Why in the HELL would we give the GOP an immediate win on the Tax Cuts???

[KansasVoter]

I feel like I am living in crazy land!!!

Why would we even THINK about giving the GOP a early win and extending the tax cuts on the rich?

Is the any better way to say 'The GOP can get things done???"?

Why is this even a possibility?

[Vincardog]

1. Since the deficit is OBVIOUSLY the peoples top priority THERE SHOULD BE NO MORE TAX CUTS

There should actually by an immediate raise to 45% in the top tax rate and an elimination of 50% of the business deductions to oil and gas companies

[RKP5637]

2. Because the democrats in congress are weak, ineffective and afraid of the republicans! And

paid off.

[KansasVoter]

3. I agree with that

[ixion]

7. That is their job

To play the subservient lackey to the rethug bluster, as we careen over the cliff at 100 miles an hour.

[RKP5637]

9. Yep, in fact the democrats are so obedient to the rethugs, they even took

down the guard rails ahead of time.

[Poboy]

10. This is the answer. -nt

[treestar]

What support is there for that statement?

What do they fear from the Republicans? Getting beat up?

[RKP5637]

31. Observation! Lack of conviction by some. With more Blue Dogs gone this might change. Take

LBJ, for example, and compare the current democrats to him.

[Joanne98]

4. It think it was Bernake. If you noticed on Wednesday the Fed fired it's last bullet..

QE2 and the stock market yawned because that was already baked into the cake. SO the next day the tax cuts were announced. I think Bernake called him and asked him to do it.

Also the run up yesterday was probably a short squeeze. It won't last long know matter how much CNBC lies and cheers!

The conservatives have all stimilis blocked and Bernake's out of bullets.

Cutting spending right now seals our fate.

These are desperate moves.

Not that I'm supporting the tax cuts. I'm against ALL of them. They add 4 trillion to the debt and won't help that much. We need more government spending but as we know that's over.

Wall Street, the hedge funds, the Fed and the Chamber are killing us!

We're fucked!

[RKP5637]

14. I'm predicting the Great Depression all over again, but this time the monied will

plan it so they do not lose significant assets. One can feel it in the air. This country is severely floundering and as you said, "Fed fired it's last bullet.."

I guess the next step is to hack the hell out of any program that helps the people. It will be done under propaganda in the same of saving the country and our great democracy. A great democracy, what a joke.

[DURHAM D]

5. It was the plan all along - but Tuesday made it easier. nt

[Starry Messenger]

27. Bingo. n/t

[Jim__]

6. Really stupid way to negotiate, isn't it.

Well, we might give you everything you want. But (shaking fist), you're going to have to ask for it.

[vi5]

8. Because elected democrats are weak and cowardly...

and it seems the more power they have within the party the weaker and more cowardly they are.

[AnArmyVeteran]

16. We can transplant hearts, ears, and fingers, but not GUTS or BALLS!

Is rather have someone with half a heart and filled with courage, than people who are heartless and mindless (republicans) who are the biggest bullies in Washington.

[Edweird]

24. I think it's more like that we elected Democrats that are actually republicans.

[treestar]

25. I'm sick of this statement. Prove it.

Political realities are not a matter of bravery.

If they were brave what would happen?

[vi5]

34. B.S.

There's absolutely no reason they can't play as much a game of hardball as the Republicans do. They just choose not to. I think that's cowardly and weak. And apparently a good deal of people agree.

If they were brave then they'd stand for something and maybe actually motivate people. And bravery is not just passing or not passing legislation. It's pushing back when you're pushed. It's playing the media game the same way Republicans do. It's kicking and screaming your way out in front and setting narratives rather than following them like pathetic lap dogs.

Again, you disagree. Fine. I'll be able to sleep at night with that knowledge and I'm sure you will too.

[AnArmyVeteran]

11. It would be like Obama giving vasoline just before...

Giving them a huge win on tax cuts will be like a huge shovel full of dirt on Obama's presidency.

[Better Today]

12. because it has become a proud tradition for the Democrats to appear

as weak and wishy washy as the Republicans portray them as being.

[Stinky The Clown]

13. I have a theory as to why

Sharing it would violate community rules.

[glitch]

17. Me too. nt

[kath]

28. Stinky, now I'm really curious,

and wondering what rules it would violate (guess I'm may not be up on the rules as I could be.), and what your theory is.

PM?

So sick of the Dems (at this point the better term might be "so-called Dems") capitulating over and over and over and over again.
I'll say it for the third or fourth time --
If you vote to extend tax cuts for the rich, you are NO Democrat. Period. Line in the sand.

[RKP5637]

32. Exactly, "so-called Dems." We have dems today, AKA Blue Dogs, for example, that are only

dems by name, these are not the old time democrats. I think in 2008 many voting were expecting FDR and LBJ type democrats.

[JerseygirlCT]

15. I know. It feels like the immediate concessions

Max Baucus made before the negotiations even began.

Do we never learn?

[DirkGently]

18. Seems like a political gimme to point out the hypocrisy here

The Republicans were all in lockstep on this little nugget of illogic on election night. It goes something like this:

1. Reinstating the self-expired Bush tax cuts for the rich is not a new tax cut, it's avoiding "raising taxes."

2. Avoiding "raising taxes" on "anyone" will somehow "grow the economy."

3. Please do not look behind the curtain at the $700 billion increase to the deficit this will cause.

It's another version of Reagan's voodoo trickle down economic theories, which never worked in the first place, and which even Reagan began backing off on in his second term. Rand Paul had something similar to say about how "We all work for rich people, so 'hurting' rich people 'hurts' everyone."

Unbelievable.

We're not capable of spelling this out to the American public? Deficit issues are a dishonest ploy every time the GOP hauls them out. THEY are the ones who have created the largest deficits, time and again. They won't cut defense spending, and won't stop giving tax breaks to every rich person and oil company they can find, but still manage to win the message war that these are Democratic Party deficits?

And Democrats need to get firmly behind cutting *defense spending* and ENDING the wars. There's your "discretionary spending" right there. How in the hell did it become America's job to eliminate radical Islam from the entire world by military force?

If we don't, we're going to be told that we need to cut SS and Medicare and infrastructure spending -- i.e., anything that helps the people as a whole and doesn't make a profit -- while taxes simply become (more of) a way to funnel wealth from the poor and middle class to corporate interests.

[emulatorloo]

19. Then call your senators and reps. Nothing has happened yet other thAn a meeting is planned n/t

[tom_paine]

20. There are only two choices for answers, or a combination of the two.

1) Our Democratic "Leadership" is weak, incompetent and more under the spell of the RW Lie Machine than Teabaggers.

2) They are partially or fully complicit that (said in the fast talking end-of-radio commercial style), "Taxes and tags not included. Individual state laws may apply. Democratic, Inc. along with Republican/Teabagger Inc. is a wholly owned subsidiary of Ruling Aristiocracy and Their Corporate Bludgeons, Inc.

Either way it's a tragic state of affairs, but no more so than for the American People, for more than a decade actually the American Subject Populace.

[uncle ray]

21. let's see how well the GOP house get things done with no money.

[MikeMc]

22. +1 KV, Dam Straight!

[Edweird]

23. Reminds me of Br'er Rabbit. He will be 'forced' to do what he wanted to do all along.

[hfojvt]

26. because the idiot voters have spoken

and just elected a whole bunch of people whose top priority is tax cuts for millionaires.

Sorry to call you idiots, dear voters, but is there any other way to describe people who make less than $60,000 a year who elected people who will represent those making over $250,000 a year? I mean seriously, "Hello, McFly, anybody home?"

[uncommon]

29. Because the Dems are weak fuckers.

Seriously. I am tired of this.

[RKP5637]

33. +1000 +++ n/t

[BurtWorm]

30. Why aren't they voting right now to end the tax break, while they have time!