Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

WSJ: Shutting Up Business (updated)

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 08:01 PM
Original message
WSJ: Shutting Up Business (updated)
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 08:11 PM by ProSense

Shutting Up Business

Democrats unleash the IRS and Justice on donors to their political opponents.

If at first you don't succeed, get some friends in high places to shut your opponents up. That's the latest Washington power play, as Democrats and liberals attack the Chamber of Commerce and independent spending groups in an attempt to stop businesses from participating in politics.

Since the Supreme Court's January decision in Citizens United v. FEC, Democrats in Congress have been trying to pass legislation to repeal the First Amendment for business, though not for unions. Having failed on that score, they're now turning to legal and political threats. Funny how all of this outrage never surfaced when the likes of Peter Lewis of Progressive insurance and George Soros helped to make Democrats financially dominant in 2006 and 2008.

<...>

The outrage over the Chamber is especially amusing considering the role of foreigners in U.S. labor unions. According to the Center for Competitive Politics, close to half of the unions that are members of the AFL-CIO are international. One man's corporate commingling is another's union dues.

Unions and liberal groups are hardly cash poor this year in any case. The Campaign Media Analysis Group looked at the combined spending of candidates, their parties and outside groups and found that Democrats outspent Republicans $47.3 million to $40.8 million in a recent 60-day period.

more


Except that full disclosure by unions is required by law.

This allegation has really put the right on the defensive. What are they hiding? What are they afraid of?

Updated to add this point from an earlier WSJ article:

<...>

The SEIU says that political dues from Canadian members are kept separate and the union asks its 300,000 U.S. political action committee contributors whether they are U.S. citizens but doesn't require proof.

Such methods are "not good enough," says Kenneth Gross, a campaign-finance lawyer at Skadden, Arps in Washington. "A union can't just solicit workers in the U.S. and hope for the best. Additional steps need to be taken to ensure that foreign citizens who do not hold green cards are not contributing," he said.


The fact is that their "unions do it too" like claim is bogus. Here this lawyer is introducing another burden of proof beyond full disclosure, this time wanting proof that people who claim they're U.S. citizens are in fact U.S. citizens?

To start, how about getting the Chamber to provide full disclosure like the unions do?




Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 08:12 PM
Response to Original message
1. corporations who ship jobs overseas should be taxed to the breaking point maybe nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 08:26 PM
Original message
Says the paper owned by Rupert Murdoch
sigh
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 08:35 PM
Response to Original message
3. The irony is lost on them.
It's okay for a so-called news organization to fund a political party.

Notice they mention Peter Lewis and George Soros?

Know how they know this: their donations are disclosed. Also, what does that have to do with the influence of foreign money?



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
2. dupe
Edited on Sun Oct-10-10 08:26 PM by dave29
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-10-10 10:46 PM
Response to Original message
4. No other comments? n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Fri Apr 26th 2024, 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » General Discussion: Presidency Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC