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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:09 PM
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Bill Black: No, Mr. President, you did not negotiate a winning tax deal
Bill Black: No, Mr. President, you did not negotiate a winning tax deal
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2010/12/bill-black-no-mr-president-you-did-not-negotiate-a-winning-tax-deal.html">naked capitalism

By Bill Black, Associate Professor of Economics and Law at the University of Missouri-Kansas City and a former senior financial regulator

This the third column in a series about President Obama’s decision to agree to support the extension of Bush’s tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. The http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/what-aspect-of-dealing-wi_b_793707.html">first column explained why the President folded on a winning hand on taxes. The http://www.huffingtonpost.com/william-k-black/the-effort-to-claim-that-_b_794862.html">second column showed that four of the five economists the administration was citing as supporting its plan were virulent opponents who were delighted that the President was capitulating to the Republicans and making them and their wealthy clients far richer. This column analyses Obama’s claim that he got the better of the Republicans in the negotiations.


The administration claims that it negotiated a winning deal with the Republicans on taxes because the Republicans gave up more than did the Democrats in the deal — a better deal than Obama thought possible. Austan Goolsbee’s (Chairman of Obama’s Council of Economic Advisors) white board presentation claims that the administration received concessions by the Republicans that are over twice as large as the concessions that the administration made on reducing taxes for the wealthiest two percent of Americans ($238 v. $114 billion in 2011). The administration (implicitly) argues that its claim of extraordinary negotiating success represents a miraculous accomplishment given the facts that the Republicans were holding all legislation hostage to their non-negotiable demand that the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest of Americans be extended and the administration’s irrevocable decision that it could not call the Republican’s bluff because the economy would likely sink back into recession unless tax cuts for the middle class were immediately passed.

The first problem with Obama’s claimed tax miracle is that if you accept Goolsbee’s claims, then it takes a political miracle in America for a political party, pledged to ending the tax cuts for the wealthy, controlling the Presidency and with strong majorities in both Houses to get 98% of the citizens 67% of the benefits while giving the wealthiest two percent of the citizens 33% of the benefits. If Goolsbee is correct, then Obama’s tax miracle vastly increased America’s already record income inequality and ensures that the ultra wealthy will have even more dominant political power in the future to ensure that there are no new miracles. If Goolsbee is right, then things are so bad that our miracles are now disasters that further imperil our democracy.

The second problem with Obama’s claimed tax miracle is that it is too good to be true. If the Republicans really had total negotiating leverage and really opposed Obama’s plans then they would not have made any meaningful concessions to Obama. The material tax reductions for the non-wealthy and modest increased spending that the Republicans were willing to agree to prove that the Republicans could not have had total negotiating leverage and have been opposed to Obama’s proposals.

The third problem is that no element of the claimed miracle is true. The Democrats had overwhelming negotiating leverage, the Republicans did not oppose, and often strongly favored, Obama’s proposals on taxes compared to their alternative — no tax cuts. Obama capitulated to Republican demands and negotiated a deal that harmed the nation. He capitulated in a manner than guarantees that the Republicans (and the surviving Blue Dogs) will increase their tactics of bullying and holding Americans hostage to their political demands. The Republicans have confirmed (again) that Obama can be bluffed even where the bluff is taken right out of the movie Blazing Saddles (because it is facially absurd). The President compounded his failure by folding his winning hand when he would have been on the cusp of victory had he not undercut through secret surrender negotiations his Party’s big win in the House. Obama then engaged in his characteristic attack on his strongest supporters, channeling Republicans’ favorite diatribes about progressive Democrats. As my second column explained, the administration descended so low that while it was excoriating its supporters it gloried in the praise it received for capitulating on tax reductions for the wealthy from the banks representing (and the bankers who are among) the wealthiest two percent of Americans.

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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:11 PM
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1. Bill Black takes no prisoners.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:12 PM
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2. kr
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:30 PM
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9. happy holidays Hannah :)
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:33 PM
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10. same to you.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:13 PM
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3. This reminds me of Christine O'Donnell
ranting about how she won that debate about separation of church and state and how everyone but her and her staff were just too stupid to realize it.
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Celtic Raven Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:20 PM
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4. Honestly
I'd rather have someone deaf, mute, blind, & half dead negotiate on my behalf than Obama (or his team) since I could at least understand why everything is being auctioned off to the lowest bidder.

:wtf:
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:23 PM
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5. HUGE K & R !!!
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:25 PM
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6. K&R
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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:27 PM
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7. k&r for a great article.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:29 PM
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8. K&R
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Life Long Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:36 PM
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11. Dollar Rallies After U.S. Tax-Cut Agreement
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-12-11/dollar-rallies-after-u-s-tax-cut-agreement-higher-u-s-yields.html

Dec. 11 (Bloomberg) -- The dollar rose the most since September against the euro after an agreement to extend and expand tax cuts fueled speculation the U.S. economy will accelerate, driving stocks and Treasury yields higher and boosting demand for greenback-denominated assets.
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 02:41 PM
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12. Excellent article! n/t
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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 07:17 PM
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13. The Democratic Party hierarchy did deal a winning hand to themselves, not the American people.
Edited on Sat Dec-11-10 07:21 PM by AdHocSolver
Their claims make sense once you realize what the Democratic Party leadership's goal is.

The Democratic Party leadership wants to replace the Republican Party as servants of the Wealthy class.

Every action of the Democratic Party leadership since the 2008 election has been to curry the favor of the corporate elite.

The entire phony excuses of the Democratic Party leadership that the Democrats couldn't get anything but crumbs for the people because the Republican Party wouldn't go along with it is total claptrap nonsense. The Democrats did not negotiate in good faith for the people. The Democratic Party leadership willingly and cynically gave up every negotiating position without even the pretense of a fight.

Anyone who has even a modicum of knowledge of negotiating strategy knows that you don't begin a negotiation by giving up your most important demands in favor of your opponent's bargaining position. The most glaring example that we all could see was in the Democratic Party taking single payer and a public option off the table even before the actual negotiations even began.

This action was a message to the corporations that they could trust the Democrats to fight for corporate interests against the people. The Tea Party candidates who were so prominent in the recent election were a boon to the Democratic Party since those loonies caused a lot of wealthy people to worry about what a Tea Party led Republican Party would do.

We see it in the Democratic Party leadership's fight for tax cuts for the rich. This is pure trickle down economics at its worst. It is designed to transfer more wealth from the middle class to the rich. Tax cuts will not help the economy. Increasing debt will not help the economy when you have to borrow that money from the people you already owe huge amounts of money to. Only bringing jobs back to the U.S. will help. Making a NAFTA type agreement with Korea will not help the economy.

To understand what is going on look at what they do, not what they say.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-11-10 09:11 PM
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14. K&R . . . . Thanks.


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