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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 12:18 PM
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Ohio 2012 Poll--Obama weak but leads all four leading GOP candidates
Barack Obama continues to be unpopular in Ohio, sporting a 42% approval rating with 49% of voters disapproving of him. But speaking to the weakness of the current front runners for the Republican nomination in 2012, Obama leads all four of them in hypothetical reelection contests.

Against Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney Obama would face a closer race in the state than in 2008, when he won it by 4 points. He leads Huckabee just 45-44 and Romney 44-42. If the Republicans were to nominate either Newt Gingrich or Sarah Palin Obama would have a more comfortable lead- it's 47-41 over Gingrich and 49-42 over Palin.

The reason for the disconnect between Obama's poor approval numbers and his leads over all the GOP hopefuls? The Republican candidate field is simply very weak. Only Huckabee is rated favorably by voters in the state, with 41% of voters viewing him favorably to 36% with an unfavorable opinion. Romney is only slightly unpopular with 36% of voters holding a positive view of him to 39% with a negative one. But Gingrich and Palin are strongly disliked by voters in the state, posting favorability spreads of 30/51 and 37/52 respectively.

There are two major places where the Republicans fall short that allow Obama to maintain leads over them. The first is with Democrats- only 71% of them approve of Obama, suggesting the ability for Republicans to make in roads there. And they did show some ability to do that in last month's election- PPP's final poll of the Senate race found Rob Portman taking 22% of the Democratic vote. None of these Republicans come anywhere close to matching that though- Huckabee and Palin take 11% of Democrats, Romney gets 10%, and Gingrich only 9%. Obama has some vulnerability with the more conservative wing of his party but at this point none of these GOP hopefuls are really in a position to take advantage of that.

The other place where the Republicans under perform is with independents. PPP's final poll for the 2010 election found both Portman- a 37 point advantage- and John Kasich- an 18 point lead- cleaning up with them. And Obama continues to be pretty unpopular with them, at a 40/54 approval breakdown. But for all of that Obama basically earns a draw with independents, trailing Romney by 6 points and Huckabee by 3 points with them while leading Gingrich by 2 points and Palin by 3 points with them.

There are more Democrats than Republicans in Ohio so for a GOP Presidential candidate to take the state in 2012 is going to take either a) more crossover support from Democrats than this or b) a much wider advantage with independents than this.

Obviously 2012 is a long way off and a lot will happen between now and then. But this is a pretty low time for Obama's Presidency, fresh off his party getting annihilated in the midterm election. He probably ought to be trailing in a place like Ohio right now and the fact that he isn't is a clear sign that one of these Republicans needs to really improve their image- or that the party needs to nominate a fresher face than someone in their current top 4

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 12:36 PM
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1. K&R.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 12:53 PM
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2. This is the key paragraph for me
Obviously 2012 is a long way off and a lot will happen between now and then. But this is a pretty low time for Obama's Presidency, fresh off his party getting annihilated in the midterm election. He probably ought to be trailing in a place like Ohio right now and the fact that he isn't is a clear sign that one of these Republicans needs to really improve their image- or that the party needs to nominate a fresher face than someone in their current top 4
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Willinois Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 12:54 PM
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3. Which is why a poll this far out is meaningless.
Why bother taking it and why bother posting it?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 12:59 PM
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4. I always am surprised when people who don't care about polls
post a reply. If it's meaningless and I shouldn't post it why are you even opening the thread? But since you asked the reason I posted it and others is because there are posters on DU who say that Obama won't win and it's just their personal opinions but they post them like its the gospel truth, so I at least try to post something that backs up an assertion that Obama can win.
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Willinois Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 01:03 PM
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5. But you also post polls that suggest Democrats and Obama willl lose.
Most of your posts are polls. And it seems fairly obvious that polls were used as a kind of psychological campaign tactic against Democrats in the last election.

If polls this far in advance had any value then Hillary Clinton would have been the Democratic nominee. I don't understand your infatuation with posting so many polls.
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fatbuckel Donating Member (518 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 01:05 PM
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6. Duh. Because all the repubs recently elected did`nt tell you anything?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 01:51 PM
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7. I am so sick to my stomach I don't even care right now. nt
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Robbins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 01:54 PM
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8. This Is good news
PPP Is the most credable pollster lately.While In both Nevada and Colorado they had Angle and Buck winning It was by 1 point.Better
than others which had larger leads.They had Toomey ahead by 1 In PA.He won by 2.

This Is lowpoint for Obama yet Republicans still can't pull ahead In Ohio.He Is In dead heat with both Huchabee and Romney.Ahead of
Huchabee by 1 and Romney by 2.As I have said Huchabee Is unlikely to get the nomination.Obama will face Palin or Romeny In 2012.

Right now noone Is talking about republicans and their views.Come 2012 Obama will have a target to attack.Broadly attacking leaders
In COngress never works but when you have one person to go after that can work.Palin gurantees Obama a second term.Romney has lots of weakness that can he explored.

PPP's polls are showing Obama could win Virginia,Ohio,Minnesotta,and Michigan In 2012.Against Romney,Palin,and Gingrich could win NC.Against Palin could win Missouri.Against Gingrich(who won't win the nomination) he would be In deadheat In Missouri.
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craigmatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 02:17 PM
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9. To start off in 2012 Obama has a floor of about 253 electoral votes without
OH, VA, NC, or FL. The question is how many of these states can he swing back into his colum.
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 02:19 PM
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10. I'm reminded of a movie...let's see...
hmmm....

Idiocracy...

Well, that's close...

Wait, I've got it! "Dumb and Dumber"...
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 04:31 PM
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11. One thing about Huckabee:
A while back during the 2008 primaries, I did a web-search on the major Republican candidates and unions. Most were predictably pro-"Right To Work", but to my GREAT surprise, Mike Huckabee was NOT!
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Exilednight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-14-10 10:35 PM
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12. Carter had a 51% approval rating when he lost to Reagan. n/t
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