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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:35 AM
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Obama Administration to Cover PTSD for ALL Veterans

Obama Administration to Cover PTSD for ALL Veterans

by dansac

An important subject that should not go overlooked today:

The government is preparing to issue new rules that will make it substantially easier for veterans who have been found to have post-traumatic stress disorder to receive disability benefits, a change that could affect hundreds of thousands of veterans from the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam.

This as a major, ground-shifting change in the way our nation treats returning veterans - many of whom clearly suffer from PSTD, but have not been able to provide the documentation necessary to "prove" it and thereby receive treatment from the VA. Now, under the new rules issued by the Veterans Administration Dept (led by Obama appointee Eric Shinseki), literally hundreds of thousands of soldiers from all our past wars will now be able to access much-needed treatment.

The regulations from the Department of Veterans Affairs, which will take effect as early as Monday and cost as much as $5 billion over several years according to Congressional analysts, will essentially eliminate a requirement that veterans document specific events like bomb blasts, firefights or mortar attacks that might have caused P.T.S.D., an illness characterized by emotional numbness, irritability and flashbacks.

This requirement has forced suffering veterans countless and fruitless hours searching for any sort of evidence, paperwork that's not easy to come by. Now?

Under the new rule, which applies to veterans of all wars, the department will grant compensation to those with P.T.S.D. if they can simply show that they served in a war zone and in a job consistent with the events that they say caused their conditions. They would not have to prove, for instance, that they came under fire, served in a front-line unit or saw a friend killed.

Not surprisingly, some in conservative quarters are crying that this will open the floodgates for abuse and create a system of dependent veterans who don't want to work:

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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:36 AM
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1. Why do Democrats hate our troops?
:sarcasm:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:12 AM
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:34 AM
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43. Please post a link to anyone on DU who has ever
said that a U.S. soldier deserves to suffer for serving in a war.

That is an outrageous charge and you need to prove it or apologize for the attack on your fellow DUers. I have never seen such a statement, but if one exists, I'd like to see it.

Thank you in advance.
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:37 AM
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2. Obama does the right thing time after time
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:26 AM
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14. What a magnificent image. Brought tears to my eyes. Thank you.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:17 AM
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17. I love the look the woman on his right is giving him.
"Well, heeellllo there. Sir."
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alsame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:38 AM
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3. Good. nt
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:47 AM
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4. This is a very important issue that really should get more media coverage
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:53 AM
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7. just like the plans to reduce over 1/2 of the world's plutonium
just like the plans to get rid of 1/2 of the world's nuclear warheads

or


Passing the "largest" economic stimulus bill in American history.
Ordering the closing of Guantanamo Bay military detention facility and abolishing "enhanced interrogation techniques."
Setting a fixed timetable for withdrawing U.S. combat forces from Iraq.
Ordering 21,000 additional troops to Afghanistan and enlisting, with modest new assistance, European allies in a new multi-layered strategy there and in Pakistan, and setting a timetable for a drawdown of our troops.
"Returning science to its rightful place" by lifting the Bush restrictions on federally funded embryonic stem cell research.
Signing laws to expand children's health insurance (financed by a 61-cent per pack increase in the federal cigarette tax the adviser did not tout).
Signing a law meant to improve the ability of women who allege pay discrimination to sue their employer.
Lifting travel and remittance restrictions for Cuban Americans who seek to travel more frequently to the island and send more US currency to their immediate family.
Appointed the first Latina to the US Supreme Court
signed a law supporting increased financial aid to severely injured war veterans, and their caretakers.
Banned offshore drilling until parameters for deep well safety procedures are clarified.
Put a hold on Artic oil exploratory digging until environmental impacts are clear.
Passed health care reform.
signed a hate crime bill .

the press will be right on this ..... is this needed? :sarcasm:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:18 AM
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11. Well I guess when the Republicans own most of the media
it's not likely to happen.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:28 AM
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12. He's working to realize Reagan's dream of a world free from nuclear weapons.
My canned response to critics who raise the baseless assertion that POTUS is somehow weak on defense.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:18 PM
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33. The MSM won't report anything positive he does.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:50 AM
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5. The people who say that this can be abused are, quite simply, morons
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 08:51 AM by ck4829
Even a student of psychology would most likely be able to tell which veterans will need assistance and which ones are faking.

K&R.
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firedupdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:50 AM
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6. K&R!
Excellent News.
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Clio the Leo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:01 AM
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8. kick nt
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:10 AM
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9. About frackin' time.
Some in conservative quarters can do something rude and physically impossible to themselves.
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:54 AM
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13. Thanks Mr. President, this is desperately needed. n/t
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:00 AM
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15. Is there any question about which party really supports the troops?
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:33 PM
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27. There never really was.
Conservatives support the troops by sending them off to get killed, maimed, and PTSDed. Oh, and with magnets on bumpers.
Liberals support them by demanding they be taken care of them when they come back.

Can't wait to see how Republicans try to spin this away or counter it with "But treatment for PTSD will make veterans lazy!".
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jonnyblitz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:51 PM
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29. oh please, it's the least this admin can do since it's escalating
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 06:52 PM by jonnyblitz
the war that gives the troops the PTSD to begin with. neither party really supports the troops if they both insist on sending them to die needlessly for political reasons.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:01 PM
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37. This is extremely important to many people.
Yeah, it is the least they can do and now the government is finally doing it. Can you stop bashing Obama long enough to recognize the value in this? Jesusfuckingchrist that was one fucked up comment.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:12 AM
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:44 AM
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19. Wow...just wow. n/t
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NoSheep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 12:31 PM
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20. Good grief.
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:38 AM
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18. Great News!!!
There are so many veterans that can use the help.

Well done!!!

:applause:
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 01:08 PM
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21. K&R thank you Mr. President!
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Ross K Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 01:10 PM
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22. K&R!
Long overdue!
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 01:13 PM
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23. K&R.

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politicasista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 02:24 PM
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24. Kick!
:kick: :patriot:
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 02:33 PM
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25. this will really go a long way toward the goal of ending
homelessness of veterans, one of shinseki/obama's goals. i am sure that was the point of this change.

yeah, there's some hopey changey stuff for ya.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 04:22 AM
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47. exactly,
I sure hope we can finally one day end homelessness for our veterans.
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Dystopian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 02:39 PM
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26. KandR
Finally. I went to the VA hospital with my husband and his mother in 1972. PTSD and heroin addiction. They told him that he could not enter the rehab program unless he cut his hair. He refused. They showed him the door. Twenty years later DOA by the needle.
Our vets need all the help they can get. One case of PTSD can tear a family apart forever.

peace~
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Shireling Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:20 PM
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28. I'm so glad to hear this.
I get so frustrated with things, and then I hear something like this. It gives me hope.

:kick:
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:53 PM
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30. Good. Naturally, conservatives are more concerned with potential fraud than with
soldiers who have PTSD.
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 07:44 PM
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31. They go with what they know. n/t
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:02 PM
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32. Where are all the Obama=Bush posters? n/t
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dave29 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:57 PM
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34. they have decided this is a good time to debate that terrible health care bill. Again.
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 08:57 PM by dave29
Ironically.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:03 PM
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36. Of course.
That sounds like the natural thing to do.
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impik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 06:57 AM
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49. And making sure they'll keep spreading the good new lies of how Obama going to cut social security
Pathetic.
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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:26 AM
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50. Well, let's keep this thread kicked...
since it's TRUE and it speaks of how much better Obama is than Bush, Reagan, Nixon, etc.
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:09 PM
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39. They're always absent in these kinds of threads.... because they have an agenda

...an agenda to discredit the President as much as they possibly can.

Some are being paid to do so.

Others are simply delusional.

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jenmito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 10:28 AM
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51. Well, there ARE some comments which have been deleted...
so a few DID come here to try to bring that agenda on THIS thread.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:37 AM
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44. They're busy saying Nixon > Obama.
Which is a great example of what huffing paint fumes will do.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:01 PM
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35. but
OBAMA IS MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN RAYGUN!!!!!1!11!1!!111!!!
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 10:32 PM
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38. K & R
:thumbsup:
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 11:15 PM
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40. Glad to hear this.
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:08 AM
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41. A sound idea, long overdue, and much welcomed.
Vets were tossed off the train under Bush.

Here they get the respect they have earned.

Recommended.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 12:20 AM
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42. k*r Great news
This makes sense and it's the right and decent thing to do. Three cheers!
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 01:43 AM
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45. Excellent!
:thumbsup:
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 02:05 AM
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46. Great. Now let's stop making new cases. nt
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lillypaddle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 06:38 AM
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48. Seems that many good things
are happening behind the scenes. This is wonderful news.
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