Fox News just called him "Mister Obama"

[mahina]

In the crawl at the bottom of the screen. Something like "After returning from 10 day trip to Asia Mister Obama...."

Do you ever recall seeing anything about Mister Bush? Spelled out, even... M i s t e r.

Distrespectful and shameful. I'm not sure who to write to about it, but that is shameful. I even called * President Bush, and he was and remains a war criminal.

[opihimoimoi]

1. GOPer meme...always Denigrate the Opposition....always...

Bullies do this all the time....

[Hannah Bell]

2. "Mister" is an accepted usage for the President. Because we're not a aristocracy,

supposedly, but a democracy.

The "Mister" is commonly used, and has been forever. It's not derogatory.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/15/opinion/15tue1.html

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/04/opinion/04kristof.html?_r=1&scp=9&sq=mr%20roosevelt&st=cse

Pick something else to get upset about.

[Retrograde]

4. It was good enough for George

Washington, that is: Bush the Second insisted on President Bush or Mr. President.

I think it's acceptable to refer to him as Mr. Obama, but I think Fox agrees with GWB: they're doing it to be insulting.

[Hannah Bell]

6. it doesn't matter what they "think" until dems react to it. that's what they want;

to blow up a traditional, acceptable form of address into drama. who cares what those sick fucks think? not important. JOBS are important, TAXES are important, SOCIAL SECURITY is important.

NYT leads with "Mr Bush" during the reign of Bush 1"

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/15/opinion/15tue1.html

Last time this non-issue appeared on DU, I googled a bunch of links to support my statement. not going to bother this time.

[doc03]

42. I usually heard "W" called the Commander -in- Chief on Faux n/t

[Tx4obama]

9. What are you talking about? Those links use 'Mr.' not 'Mister.

I did a word search on both of the links you provided and the word spelt 'Mister' is not found on either of them, only found is 'Mr.'

[Hannah Bell]

10. oh, please, don't be silly. it's the same word, one is just an abbreviation.

fox news used "mister" on tv -- did they abbreviate it, or use the full word? how would you know, IT'S AUDIO.

ridiculous nonsense. democrats deserve to lose if this is the level of their "critique". it's like third grade. bullies want you to take offense at their bullshit, didn't you ever learn that. it makes you look like you are stupid & care about their petty insults & their petty motives, i.e. it makes you look WEAK.

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-11885964.html

[Tx4obama]

12. I'm not being silly. Tell me other than Mister Rogers' Neighborhood where you've seen it used? n/t

Edited to change "you" to "where you've"

[Hannah Bell]

14. I JUST LINKED YOU.

John Steele (Time-Life Reporter): “When Governor Faubus left the President’s office, I got the impression of a deeply concerned, deeply worried man. He received a gracious Presidential leave taking which Mister Eisenhower thanked him for coming and wished him best of luck. Orville Faubus then walked slowly down the green slope to the waiting helicopter. The problem so easy to discuss in the cool of the President’s office, would be, one felt, far harder to solve in the emotion packed atmosphere of Little Rock Arkansas.”
http://newstalgia.crooksandliars.com/gordonskene/newstalgia-reference-room-portrait-orv


Here is a VOICE OF AMERICA transcript, do you really think they were using "disrespectful" forms in their transcripts?

VOICE 2:

In the spring of nineteen-fifty-two, Mister Truman named the man he wanted the party to nominate. His choice was Adlai Stevenson, governor of Illinois.

Mister Stevenson, however, said he was not interested in any job except the one he had...

So, President Truman and other party leaders discussed different candidates. Each one, however, seemed to have some political weakness.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:EemuNDUUtF4J:www.voanews.com/learningenglish/home/a-23-a-2002-07-29-6-1-83111822.html+%22mister+eisenhower%22&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[Tx4obama]

16. That book came out over 55 years ago. You'll have to do better than that. n/t

[Hannah Bell]

19. oh, it used to be ok, but now it's not? when did it change? link?

It happens with each new president and occasionally in between: Some people take offense at the long-standing practice of CBS News and other broadcast journalists referring to the President with the honorific "Mister."

(AP)Some misinterpret it as a sign of disrespect. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, entirely the opposite is true.

CBS News policy dictates that we never refer to the president by just his last name. We can do that for everyone else and even other world leaders – but not the American president and his predecessors. It's meant as a sign of respect...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-4772225-503544.html


Now will you stop spreading this bullshit that makes Democrats look like wussy little ignorant babies?

[Tx4obama]

13. Read the OP up above the author said it was spelt out on the screen's bottom crawl. n/t

[Hannah Bell]

15. read the links in the post you just responded to. spelt out, abbreviated, spoken,

IT'S NOT DISRESPECTFUL.

I can only conclude this meme is being spread by Republicans to make Democrats look stupid & ignorant. "Mr." is the abbreviation for "Mr." mister or mr, either is an acceptable term of 3rd-person address for the president.

BECAUSE HE IS A CITIZEN, NOT A KING. BECAUSE WE LIVE IN A DEMOCRACY.

This was discussed at the foundation of the nation.

http://books.google.com/books?id=ajLBlZwwB0IC&pg=PA295&lpg=PA295&dq=%22mister+nixon%22&source=bl&ots=6l_7m4Ft98&sig=g8CARyhY7MW-ai1L-be4KzfQHI0&hl=en&ei=EfjgTN3OAoOCsQPAr6XFCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBIQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=%22mister%20nixon%22&f=false

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,874997,00.html

[Tx4obama]

18. No news channel uses the word spelt 'Mister' when referring to Pres Obama - or in the recent decades

except now for FoxNews !

LOL

[Hannah Bell]

20. you don't know what you're talking about.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-4772225-503544.html

It happens with each new president and occasionally in between: Some people take offense at the long-standing practice of CBS News and other broadcast journalists referring to the President with the honorific "Mister."

(AP)Some misinterpret it as a sign of disrespect. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, entirely the opposite is true.

CBS News policy dictates that we never refer to the president by just his last name. We can do that for everyone else and even other world leaders – but not the American president and his predecessors. It's meant as a sign of respect.


http://books.google.com/books?id=AcT56NcvOzUC&pg=PA344&dq=%22mister+reagan%22+president&hl=en&ei=OfzgTK3nKYmisAOjpJ2jCg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCsQ6AEwADgK#v=onepage&q=%22mister%20reagan%22%20president&f=false

[Tx4obama]

22. You are misunderstanding.

It is one thing to say Mr. Obama or Mr. Barack Obama verbally,
but it is another for them to use the word spelt 'Mister' on the screen crawl, instead of the normal 'Mr.'
It is highly disrespectful to use the word when spelt 'Mister.
And it is mainly used in 'print' when making fun of a president comparing him to Mister Rodger's Neighborhood - like they did of President Clinton when they made fun of him for being on TV too much and they said "Mister Clinton's Neighorhood".
Now I hope that makes it clear.

Good night and have fun ;)

[Hannah Bell]

24. link for that bullshit? link? link? the abbreviation is respectful, but if you spell out the

word it's disrespectful?

mister rogers?! bald-faced nonsense. bald-faced duplicitous nonsense.

who thinks of mister rogers when they see the word "mister"? maybe someone who hasn't stopped watching the show yet.

jesus christ.

voice of america again, not 50 years old:

Mister Reagan had a bullet in his left lung, close to his heart. But he showed his sense of humor at the hospital. As the president was taken into the operating room he said he hoped all the doctors were Republicans.

http://www.voanews.com/learningenglish/home/a-23-2007-07-28-voa2-83134432.html

[Nye Bevan]

48. Heh. So even though "Mr" is an abbreviation for "Mister", it's OK to say "Mr" but not "Mister"?

Where are you pulling these new rules out of? Oh, I think I know.

[Obamanaut]

34. is 'Pres' preferred over 'President'? Is one good, the other bad? Is

there anything of substance to get wadded panties over rather than 'mister' or 'mr'?

[WinkyDink]

43. AFTER an initial use of "President", not in lieu of.

[uppityperson]

3. Yes, they did refer to shrub as "mr bush". I started doing so after hearing Peter Jennings

report on him thusly. I think the freepers were quite upset about the disrespect and shamefulness of that too.

[Hannah Bell]

7. wasn't disrespectful then, isn't now. a non-issue. why are people wasting time with it,

likely just to divert from things that actually matter.

[Raine]

5. It's very acceptable to refer to the President

as Mister. I remember the Mister being used as far back as I can recall which is going back to Nixon. There are plenty of legitimate things to get upset about Faux over, this isn't one of them.

edit: changed one word

[Smarmie Doofus]

8. Mr. is OK. n/t

[Tx4obama]

11. But 'Mister' is not. n/t

[Hannah Bell]

17. link?

[guardian]

60. who says? n/t

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[Jamastiene]

23. That is not usually a sign of disrespect.

Many called Bush "Mister Bush." There is even an article about this very topic on CBS' web site:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-4772225-503544.html

Of course, coming from the propagandists at Faux, what do you really expect? The fact that they are not calling him something much worse is probably a minor miracle...coming from them.

What are you even doing watching Faux News? Don't you know that is bad for your mental and physical health? I'm sure if a study was ever done, Faux News would be proven to raise blood pressure and stress levels to dangerously high levels when viewed by Democrats and other sane, logical people. Really, for your health, I implore you to please consider curbing that disgusting habit. Friends don't let friends watch Faux.

[Tx4obama]

25. Read the article you posted the link for.

IN the article when the word is used in front of the president's name it is spelled "Mr. Obama", NOT 'Mister Obama'.
There is a difference.
The article is talking about 'saying' the word, there is a radio example there even.
When in print it's a different story - the article even states: On first reference, it's "President Obama." But on second reference, it's "Mr. Obama."

See there is NO 'M-i-s-t-e-r Obama' there - it is MR. Obama ;)

[Hannah Bell]

26. voice of america in their tribute to reagan:

http://www.voanews.com/learningenglish/home/a-23-2007-07-28-voa2-83134432.html

Mister Reagan had a bullet in his left lung, close to his heart. But he showed his sense of humor at the hospital. As the president was taken into the operating room he said he hoped all the doctors were Republicans.


I'm sure the first thing we all thought of was mister rogers.

Writing out "mister" rather than abbreviating it doesn't make it disrespectful.

Pushing this bullshit makes democrats look stupid & weak. Is that your motive?

[Tx4obama]

28. They used MISTER to make fun of Clinton...

Mister Clinton's Neighborhood

(Peter Jennings) seemed to view the whole assignment with condescending disdain. In the opening segment, he strolled into the Oval Office where (Bill Clinton) was in shirt sleeves behind the presidential desk. When it was time to leave for the East Room, Jennings said to Clinton, "So, why don't you put on your blazer?" Who is Jennings to tell the president what to do?

In fact, twice during the question period Clinton had to come to Jennings's assistance when Jennings screwed up. A young woman named Ellie said her question was "sort of serious," and Jennings said it would have to wait until after another commercial. But when the commercial ended and Jennings reappeared, he ignored the girl and went on to dumb questions about Socks the Cat. Clinton finally had to remind him that Ellie hadn't had her chance.

Later, Clinton had to cue a taped piece about homelessness when Jennings forgot. Throughout, Jennings seemed subtly snide, as if jealous that a younger man like Clinton was president. Maybe he's jealous that Clinton also seems to be a better broadcaster. Clinton could probably have handled the whole show with no help. Then it would have looked like a campaign appearance, of course. But heck, it did anyway.

http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/washingtonpost/access/72116735.html?dids=72116735:72116735&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT

p.s. Now I'm off to bed, goodnight.

[Hannah Bell]

29. do you always adopt bullies' memes? just because a bully says there's

something wrong with wearing purple doesn't mean there is.

only cowards or bullies' helpers would agree with that proposition.

"So please bear that in mind, when you hear the phrase 'Mister Bush.' No disrespect is meant or intended. Just the opposite."

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500803_162-2265934-500803.html?source=search_story

You've really got to stop watching Fucked Noise. I can see that you've adopted their tactics, because you keep repeating this meme & ignore all contradictory evidence you're linked to. just repeating the false assertion over & over & over again, despite repeated presentation of material evidence to the contrary. your claim is absurd on its face: the abbreviation "mr." is respectful, but the full form of the same word is not. it's absurd, it's tea-bagger level absurd. yet you just keep repeating it.

[Hannah Bell]

27. Read this: 'So please bear that in mind, when you hear the phrase "Mister Bush." No disrespect is

meant or intended. Just the opposite.'

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500803_162-2265934-500803.html?source=search_story


Now go to bed like you said you were.

fox news is playing you or you are playing someone else.

[CJCRANE]

30. The OP is about written titles not spoken titles.

In the article they use "Mister Bush" in reference to the words as spoken not written (see the quote marks).

In the article they also use Mr. Bush as the standard written form (note - no quote marks).

[DirkGently]

46. And moreover ...

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-4772225-503544.html

It happens with each new president and occasionally in between: Some people take offense at the long-standing practice of CBS News and other broadcast journalists referring to the President with the honorific "Mister."


(AP)Some misinterpret it as a sign of disrespect. Nothing could be further from the truth. In fact, entirely the opposite is true.

CBS News policy dictates that we never refer to the president by just his last name. We can do that for everyone else and even other world leaders – but not the American president and his predecessors. It's meant as a sign of respect.

[old mark]

31. "Mister" is an improvement...most "news" programs refer to him as "Obama",

with no title or honorific at all...


Mr. mark

[jonnyblitz]

32. what do you prefer King Obama?

:eyes:

[Obamanaut]

37. Only if 'king' has an abbreviation. Whole words are not ok. nt

[BlueIris]

33. While I agree it's disrespectful and inappropriate, this happens all the time.

It happened to Bush while he was president, and all kinds of media did it to President Clinton. It's rude, if you ask me, and not entirely accurate, but technically, the president of our country is still a "mister," too. Still, I feel your irritation. I don't like him any more than FOX does, but they should respect the office.

[yellowwood]

35. You Watch Fox?

Why? It's poison. There's nothing there to watch that could possibly enlighten you or make your life better.

That goes, to a lesser degree, for all mainstream media news. The others are just more subtle.

You are computer literate. There are plenty of sites that are better news sources.

Listen to NPR radio

They want viewers. Don't do what they want.

[Obamanaut]

36. If you had heard rather than read 'mister', would it have gone through

your mind that they were saying the whole word rather than the abbreviation just to be disrespectful?

You should indeed write to everyone at FOX about this - even FOX needs a chuckle from time to time?

Why were you watching FOX news?

[zbdent]

38. I remember a reporter asking W a question prefaced with "Mister Bush"

(okay, it wasn't in print, but ...)

He quickly reprimanded the reporter, demanding (with his shit-eating smirk) to be referred to by "President Bush".

That's the standard I'm saying that the news should refer to The President ... since they demanded such respect for the turd ...

[musette_sf]

77. + 1

perzackley

[VMI Dem]

39. What's wrong with that?

:shrug:

[HipChick]

40. The level of disrespect shown to President Obama by the media

is beyond amazing

[doc03]

41. They are improving over what they usually call him n/t

[DirkGently]

44. Willing to deny Fox the benefit of the doubt, but I'm not sure I see the insult here. Examples?

[Rebubula]

45. Ahhh...Poutrage

A) Fox News
B) It is acceptable to refer to the President as Mister. Spelled out or otherwise
C) Seriously - you got your knickers in a bunch over this?

[Dreamer Tatum]

47. As if Bush never misted anythiing. What a bunchof racists.

(seriously...get over yourself)

[Name removed]

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[uppityperson]

50. What does "all butt-hurt" mean? Thanks.

wanting to clarify as that could be taken a couple different ways.

[slackmaster]

51. An inappropriately strong negative emotional reaction to a perceived personal insult

:hi:

[uppityperson]

52. I got that, I meant etiology.

spanking? sex? sitting on it too long? etc

[slackmaster]

54. I don't know

What difference does it make, if you understood what I meant?

[uppityperson]

56. It is obviously an insult, wondering if it is a homophobic one.

You had your chance to explain what you meant and you haven't. It is commonly used as a homophobic insult. Now I wonder if you care.

That is what difference it makes.

[slackmaster]

57. Your line of questioning is clearly argumentative. I think you are just looking for a fight.

I hope you find one.

[Xithras]

58. The term "butt hurt" is a deivation of "a kick in the pants" or "taking it to the cheeks"

It's "acting like someone kicked your butt" when nothing really happened.

I'm not a fan of the term and don't use it, but I've heard my students use it and wondered the same thing you did. It's roots aren't homophobic, and I've never heard it used in a homophobic way.

[uppityperson]

69. Thank you. I asked because I wondered and didn't want to assume.

Thanks.

[Iggo]

62. You're wrong.

It is NOT commonly used as a homophobic insult.

"Butt-hurt" means the person is acting like a child who just got spanked.

[Kurt_and_Hunter]

53. It is perfectly proper.

There are things in the world to be upset about.

This is not one of them.

[Iggo]

55. The BBC calls him that all day.

Sounds okay to me.

[slackmaster]

61. When they say it, it sounds like "Mister Obamer" to me

But I'm not British.

[Odin2005]

64. Intrusive R

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intrusive_R

[Iggo]

65. It has a name? Yes!!!

[slackmaster]

68. Thank you so much for that link!

I knew there had to be a technical explanation for it.

:loveya:

[Shining Jack]

59. Domo arigato,

Mister Obamo.

[nadinbrzezinski]

63. Actually that is proper use

In writing about the POTUS you refer to him the first time as POTUS and later as Mr. Perfectly fine.

And yes, they did use the term Mr. Too.... and he has been referred as Mr. from early on.

It is in the AP Style manual as well.

[librechik]

66. Mister Bush Mister Obama both totally acceptable and both used very frequently.

There is no disrespect in calling either one Mister. Quite the reverse.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

67. That's not uncommon. As much as I hate Limbaugh, O'Reilly and that ilk, I have heard them

refer to the president as "President Obama" on many occasions.

[mahina]

70. Okeydokey

This is my first visit back since I posted that. It looked really disrespectful to me, as if they were refusing to acknowledge that he is the President.

I see there are others who disagree, so I'll reflect on that. Thanks.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

75. I'm not saying that they don't disrespect him because they do. But I"m just being honest... n/t

[proud2BlibKansan]

71. Didn't Keith Olberman call him Mister Bush?

[John Kerry VonErich]

72. Gotta take your side

President is equal to the prefixes like Dr. or Fth. Would you call you physician Mr.?

[Iggo]

73. Mister President.

Now what?

:rofl:

[John Kerry VonErich]

79. That was George Washington's idea

:rofl:

[derby378]

74. I tried very hard to avoid calling Herr Decider "President"

He stole the election - twice, and thus was never duly elected as far as history is concerned. He's like the antipopes of the Vatican, only Bush was our antiPresident.

[Renew Deal]

76. "Mister Obama" is better than what they normally call him.

I think the media has been too lax when discussing the last 2 presidents. There's too much "Bush" and "Obama" even from mainstream outlets.

[cherish44]

78. well Mister Obama isn't what they really want to call him at Fox

They'd rather call him "Boy"

[Kalyke]

80. Perfectly acceptable by AP reporting standards.

Please find something else to wad you panties/shorts.