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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:09 AM
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Reuters/Ipsos poll. Obama drops 10% amongst Independents.
Obama is going to need Independents is he is going to have a second term. 37% of Independents view Obama favorably, down from 47% a month ago. 64% of the country think America is on the wrong track.

If there is any relatively good news, Obama's overall approval rating stands at 49%, down only two points from last time.

Poll results here.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/09/us-obama-poll-idUSTRE7284SZ20110309
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:14 AM
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1. I'm one of them and it has nothing to do
with soaring gas prices.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:16 AM
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3. You've Voted GOP?
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:17 AM by otohara
can't understand why people who claim to be "independent" would let the rest of us choose who they'll be voting for.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:23 AM
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10. Do you also wonder why they poll Independents?
Therein lies the answer to your confusion.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:35 AM
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17. Because They're Apathetic and Easily Manipulated
and I'm not confused.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:15 AM
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2. Which Ever Way The Wind Blows
so goes the Independents

Independents are not at all independent, they are the most apathetic voters and not too smart when it comes to government, politicians.
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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:17 AM
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5. We're going to need them to win next year. guaranteed!!!
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:24 AM
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11. The ones I know are
well informed.
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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:39 AM
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18. Why Then
do they let the rest of us choose who they will be voting for, then complain they don't like either candidate.

I've heard the later many, many times while phone banking.

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 03:26 AM
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19. Really? I find that hard to believe...
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 03:26 AM by Drunken Irishman
I do not respect an independent voter. I think they're the dumbest group of voters out there. They're the same people who, two years ago, supported Pres. Obama and then, last November, decided they'd switch to the far-right and back a cluster of idiotic tea-party candidates.

Independent voters are generally voters too stupid to formulate an opinion. So they rely on superficial and vapid reasons to support whomever they think is the best candidate.

It's why we go from Clinton to Bush to Obama to...?

At least Republicans have their ideology and aren't as fickle as a teenage girl in a shopping mall.

In fact, I think that sums up independent voters to a tee!

"Oh My God! I LOVE THIS DRESSSSS!!!!!!! IT IS THE GREATEST THING EVAAAAAAR!!!!! I WANT!!!"

Two minutes later...

"Oh My God! THIS DRESS IS THE ONE I WANT! I'M POSITIVE MOM! GET ME THIS DRESS!"

A week later the dress sits at the bottom of the closet.

They're idiotic voters who should not be allowed to vote. No one can be undecided or indifferent or independent on anything.

If you're an independent, it means you're too stupid to grasp the issues or you're too stupid to care.

Seriously. Where do independents stand on the issues? Are they pro-choice? If they were, they certainly wouldn't be electing Republicans. Are they pro-environment? If they were, they certainly wouldn't be electing Republicans. Are they pro-worker? If they were, they certainly wouldn't be electing Republicans.

Yet they supported Bush in two elections and then turned around and supported Obama in 2008...only to turn around and support a reactionist Republican in 2012? They're idiots. Plain and simple. The dumbest voters out there.

Because if you're whoring yourself out for votes and not actually voting the issues, you're a tool. And that's exactly what they do. They don't vote the issues or they wouldn't be so erratic in their style. You can't vote for a Republican if you care about a set core of issues they spend a lifetime fighting against. You can't vote for a Democrat if you care about a set of core issues they spent a lifetime fighting against.

So they're openly admitting those issues aren't important to them. That's where they turn to pathetic reasons to vote for a candidate. In 2000, it was because Al Gore was a stiff and boring and Bush was the guy you could have a beer with. What will it be in 2012? Pres. Obama is just too elitist! We need a average 'merican as president!

They look at elections as nothing more than beauty pageants.

Pathetic.

/rant
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leftynyc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 05:25 AM
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20. That's not true
The ones I know are truly moderate (many were Rockefeller republicans before the religious right got hold of the pubs). Fiscal conservatives and social liberals. The vote candidates, not party.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:17 AM
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4. So Kewl!
I say...let's get rid of him!
He's too much damn trouble anyways!
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:26 AM
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12. According to Crooks and Liars the poll has a margin of error of 7
Which makes it a statistically invalid poll (+ or - 5 is the outer limit)

My favorite poll is still a Fox poll about 5 years ago that had a plus/minus of 17
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:18 AM
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6. Most Independents are nothing more than republicans too embarrassed
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:18 AM by Submariner
to admit they are the right wing assholes that voted for the Bush/Cheney junta that lost the 2 wars they lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:19 AM
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7. Wrong!!!
If it weren't for Independents, Mc.Cain would be president now.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:20 AM
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8. The subsample that you refer to has a +/- 7% margin of error
Making it pretty much worthless.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:21 AM
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9. Not to poster.
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 01:24 AM by FrenchieCat
Serves the purpose just right....and the Corporate poll takers know that well.

Watch this poll make the news, without nary a mention on the margin of error.
That how polls are used as propaganda to perpetuate big lies...

That's why the "news" kept repeating an entire year prior to the midterms that
Democrats were going to lose big....over and over and over again. It did the trick.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:27 AM
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13. Even better news is the Bloomberg poll: 51/43
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:30 AM
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14. But that doesn't fit well with the propaganda meme we are supposed to
buy into. So no.....just that Reuter poll is the measurement of somebody's
selling of their "truth".
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:31 AM
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16. LOL ;) n/t
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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 01:31 AM
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15. Taking all the polls together he's syill up by 1
And I'm sure those polls together have a better plus/minus than 7
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 04:57 PM
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21. which must mean he has improved his standing with Democrats
and all of the Democratic critics have migrated here, to DU.
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