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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 06:44 PM Original message |
Wait, the President can actually do somthing(s) to advance progressive causes |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
1. What's amazing about criticisms of Obama is that Obama is doing much of what is in that report. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Irony, you are doing it right |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Just read the section on consumer protection, and it advises Obama to do exactly what he is already |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. And what about the other sections? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. Here's what the report said about DADT in a nutshell. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Mmm-hmmm sure it is, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. With respect to DADT, the report says what he should do IN THE FUTURE. Not what he should have done |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. SHOULD DO, YES THAT IS WHAT I"VE BEEN SAYING! |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:34 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Many of its recommendations cannot (or should not, according to the report) be acted upon now. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. And some of it is about the present also. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. You are using the report to criticize the president, when the report does not imply that. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
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bettyellen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
45. no you implied he "chooses to be pwerless" and so doesn't do any of this |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. The internet is a very convenient place for pretenders. The only way to differentiate them from peop |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. And John Podesta is now a pretender? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. The issue isn't that John Podesta is a pretender. The issue is that you are mischaracterizing the |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. You are pegging that irony meter time and again in this thread. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. "this is a report of what Obama should be doing" You can say that over and over again, |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. THANK YOU, FINALLY! |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. I have been saying that throughout this entire thread. YOU are the one claiming it is about what he |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Oh, geez, and there I had some hope for you, nevermind |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. "He isn't, he simply chooses to be powerless." |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. And again you are taking statements out of context |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
47. The issue is that all kinds of pretenders come on here and bitch about the President and don't DO |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. Is the President the only one who is responsible for making change happen? |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. No, but he is (usually) solely responsible for making change happen in the executive branch. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. Umm, I think you had better broaden that scope of yours, |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. No, actually, he isn't. Just because presidents have made change in the past with different Congress |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Umm, stop reading for speed and start reading for content |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Bullshit. I specifically AGREED that the President is responsible for using executive power. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. No, what I'm disagreeing with you on is that you want to limit the scope |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Maybe we're just confused over definitions? When the President bypasses Congress and does it in a |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
39. And we're not talking about legislation here, so please stop trying to make this into a discussion |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:43 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. You are the one that responded to my post DEFENDING you by saying I needed to "broaden my scope." |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
32. Well then WTF difference does it make if we have a Progressive... |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Are you sure you responded to the right post? |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 08:40 PM Response to Reply #34 |
46. I'm sure I didn't I'm trying to be incognegro on DU here @ work sorry. |
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BzaDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. Do you understand the difference between a necessary condition and a sufficient condition? |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Umm yes, he is responsible for making change happen, in fact that is what he ran on. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. +1000 nt |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. K & R nt |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. WTF people. The House could have passed a bill with the PO in it. |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
21. The point of that report is to |
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xultar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:32 PM Response to Original message |
27. WTF...WAIT. Isn't that why everyone wanted Obama in the first place... |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
40. I don't think that was it. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 07:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. "What a President can do has nothing to do with what a President will do. " |
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PufPuf23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. We need a WPA/CCC/CETA and Job Training Partnership Act type programs |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-17-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. we sure do...there`s a lot of us with a lot of experience... |
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