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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 07:29 PM
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Now Republicans want to repeal child labor laws
from Senate Bill 222 as proposed in the Missouri Senate (and this is a pdf). we note that the bill would repeal certain sections of law related to child labor, specifically:

To repeal sections 294.021, 294.022, 294.024, 294.027, 294.030, 294.040, 294.045, 294.051, 294.054, 294.060, 294.070, 294.080, 294.090, and 294.100...
So what do these sections contain? How about 294.021:


<294.021. No child under fourteen years of age shall be employed or permitted to work at any occupation at any time; except as provided in this chapter.>.

those brackets mean this is a section of law whose repeal is proposed, and thus a child under 14 were no longer be limited in being able to be employed.
And it gets worse.

294.024:


<294.024. A child may not be employed during the regular school term unless the child has been issued a work certificate or a work permit pursuant to the provisions of this chapter.>

Thus a child could now be employed during the school term without a work permit.
It gets worse. I am not going to quote all of what is being eliminated.

It's pretty bad.

A child under 16 can work in motels/hotels - and without restrictions on hours - now that should raise some eyebrows.

No work permits would be required for those 15 or 16.

The authority of the Director of the Division of Labor Standards to oversee employers of children is eliminated.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/14/944565/-Now-Republicans-want-to-repeal-child-labor-laws

This project to repeal the Child Labor Act is coming amost exclusively from the christian right.

They tried to do it in 1996 with Ralph Reed proposing it.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 07:30 PM
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1. They are insane.
Or more accurately, the reporting of what they are doing, is trying to make you insane.

:shrug:

I am due beer and travel money, and many experiences. So I know what is going on, and what should happen.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 07:33 PM
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2. In the context of the Christian Right it makes sick sense
It is the hard puritan streak in US Culture. Idleness, and yes school and book reading are seen as such... is bad for the soul... an idle person has time to think.

What can I say? Read enough of the Puritan thought and yes, you too will get it. Some of these people want to go back to the pure and ready times of the sixteen century... at the time idle children (that is as early as eight) were sold into indentures and sent to the new world as cheap labor and a form of slavery.

Ah the echoes of history are strong in this crowd.
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Proud Liberal Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 07:48 PM
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4. Something is strong with these people
and it ain't brains!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 07:52 PM
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5. They are not dumb
they are anarchists... they do not believe in government, but they also have a sense of worship for the past that is yes... religious in nature. THey wish to also craete a theocracy in the here and now by the way.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 07:46 PM
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3. Lemmings off a cliff.
nuts
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enuegii Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 08:26 PM
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6. Lemmings don't actually commit suicide by following each other
over cliffs.
People who follow the likes of Ralph Reed, on the other hand, just might.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 09:13 PM
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8. Thanks.
I regarded it as a saying more than fact.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 09:11 PM
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7. That's my Missouri Senate.......
They are Zany! They are Madcap!

They are absolutely out of their frigging minds!
:banghead:
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ShadowLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 09:19 PM
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9. I don't see how Missouri can repeal federal law
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-14-11 09:37 PM
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10. Maybe they will bring back
7-year-old chimney sweeps next.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 03:12 AM
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11. William Blake comes to mind.
The Chimney Sweeper

When my mother died I was very young,
And my father sold me while yet my tongue
Could scarcely cry 'weep! 'weep! 'weep! 'weep!
So your chimneys I sweep, and in soot I sleep.

There's little Tom Dacre, who cried when his head,
That curled like a lamb's back, was shaved: so I said,
"Hush, Tom! never mind it, for when your head's bare,
You know that the soot cannot spoil your white hair."

And so he was quiet; and that very night,
As Tom was a-sleeping, he had such a sight, -
That thousands of sweepers, Dick, Joe, Ned, and Jack,
Were all of them locked up in coffins of black.

And by came an angel who had a bright key,
And he opened the coffins and set them all free;
Then down a green plain leaping, laughing, they run,
And wash in a river, and shine in the sun.

Then naked and white, all their bags left behind,
They rise upon clouds and sport in the wind;
And the angel told Tom, if he'd be a good boy,
He'd have God for his father, and never want joy.

And so Tom awoke; and we rose in the dark,
And got with our bags and our brushes to work.
Though the morning was cold, Tom was happy and warm;
So if all do their duty they need not fear harm.
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 05:46 AM
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12. Exactly what I was thinking of
but I went with Songs of Experience:


A little black thing in the snow,
Crying "'weep! 'weep!" in notes of woe!
"Where are thy father and mother? Say!"--
"They are both gone up to the church to pray.

"Because I was happy upon the heath,
And smiled among the winter's snow,
They clothed me in the clothes of death,
And taught me to sing the notes of woe.

"And because I am happy and dance and sing,
They think they have done me no injury,
And are gone to praise God and his priest and king,
Who make up a heaven of our misery.

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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 12:36 PM
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19. A fellow English major?
:hi:
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 04:33 PM
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20. You got it.
Actually, I am teaching a course on Romanticism - just finished Blake.
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Lyric Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 08:16 PM
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21. Ahhh, yes.
I remember my Brit Lit II class doing the Romantics. I really loved Blake, but god, did I ever hate Wordsworth. What a pompous, ignorant, over-privileged you-know-what. Did you guys do Shelley and the picturesque/sublime? :)
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tomg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:08 AM
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26. This morning I
teach the 2nd Preface to Lyrical Ballads. That is pretty revolutionary, but I can't stand WW either. Coleridge, M.and P Shelley, Keats and Byron.When I hit the sublime, I go to J.M.W Turner et al.

Actually, the class started talking about Blake, French Revolution and the apocalyptic moment in terms of Eqypt, Tunisia. They did it.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 11:35 PM
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23. and thelittle match girl, and the 3 year old working beside her 5yo sister
getting clams.
http://www.historyplace.com/unitedstates/childlabor/

http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/hine-photos/


I have been warning of this as KakistocracyHater, they want to undo the entire 20th Century. Fist step is create hostility towards public education, then spreadhate for teachers, then divert public monies to private schools, then have counties unable to provide charter papers for each child due to GOP spending sprees, then implement the "Right to Work" for children as a good character-building jobs for kids....











oh yeah, my computer was stolen from a repair shop, or so the owner claims
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Moody Donating Member (128 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 05:54 AM
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13. Someone explain to me how this could possibly be good for our country?
I am serious. I really don't get it. Don't the Christian right want their children to be educated? I can see giving the kids some chores but work? Especially now when we have such a problem with unemployment!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 06:29 AM
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14. There is use for education
because Christ will be returning any moment now.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 12:05 AM
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24. they may say it brings jobs back to America
nt
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JoePhilly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 08:08 AM
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15. The GOP plans to "take the country back" alright .. . back to 1830 or so.
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bonnieS Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 08:24 AM
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16. obviously
this is their jobs program.
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StarsInHerHair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 12:06 AM
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25. yep, 14 yo getting working papers in NYC
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 08:28 AM
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17. I don't know. Maybe this is a good thing.
The way things are going some families will have to have kids selling lemonade to pay the family heating bill. (Do I really have to insert the sarcasm smilie?)
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 08:45 AM
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18. Just another one of those regulations restricting businesses
from hiring :sarcasm:. This is sickening.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-15-11 08:37 PM
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22. Seems like all of these regulations concern children working in the entertainment industry.
Strange. I wonder if this is supposed to be a gateway bill.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 07:00 AM
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27. Welcome to the Dickensian lifestyle...
Dream of the RW...Nightmare of not just MO, but the nation.

Next on the agenda...human sacrifice?
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