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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 09:40 AM
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Did Cheney Understand We Were At War?
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2010/01/did-cheney-understand-we-were-at-war.html

Did Cheney Understand We Were At War?
Andrew Sullivan


Dick Cheney is the former vice-president whose national security expertise was central to his appeal in 2000 as Bush's running mate. Yet within nine months, Cheney presided over the worst attack on American soil in US history, failed to capture its perpetrators, failed to bring any of its plotters to justice, made convicting them much harder because he secretly and illegally authorized their brutal torture, and recruited a new and young wave of Jihadists by the exposure of the barbarism at Gitmo, Bagram, Camp Cropper, Camp Nama and the various black torture sites he helped set up across the globe. For good measure, Cheney also lost the war in Afghanistan and his closest confidant Don Rumsfeld lost the war in Iraq (the success of the subsequent "surge" will be tested this year as troops withdraw). Under Cheney, for good measure, both Iran and North Korea made huge strides toward getting nukes.

Not only did Cheney allow bin Laden to escape in Tora Bora, he also helped radicalize many actually innocent prisoners (three quarters of those thrown into the torture camp at Gitmo were innocent of any charges), and then set many of these radicalized new Jihadists free to wreak further terror on the US and the world.

In fact, an Obama administration official has asserted that all the former Gitmo prisoners who have become Jihadists upon release were set free by Bush and Cheney. Just as Cheney had bin Laden in his grasp and allowed his fathomless incompetence to lose him, he has actually helped create and then unleash Jihadists across the world.

How this utter failure gets to pontificate on terror after his disastrous record is beyond me. But then, Mike Allen would have fewer pageviews, wouldn't he?
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 09:48 AM
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1. What ever DID happen to the meme that criticizing the President during war is unpatriotic?
It seems to have conveniently vanished...
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 10:55 AM
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6. 2008 election
It changed everything.

Like everything else with the right wing, it is a one way street. You can't criticize them. They are the only ones allowed to use criticism.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 10:17 AM
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2. Cheney gets to pontificate because the Obama Administration and Senate Dems refuse to investigate
Edited on Fri Jan-08-10 10:17 AM by KittyWampus
him. And Bush.
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 10:41 AM
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3. Of course.
But his bank account was doing just great!
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 10:43 AM
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4. Let's not compete on "jingoism" ... we're NOT "at war" ... Congress has NOT declared it.
Cheney is vile but President Obama does not have to play the War Game that just serves to grow more terrorists.

But WAR is good for business and Cheney wants to be War USA Inc's new CEO.

That's the problem, we don't need this rhetoric to be in play at all. :(
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-08-10 10:44 AM
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5. Someone should remind the media
the only reason people hear Cheney's rantings is because the media are pushing it.

Besides we are beginning to think that Cheney was the mastermind behind 9/11
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