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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:55 PM
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Pelosi for President.
Well, OK, she's a little long in the tooth, but like a fine wine she gets better with age. (Reagan, on the other hand, turned into vinegar on the wine rack.)
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:04 PM
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1. Regan turned to dreck
The vinegar was to hide the stench.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:10 PM
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2. She had a lot of us with Pelosi 2007 stickers on our cars, until she made it clear...
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 09:10 PM by cascadiance
... that she wasn't interested in getting the job *at that time* when it was appropriate to take charge. But she didn't want to prosecute the criminals then.

I think personally I'd like to revive many of our campaigns for your avatar Russ Feingold. He has a lot less to lose than anyone else (Bernie Sanders is running in 2012 for his Senate seat), and would be awesome as president. Many of us tried to talk him in to it earlier. Maybe now he'd listen to us that that might have been a better long term choice had he taken it then.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:22 PM
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3. Yup. I tried to talk him into it in 2007.
Incidentally, Time for Change is another Feingold enthusiast who would like to see him run.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:46 PM
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5. Many said that him not being married would work against him... Perhaps we can ...
... work on that now to help him get "hitched up", much like the sentiment earlier pushed Dennis Kucinich to get it done.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 10:29 PM
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6. The main problem is that he's been married a few too many times.
Or, rather, divorced too many times: twice.

Somehow, I don't think that would matter to the people who might otherwise be likely to vote for him.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:51 AM
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23. Well, I've never been married
Edited on Sat Nov-13-10 12:00 PM by undeterred
...so if we got married I could bring his average down.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:11 PM
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25. I'd be happy to introduce you.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 11:21 PM
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8. Wow! I never knew who that was in that little avatar! nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 11:57 PM
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9. My Senator for 18 years.
This was a year of some rather awful changes. Dave Obey, my Representative, retired and the little blue dog who ran to fill his seat lost. The entire WI government flipped from Dem to R: both houses & the Governor. Crap. It's gonna be tough times in this neck of the woods. The incoming Guv has already cancelled the proposed high-speed rail & wants to devote the $$ to highway building (which by Federal law he won't be abe to--idiot!!), so we'll lose the associated Fed funding & jobs. He has also fired a shot across the bow of the state employees' union (AFSCME). I sneer at all the state employees who voted for him because they were pissed at the previous Guv for no raises.

I expect the poor to be hurt the worst, though. We were pretty good at covering low SES people with health care--a state program called Badger Care supplemented Medical Assistance & coverage was much better than most other states. The R's will no doubt destroy that in their first budget. The UW was also a primary center for stem cell research, which the R's have already announced a plan to halt. And the new Guv is a global warming denier (sunspot theorist).
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:20 AM
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10. Oh my God - it's like you moved to a totally different State! Maybe once
these things become apparent to the voters they'll bust their butts getting Feingold back in. His loss made me the most sad. I'm so sorry. :(
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 10:48 AM
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13. "A different state" indeed.
A state of collapse. A state of desperation, maybe.

I remember when Jesse Ventura was elected governor in MN. A psychology intern who commuted to my clinic in Wisconsin from Minneapolis summarized his feelings thus: "Last night I went to sleep in Minnesota. This morning I woke up in a cartoon."



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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:03 AM
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16. Except you woke up in a nightmare.
:hug:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:12 AM
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19. Exactly. (nt)
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 10:53 AM
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15. Feingold/Franken
My dream ticket. :loveya:
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:14 AM
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20. Damn, that would work for me.
A total impossibility, though. Two midwestern Jews who are universally hated by the Corporate Overlords.
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cilla4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 09:39 PM
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4. I said something like this earlier today!
Pelosi for President! She's the wo(man)!
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 11:17 PM
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7. I could go for that. She's sharp and knows how to play the game, and she fights
for what's right. Don't know how old she is, but she's still tough.

Wow! Just looked her up on Wiki to see how old she is (70) and she and I have the same birthday! (I'm easily excited :7)
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alanquatermass Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:14 AM
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11. I'd vote for her in a heartbeat!!!
Hells, yeah!

Her deficiencies as a candidate (age, IQ, etc.) are MORE than offset by her commitment to Doing The Right Thing, whatever the cost to herself politically (Healthcare, anyone? It would NEVER have passed without her!)

So here's hoping it is Barack again in 2012 -- and PELOSI IN 2016!!!

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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 10:24 AM
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12. Welcome to DU alanquartermass!
:hi:
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alanquatermass Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:32 PM
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38. Hi yourself!!!!
nt
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 10:51 AM
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14. IQ?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:15 PM
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27. A search on the username is, well, enlightening. nt
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alanquatermass Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 01:46 PM
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31. According to Wikipedia, the "Jackpine"...
-- is a North American pine with its native range in Canada east of the Rocky Mountains from Northwest Territories to Nova Scotia, and the northeast of the United States from Minnesota to Maine.

So if I had to guess, I'd say our "radical" friend's a New Englander!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:58 PM
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34. You're just precious. nt
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alanquatermass Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:19 PM
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35. Thanks, Blonde! Right back to ya!
Oh, and I voted too!!!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:33 PM
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32. I looked. I wasn't surprised.
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alanquatermass Donating Member (318 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:27 PM
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37. Was I right about New England?!!!
True story: I once lost a wallet at the Bar Harbor Cleaning Village (a laundromat in Maine, natch) on a bike trip throughout New England back in 1979. That was in July. When I made my way back there in August I swung by the Cleaning Village, not expecting much, and there was my wallet -- in the Lost 'N Found bin -- all bills accounted for -- ONE MONTH LATER!

Pretty amazing.

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:09 AM
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17. Nope!
:eyes: Pelosi is off the table!
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:09 AM
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18. Then she can not only take impeachment off the table, she can flat out pardon war criminals too
BRILLIANT!!
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:11 PM
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24. Is that worse than what we have?
Especially if she doesn't roll over on SocSec and Medicare? Or if she gets our stupid butts out of middle-eastern wars?
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:17 AM
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21. I just hope she can remain minority leader. They are trying to run
her off.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 11:48 AM
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22. Feingold for President.
Seriously.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:14 PM
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26. Seriously.
A few months ago & was dissing that idea, but it looks better all the time. But how would he survice the onslaught of Citizens United money? Could he even make a Primary showing? Wisconsin likes eccentric mavericks (think Bill Proxmire); I'm not sure the rest of the country does.
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:30 PM
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30. I think the whole country is getting sick of elections
based on big money. Obama's candidacy was based on the fact that he made big promises and could raise a lot of money. Nobody really knew what he stood for. Now we do.

If the American people ever really decide they want to elect someone who is serious about ending wars, following the constitution, reducing spending, creating a decent social safety net, and restoring America's relations with other countries- they will choose someone who is a known entity like Russ Feingold.

I don't know if the American people will grow up in my lifetime, but I hope they do.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:16 PM
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28. Worthy of more than a little consideration, IMHO. She's sharp as a tack
and tough as rebar.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 12:22 PM
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29. I din't care for what she said what was on the table
Other than that... she'd work... but about the same table
that I didn't like.

But lets deal with what we have to and not a fantasy.
The US is compromised, that's we lost one of my favorite Senators
and one of my favorite Congressman.

They thinned the ranks
of what's available that speaks at least the truth
of what can or can not be on the table, and even those
were just two in the two houses of cards, where the stack is decked.




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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:40 PM
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33. I understand and am in emotional sympathy with you.
However, at the time, a lot of people whom I respect, like David Obey, backed her on this decision, and I don't think he loved Bush any more than I do. Nor, I'm sure, does Nancy. Sometimes decisions are made for good and sufficient reasons even though they cannot speak their reasons.

And I really started this thread more as a tribute to Nancy for standing with the liberal cause in these tough times than as a serious proposal. I do think she's very competent and effective within the range of what she has been given to work with. That, no doubt, is what infuriates the right-wing Natterati about her.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 03:27 PM
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36. She needs to Stay
I see no one else in the ranks of power that will do as well as minority leader
for the left.

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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 05:37 PM
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39. In reality, I agree.
I certainly hope she stays.
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