Okay, I'll say it

[Debi]

Thank God for JRB.

[Muttocracy]

1. yep. Glad I don't have to regret a penny or word of support.

[Eurobabe]

2. Hell yeah !!!!

You could knock me over with a feather right now. I am so disappointed in JRE. :eyes:

I was just talking to my mom, she hadn't yet heard, she was shocked too. I have always said that there was something phoney about Edwards, I could not EVER in 2004 or in primaries wrap my arms around him. This just proves my gut instincts were correct.

[gateley]

4. I never trusted him either -

just a gut feeling -- but interestingly, for some reason I never thought it would be an affair that would prove me right.

[CrispyQ]

45. I try not to judge people based on nebulous feelings that I have,

but Edwards has always seemed shifty to me. I didn't like him as Kerry's VP.

I could care less about his infidelity, but sadly, today's American are greatly influenced by these kinds of personal matters. Because of that, to think he risked the party's chances by running, knowing he had this skeleton in the closet, really pisses me off. He he were our nominee, we would be totally fucked right now.

[gateley]

3. 48 brought this up in response to a post of mine where I was saying that

"they" always lie when they get caught. She pointed out that Joe had never done this --

and again, it shows what a GOOD PERSON Joe is, through and through.

I'm honored to be such a staunch supporter and BELIEVER in Joe.

[Muttocracy]

5. You know what burns me even more - without Edwards in Iowa

Biden, Dodd or Richardson would have made it into the top three, instead of the 3 least qualified.

:grr:

I could never reconcile his Senate record and his sudden popularism. Whole lotta fake going on there.

[Debi]

8. Trust me - that's the conversation I've been having

with other Biden supporters here in Iowa x(

[gateley]

9. Oh!

And remember him whispering to Hillary that they should cut down the debates to only the SERIOUS contenders? JRE, Obama and Hillary.

I'd forgotten how fucking FURIOUS that made me!

:grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr::grr:

[jillan]

14. Richardson for sure.

And Edwards bragged about coming in second in Iowa.

[jillan]

6. I feel sooooo bad for Elizabeth.

Damn.

[Eurobabe]

7. Ditto, if I were her, I'd kick his sorry ass

to the curb.

[gateley]

10. You know, she may have forgiven him in 2006,

for all sorts of reasons (loved him, kids, whatever), but I doubt if she knew he was going to go visit her at the Beverly Hilton recently.

He says it was only for a brief period in 2006 -- they why did he see her a little while ago?

I think he's lying about the kid. Or stupid to make such a statement without a DNA test to back him up.

[Eurobabe]

11. That little girl is his.

Why the hell else would he visit Camilla? At 3am in the morning??

The other shoe is about to drop.

[jillan]

13. I love the one that he said about how it was his supporters, not him, that paid

to keep Camilla quiet.

Yep - and I've got oceanfront property here in Phoenix.

[gateley]

16. Well in a way that's kind of right -

Funds were probably from his campaign contributions.

Is Camilla the little girl's name?

[jillan]

19. What a thought - you are probably right.

[PatSeg]

27. Shit, that's a great message

to send to all those unemployed, under-employed, uninsured, working class people who supported his campaign and probably sent him money they couldn't afford.

[Muttocracy]

36. that's what pisses me off - the $39 million in contributions

I hope he didn't get a public match.

[PatSeg]

38. Great defender of the poor and underprivileged

Absolutely disgusting.

[gateley]

42. I heard something worse --

that the money came from his poverty program fund.

But in the interview he swears no money came from him, and a compatriot validated that and said it was from him, unbeknownst to JE. :shrug:

[Eurobabe]

41. No it's my pet name for Rielle who is a dead ringer for Chuck's

horsey-faced sweetheart.

[gateley]

43. Bwah! Glad you id'd the horse and Camilla! In that shot,

the woman really DOES look like The Horse!

[AspenRose]

53. I feel so sorry for that innocent baby girl

And for the Edwards children as well.

He's lied about so many other things....probably lying about this, too. He's already demonstrated he cannot be trusted.

[Muttocracy]

56. yeah, the kids are the innocent ones here :(

[jillan]

12. To the moon, at least.

How dare he do this to her?

Another thing that slimeball did that drove me crazy was when he used Elizabeth's cancer in his campaign ads. Made me sick then, makes me even more pukey now.

[Eurobabe]

15. Yeah, that burned me up too.

:puke:

[CrispyQ]

46. I'd make a terrible politician's wife.

If I found out my man were cheating, it would be so over, campaign or no campaign! My only comment to the media would be, "He's history & I'm outta here!"

[PatSeg]

47. I'm with you!

When I see those women standing stiffly beside "their man" at the podium, I want to slap them. And I want to slap the men for asking their wives to do so. The fact that any cheating man would expect or even allow his wife to share that stage negates any repentance he professes in his tearful public confession.

In that sense, Edwards show a bit of class by not having his wife be part of his public flogging. There is a limit to how much humiliation a woman has to suffer because of her husband's mistakes.

[PatSeg]

48. Oh Crispy

by the way, did you notice Corona dropped by?

[PatSeg]

17. That photo always chokes me up

I bit my tongue about Edwards for a long time as I really liked and respected some of his supporters. I was appalled when Elizabeth's cancer returned and he didn't take that opportunity to say "my family comes first" and drop out. I know Elizabeth continued to campaign out of choice, but it seems to me a devoted husband (and father of small children) would have said "NO, you and the children are more important."

I cringed when I saw pictures of Elizabeth on the campaign trail, looking very tired and ill, I was furious with Edwards for not putting her first and put aside his ambition.

I never trusted him. His body language and facial expressions usually said LIE to me. I've known my far share and I can generally spot them.

[jillan]

20. I do feel sorry for some of the DUers that really believed in him.

That must hurt them worse than we felt when Biden dropped out.

I think I'll start a thread out there.

[PatSeg]

21. I agree

Just imagine how we'd feel if we found out that Biden had lied to us and let us down. There were a lot of really good people who believed in Edwards and his message. Sadly, I bought the message but not the messenger.

[AspenRose]

54. That is where I screwed up

I believe in the message and was not in tune with the messenger. At least he was the 2nd choice and not my first pick.

[gateley]

25. I saw that thread, P - that was so sweet of you.

I can't even fathom how I'd feel if we found out something similar about Joe.

Although, I can't picture Joe lying and playing dumb when people asked him questions about it.

OC comes to mind - one of my favorite DU people. :(

[PatSeg]

31. OC, absolutely one of my favorites

It has been so nice seeing him back on the boards the last few weeks. Its because of people like him that I can't go out there and say "I told you so".

[gateley]

33. Ditto. Same reason I've held my tongue.

What good would it serve?

[PatSeg]

35. Don't want to alienate the good guys

and Edwards had a lot of them supporting him.

[jillan]

37. I was thinking of him and and a few others.

There were some Edwards supporters that really liked Biden as their 2nd choice.

[gateley]

18. How old is the baby? Anybody know?

[PatSeg]

22. Baby was born in February

The 27th, I think. So that would be about five months.

[gateley]

23. So if he's being truthful about the affair ending in 2006,

this couldn't be his baby. Hmmmm. So if he's telling the truth, why the fuck did he just go visit her? Someone out there said maybe to tell her he was going to come out with it. But I don't think he was going to come out with it before the NE broke the story about him visiting her. And, he couldn't call?

Still stinks.

[PatSeg]

24. The problem with lying

Once you get caught, especially in a big one, no one is going to trust you after that.

Tough luck, John. Unfortunately your family will have to pay for your dishonesty.

[gateley]

26. True - we know them by their actions. nt

[PatSeg]

28. You know

the more we talk about it, the angrier I get.

[gateley]

29. Ha!

Don't let it get to you, Pat. He's just another politician who believed in his own invicibility and figured the rules didn't apply to him.

This doesn't make me nearly as angry as his statement to Clinton to winnow out the "less-thans" from the political debates. i'm glad he's getting kicked in the teeth, frankly. Just so sorry for his family and his supporters.

[PatSeg]

30. Well one part of me

was looking at it politically but the woman part of me is furious. I've known too many guys like that - they cheat and lie and smile that big grin. My experience is if they get caught, they're really apologetic but when the dust settles, they do it again. The whole world revolves around them and their needs.

[gateley]

32. I know. I've dated a few and lived with one.

What always made me kind of question my dislike/distrust of JE, was Elizabeth. She's so sharp and strong, and I just couldn't picture her with a guy like that for all those years. And I think that she said some things about what a good person she knew John to be. (Interestingly, it was a similar comment by Michelle Obama that made me look again at Barack when I was still waffling between him and HIllary.)

[PatSeg]

34. They really are in sharp contrast to each other

Elizabeth talks like a real person and most of us could relate to her. John talked like a high powered attorney and when I watched him, I picked up something very phony. There were so many things that were wrong, at least from my perspective as a woman.

[Muttocracy]

39. I like your thread out there.

People who are arguing it's their private business are not looking at things in light of political reality. Even if people think Americans get too Puritanical about this, that's a whole 'nother issue - the reality is any savvy politician would KNOW this would be found and what the consequences would be for a recent, campaign-related affair.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=6609746&mesg_id=6609746

[Debi]

49. Thanks - I like the responses that say it's not about the cheating

it's about the lying.

Folks who want to be under the microscope need to remember that they are under the microscope.

[gateley]

52. Great statement, Debi. Simple. Uncomplicated. Period. nt

[jillan]

40. What I wish I knew - is what Biden is thinking about all this. What about John Kerry?

What about Obama? jeez.

For those of you with cable, watch Larry King tonite.
The National Enquirer has a pic of Edwards holding the baby this past July.
They said they have more info that will come out.

[gateley]

44. Obama said something about they're going through a very painful time now

and need to heal or something like that. What could he say?

Doubt we'll be hearing from Joe or Kerry. They're probably thinking "you idiot!"

[Debi]

50. Kerry has his own skeletons

But like McCain they are years and years ago.

So far no public figure is commenting - hopefully it will all be overshadowed by the Olympics and forgotten two weeks from now.

[jillan]

51. Kerry does?

Do tell.

I know he dated Morgan Fairchild and there was some other hottie he was dating before Teresa.

Do tell.

[Debi]

55. I PM'd you

:shrug: You can decide if you want to use The Google to dig any farther.

[gateley]

57. Kerry's not running for President, so it REALLY isn't relevant.

Neither is Edwards, of course, but he ran full well knowing he was coming in with a huge secret lie just waiting to explode.

[Debi]

58. You are correct, my response was to your post re: what Kerry was thinking

I should have said that Kerry won't comment or his comments will be vague and left it at that.

[gateley]

59. Gotcha. It was P who said that though, I think. nt

[Debi]

60. Dammit - I looked at the wrong post

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