What a load of nonsense.

[silver10]

36. Yes, I agree that a holy man of the cloth supporting war is utter nonsense

[tabatha]

40. I was reponding to this statement:

"he encouraged his own people to conduct starving boycotts"

[tabatha]

9. Nobel Peace Prize recipient.

I love that man (long before this outbreak).

[dennis4868]

12. me too...

but now that he agrees with Obama....he will be hated here and on many "lets hate Obama no matter what" liberal blogs...

[silver10]

21. Obama is appeasing his new right-wing base.

Didn't he promise to get us out of the fucking wars? Among other broken promises.

[tabatha]

23. It is not a war.

It is a no-fly zone which took effect when the anti-aircraft equipment was taken out.

[dennis4868]

27. good point....

and the liberals did not give President Clinton a hard time when he had his no fly zone in some countries....THIS IS ALL ABOUT BRINGING DOWN OBAMA....has nothing to do with the facts.

[silver10]

39. Clinton was awesome.

Obama met behind closed doors to negotiate with the repukes behind the dems back. We didn't get a budget, we didn't get the tax revenue from the elite wealthy who haven't been paying their fair share. Can you see shrub doing that? Obama has corporate stars in his eyes, he is soo dazzled. But the repukes will vote repuke - why not vote for the real thing if that is what you are? I thought O was a liberal progressive - I didn't get your joke about the not your daddy thing. I thought he was the president I voted for.

Now we will have a third war.

[Name removed]

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[dennis4868]

24. actually he has very few broken...

promises according to many non partisan organizations that look into these things....I will post sources later or tomorrow....By the way, Obama PROMISED to escalate the war in Afghanistan and to gradually end the war in Iraq...2 promises that he has followed through on. I know i know, you will disagree...you have to because it's all about Obama....People - you are not Obama's daddy....get over it.

[tabatha]

26. +1

[silver10]

38. I didn't realize he was a republican

[dionysus]

58. keep digging.

[vaberella]

15. Wow...more and more this is not looking like another Waterloo. n/t

[ClarkUSA]

28. That's two Nobel Peace Prize winners against Gadhafi's promise of a Rwandan-style genocide.

I am sure the Nobel Peace Prize Committee are in their corner, too.

[Meeker Morgan]

32. Nobel Peace Prize prize?

Henry Kissnger got one. Let's find out his opinion.

[Critters2]

34. +1 nt

[silver10]

41. +1

[ClarkUSA]

45. You go ahead. Remember, Nixon is being hailed on DU as a liberal these days.

[silver10]

48. Granted I haven't seen everything but Really?

Nixon is touted as a liberal on DU? No wonder all the pro-war supporters now on this site.

[ClarkUSA]

49. Really.

"pro-war supporters"? What war? See reply 23:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=433&topic_id=633917&mesg_id=633949

[Bodhi BloodWave]

50. well, there have been some posters who make comments along the lines of

"Well, Nixon would be more liberal then most democrats these days going by policy and such" in various incarnations and words

[silver10]

51. Understood in context, thanks

[Bodhi BloodWave]

53. Always happy to help n/t

[nemo137]

55. Really really.

Although, it's generally the same people who are against military action making the odious "Nixon was more liberal than Obama!" threads.

[bhikkhu]

46. Gadhafi has (and deserves) no friends

I think even his family is interested in little but the billions in oil revenue that he's socked away...

[PurityOfEssence]

56. Hey, so does Kissinger, and he's got a Nobel Peace Prize, too...

Kissinger has serious misgivings about being involved in any military campaign, though, and carefully parses his words as support of protecting civilian lives. He wants a specific definition of what the conclusion is to be, stating that this is only a part of a much bigger situation.

Good people and bad people are for it and good people and bad people are against; this should remind people that it's NOT a simple situation, and flatly denying that complexity is dangerous and generally a sign of insecure and bellicose egos that need to be acknowledged as morally correct.

[Unvanguard]

57. This is a good post

and I'm glad that I can't tell from reading it which side you are on.

:thumbsup: for some DU reasonableness.