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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:09 PM
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Obama And R2P
Obama And R2P

19 Mar 2011 10:47 pm

A reader writes:

Your depiction of 2008 Democratic politics and the Obama administration's divide on the question of intervention in Libya strikes me as misguided or, at the very least, incomplete. You note that, for those who supported now-President Obama in the presidential primaries, his consistent opposition to the Iraq war was a critical policy distinction from now-Secretary Clinton's initial support.

However, if one surveys President Obama's foreign policy advisers during the presidential campaign--that is, the types of ideas and ideological frameworks he surrounded himself with--it seems obvious that then-Senator Obama's foreign policy priorities did not necessitate a decline in the use of American military power, but rather a shift in the ways in which it is used.


The National Security Council advisers who supported the full spectrum of Libya operations earlier this week--Samantha Power, Susan Rice, and Gayle Smith--have been adamant and public supporters of the implementation of the third pillar of the "responsibility to protect" doctrine, which includes the use of military force, if necessary. All three maintained close relationships with then-Senator Obama, particularly as a result of his active engagement in the Darfur advocacy movement.

The actions of the Obama administration's foreign policy agencies--particularly the prioritization of mass atrocities prevention in the recent Quadrennial Development and Diplomacy Review and the creation of Rosa Brooks' Office for Rule of Law and International Humanitarian Policy at DoD--have indicated the Obama administration's interest in altering his administration's use of American power in the international sphere.

This new notion of American power's role in the world necessitates the multilateral application of military force, though, importantly, as a last resort. For observers of President Obama's actions, from his selection of foreign policy advisers to the institutional shifts that have occurred in the past 26 months, the prospective (and now real) use of military force to halt Qaddafi's mass targeting of Libya's civilian population should hardly as a surprise. If it does, those observers should pay more attention.


http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/03/a-reader-writes-your-depiction-of-2008-democratic-politics-and-the-obama-administrations-divide-on-the-question-of-interven.html
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:11 PM
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1. K&R
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:12 PM
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2. Hey I took the lesser of the Hawks in Hillary vs Obama.
Little did I know he would make her SOS and defeat that purpose.
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TomClash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:17 PM
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3. Interesting how this does not apply
to Bahrain or Palestine. I wonder why?
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Davis_X_Machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 12:31 PM
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4. Because Bahrain is not an oil state? n/t
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:17 PM
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5. I noticed this. It's one reason I'm skeptical.
I want to be optimistic. But as I read this again, I am beginning to see how not only do they pick and choose, but how in this case we went straight to force. It was almost evident from the very beginning news reports that something was more interesting to the forces that be, regarding Libya.

Darn it, I really want to be surprised. I have a feeling oil is what it's all about. I hope I'm wrong.
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snot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 02:24 PM
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6. Personally, I really value and trust DU'er Catherina's opinion on this:
see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4755058&mesg_id=4758086 ; and if you search, you may be able to find more.

She was the initial driving force in posting tweets here from Egypt, Libya, and elsewhere, and seems to have an in-depth knowledge of the region generally plus has a finger on the pulse of what people actually on the ground are experiencing and thinking.
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