Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Does it bug anyone else when media uses "cops" instead of "police"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
gmoney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 12:52 PM
Original message
Does it bug anyone else when media uses "cops" instead of "police"
I'm no authoritarian, but I think it just sounds unprofessional and "dumbed down" when media people refer to police as "cops" in general usage.

"Cops were called to the scene of the accident..." or "The suspect led the cops on a high-speed chase..." just grates on me for some reason. I hear this all the time on local radio and TV news.

Was just reading a piece about the tragic suicide of a young rape victim at Notre Dame. http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/11/25/notre-dames-shameful-punt-in-the-probe-of-lizzy-seebergs-sad-d/ And while the piece is very powerful, it has the politicsdaily editor-in-chief Melinda Henneberger doing it several times... "...10 days after telling friends and campus cops that she'd been sexually assaulted..." and "...the next day made a full report to the Notre Dame cops." and "...the county cops who were supposed to be investigating her death."

Now, she may be doing it to underscore her point that the police were not acting on the victim's allegations, and that their behavior is more like "Keystone Kops" than professional law enforcement, but to my ear, it undermines her position as a reporter/editor.

What's next? "There is a riot at the prison and 20 screws are being held hostage? Local pigs have been called in..."

Yes, I'd like the police to behave more respectably and respectfully of individuals, but is this helping the discourse?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 12:55 PM
Response to Original message
1. It's the continual degradation of the vernacular: "cops"; "kids" (not even "children" in death);
"guys" for both genders and all ages; "fame" to include "infamy" and "notoriety"; etc.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 12:57 PM
Response to Original message
2. No n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 12:57 PM
Response to Original message
3. still better than Bobbies..
because I always read it as Boobies..
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 12:58 PM
Response to Original message
4. No. On the list of things to get bugged about that should rank pretty low. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:04 PM
Response to Original message
5. No
I hope that doesn't keep you awake all night.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raschel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:08 PM
Response to Original message
6. It bothers me more that the media refers to our President as 'Obama' w/o the title.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
veganlush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:09 PM
Response to Original message
7. No.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:12 PM
Response to Original message
8. Henceforth, they shall be called "The Fuzz." n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:14 PM
Response to Original message
9. All slang dumbs down conversation.
During my medical transcription days I always changed the doctors' use of "he has three kids" to "he has three children". Kids are baby goats. Does that make me terribly stuffy?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Crazy Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:17 PM
Response to Reply #9
11. Not at all
Calling children kids gives little goats a bad name.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:15 PM
Response to Original message
10. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:20 PM
Response to Reply #10
12. That is a more accurate description of "that." That being said, Another way to view this "issue"
is that the nickname is an attempt to make something that is not human seem more human, and thus, less threatening.

Anyone with half a brain no longer has any "respect" for the law, our legal system, or the biological organisms that are the muscle and mouthpieces and arbiters of it.

Obeying "the law" is for suckers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
13. Media's omission of the truth bothers me more. nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:20 PM
Response to Original message
14. Origin of 'cop'
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:27 PM
Response to Original message
15. It's a step up from when we used to call them "Pigs"
I'm jesting. But you're right about what an editor or news person should say. They should know better and they say police officers or just police.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:28 PM
Response to Original message
16. Haha... You're asking the wrong crowd on here.
For a many DUers, calling police anything better than "fucking pigs" is proof you're an authoritarian asshole.

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:42 PM
Response to Original message
17. Of course. Dumbing down of news and need for sound bites vs actually investigating/reporting
doesn't help much except maybe advertisers.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
KittyLover Donating Member (79 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 01:45 PM
Response to Original message
18. I'm sorry, sir,
but I certainly see humor in the fact that someone using a username "gmoney" is commenting on the slang for police officer. It just strikes me a bit funny.

To me, it's just how some people talk. Language adapts. I'm sure there's going to be terms I have no freakin' clue about when I'm 20 years older. I may not like them either, but it will be what it will be. I can't change it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:01 PM
Response to Original message
19. A cop isn't necessarily a police officer.
A "police officer" would be a member of a police force. A "cop" could be any law enforcement officer, e.g. a sheriff's deputy. "LEO" is a good alternative to "cop".
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Shandris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:20 PM
Response to Original message
20. Doesn't bother me in the slightest.
Police and Law Enforcement and all the other titles are just that - titles to an occupation that has very little to do with doing anything to protect or serve me, and everything to do with following up after some crime has been committed. Traveling clerks with guns and the ability to make life miserable for anyone whenever they want to without the slightest fear of repercussion.

I don't wish ill on them (except the corrupt ones; unfortunately, that's the majority of them in my area) but I DO wish they'd do their job a hell of a lot farther away from me. Still, I'm unfailingly polite to them when I see one (God help you if you're not), but every single interaction with them results in leaving you with a feeling of 'What the FUCK is their problem?'. That they should 'command' respect is a travesty.

Cops they are, and cops they shall remain. At BEST.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:22 PM
Response to Original message
21. Nope.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
22. No, but that is a great pet peeve. You should unrec any thread which uses the term "cops" instead of
"police." Then you should post, "Unrec for 'dumbing down' the message board," unless of course the person places the word "cops" inside of quotes.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:23 PM
Response to Original message
23. Blame the media and entertainment: There's a show called "COPS."
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 02:26 PM by AspenRose
Whatcha gonna do (pun intended)? :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 02:56 PM
Response to Original message
24. It bothers me in that it is lazy and inspecific and serves the cops!
I want to know what department the are talking about, and their jo is accuracy. By the same token, it bothers me personally when people say 'the media' when they mean 'news media'. Because while reporters should report, others in the media should call them whatever they feel like calling them, comics, writers of drama, whoever is not in 'the news' should call them whatever, the heat, the man, NY's Swinest, Aunt Tilly, Barney Fife, whatever.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DemocratAholic Donating Member (156 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 04:19 PM
Response to Original message
25. word has evolved
Edited on Fri Nov-26-10 04:43 PM by DemocratAholic
You could rate every word and give it a value. A word that is vulgar never to be used in polite company could be a 1, and a word that is acceptable at all times is a 5. As language evolves, some words move up and down the scale. At one time "cop" was probably between 2-3 on this scale. It has now basically reached level 5. This word is now used by any person in any situation without sounding slang or vulgar. The word is used by politicians, priests, grandmothers...and cops. Nobody thinks of it as implying anything derogatory. Even if you, yourself, find it slang...you KNOW that other people who use it are not implying anything derogatory or trying to sound slang. Perhaps the word filled a void in our language. It is a more general term which is easier to say than...police officer, or police department. And yes, it does have a different sense to it, not as respectful, but it is not considered disrespectful either.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Puregonzo1188 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 04:42 PM
Response to Original message
26. No. It's a standard term.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Doc_Technical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 05:01 PM
Response to Original message
27. The dumbing down continues.
The use of "kinda" and sorta" is very disturbing.
I think most of these people are college graduates and
they say things such as:
"The woman is kinda pregnant"
or
"The victim is sorta dead"

Greeting each other by saying "Hey",
reminds me of the first opening scenes
of the movie "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight" (1971)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DawgHouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 05:27 PM
Response to Original message
28. I prefer the term "copper", with a nod to James Cagney. n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Rochester Donating Member (486 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 06:22 PM
Response to Original message
29. I'm as likely to refer to them as pigs as anything else, so I don't think anything of this
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 06:37 PM
Response to Original message
30. Well, the police have generally become "unprofessional and dumbed down", so no. n/t
When they go back to being public servants, instead of thug enforcers, I will be among the first to defend them.

Obligatory disclaimer; There are good individuals and there may even be good departments left in the ranks of the American police forces. In fact, we had a great family friend that was a cop in Denver. He was pushed off the force in the 80's for resisting and objecting to the militarization of the department.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:26 PM
Response to Original message
31. I'm generally irked by the increasing informality of the media and the
creeping inclusion of slang terms. My primary peeve is "busted" to mean broken, but cops/police and kids/children are also annoying. Still, I guess we can be grateful they haven't gone completely over to IM- and texting-speak (yet)...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
madinmaryland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 08:48 PM
Response to Original message
32. No. At least until the repukes stop calling us the Democrat Party.
:mad:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Nye Bevan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:41 PM
Response to Original message
33. "Cops" has become pretty standard usage, even here on DU.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-26-10 10:45 PM
Response to Original message
34. No not really
It's a term that goes way back, doesn't bother me.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 01:56 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC