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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:35 AM
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How Did California Stay Blue While The Rest Of Country Tilted Red? Not By Staying Home!
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:46 AM by TomCADem
If you listen to the pundits on both the left and right, California should not have gone even more blue. Unemployment is higher than the rest of the Country. Like Arizona, California is a border state. Democrats and progressives have recently suffered a series of set backs in State wide propositions such as Proposition 8, which banned gay marriage. In the California AG race, Republican Steve Cooley was seen as a strong favorite to beat Democrat Kamala Harris. Finally, California’s Democratic candidates were hopelessly outspent by their right wing counterparts with floods of corporate money coming in to support Republican candidates and causes like Proposition 23.

So, why did California tilt more blue, rather than red and can liberals and progressives learn from progressives in California?

Here is my take on what happened in California, which culminated in Democratic and progressive victories throughout the State.

1. We did not fire on those inside our tent – Democrats and progressives rallied around Democrats, rather than buying into the corporate narrative blaming them for all that ails the world. I recall on DU a few folks attacking Barbara Boxer and Jerry Brown from the left. But, on the ground, we knew that the choice between them and a Republican alternative, and that if we did not fight for their election, then we would be left with that Republican alternative. We ignored “activists” who argued that we should stay home and teach Democrats a lesson for not firmly advancing progressive causes like immigration reform. We ignored folks like those on DU who seized on Jerry Brown’s vow to cut spending to attack him as being a conservative or moderate. We also did not hold Jerry Brown’s repeated pledges of bi-partisanship against him. Jerry Brown and Kamala Harris did not run as “liberals” with a capital “L,” but we did not hold that against them, nor did we listen to those who purported to speak on our behalf in attacking them. We did not go Fox News on our own candidates and take quotes out of context to attack them from the left. Likewise, even though Democrats had to compromise with Republicans because of the 2/3 budget approval requirements, we did not blame them for cuts in public programs, because we understood that Republicans were trying to cut those programs entirely.

2. We ignored the corporate media narrative, and created our own - The national cable media played the narrative of the angry Tea Party member who was outraged at Big Government while ignoring the millions of corporate money supporting this astroturf movement. Likewise, the corporate media also played the narrative of successful busienss women challenging career politicians. However, our local media, and people on the ground kept the focus on the corporations working behind the scenes to pour millions into these races, and propositions like Proposition 23. Indeed, Meg Whitman may have shined a bright spotlight on the impact of corporate types spend millions to buy the election, and it turned us off. In contrast, in other parts of the country, many progressives types allowed themselves to be suppressed by buying into the unending corporate narrative that Tea Partiers were energized, while progressives were disappointed and would not show up. Bullshit. I pissed at the hundreds of millions being dumped into the California election, and I was not going to sit home and cry in my beer.

3. We knew who our enemies were, and they weren’t the Democrats – Meg Whitman, of course, was hard to miss. Perhaps her biggest mistake is that she made herself too visible. Likewise, Carly Fiorina’s actions in attending Koch brother fundraisers were widely reported, as was her endorsement of Proposition 23, the oil company initiative. In California, there was a clear idea of who we were up against. Indeed, Meg Whitman epitomized corporate money. We repeatedly hit Proposition 23’s out of state oil company backers as many on DU saw even though the corporate media tried to repeat the narrative that Proposition 23 was intended to save jobs.

4. We did not sit at home on election night. We turned out to vote – We ignored the Latinos for Reform type activists who urged Hispanics to stay home to send Democrats a message for their failure to pass immigration reform. Instead, we focused on Republican promises to be tough on immigration and emulate Arizona’s anti-immigration laws. Indeed, in Republican Orange County, Hispanics turned out to vote in surprising numbers to protect Loretta Sanchez’s seat. We understood that there is nothing empowering about staying home on election day. I recall seeing DU posts urging a challenge to Boxer from the left. Heck, even now some folks are saying stuff like they would trade Boxer for Feingold. I think most Californian progressives and Democrats understood that it was not a contest between Barbara Boxer/Jerry Brown versus some perfect liberal, progressive candidate. It was contest between them and a Republican. That was the choice, and we affirmatively made our choice.

5. We did not expect Democratic leaders to do our work for us, we did it ourselves – Lets face it. Whitman and Fiorna had more money, and they had professional astroturf groups like Freedom Works to mobilize grassroots support. Yet, we understood that Jerry Brown was out gunned, and we did not hold it against him that he could not match Meg Whitman’s prodigious spending. We could have simply blamed Brown for lack of an effective media strategy or lack of leadership, and threatened to stay home unless he singlehandedly overturned Proposition 8. But we didn’t. We took care of business on our own, as unions, environmentalists, and Hispanics mobilized to get the vote out, rather than relying on someone to hold our hand and lead us. We did not cop out by blaming President Obama or some other Democrat for not pouring money and resouces to match Whitman dollar for dollar. Indeed, perhaps the recognition that Brown was hopelessly outmatched with respect to money, caused us to work, rather than make excuses for our inaction.

6. We did not give Republicans a free pass – On this board, many California DUers hit Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina relentlessly for their hypocrisy. We did not simply forget Republican missteps or get distracted by the corporate media’s efforts to focus on some isolated slur by some campaign staffer referring to Whitman as a whore for her pandering. Instead, we kept the heat on. When Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina tried to show their support of the Hispanic community by throwing down a shot of Tequila, we blasted them for their promises in the Republican primaries to emulate Arizona’s laws.

Finally, while some folks will dismiss California’s success as an aberration, there is no reason why Democrats and progressives can’t fight back elsewhere. We did not take success for granted. When progressives have done so in California, we have lost, as was the case with Proposition 8 where opponents relied on early polls showing that it would lose, while proponents mobilized on the ground. Heck, even in this election, the polluter financed Proposition 26 passed, because progressives largely ignored it even though its impact is as significant as Proposition 23.

Maybe it was a backlash against the right wing backlash, but we did not simply stay home. Nor should any Democrat or progressive in 2012.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:37 AM
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1. I did my GOTV, by canvassing and making calls, and I gave money.
Edited on Fri Nov-05-10 01:38 AM by FrenchieCat
I wrote to the local media and called a few tv stations.

I'm proud of California, and proud to be a Californian.

I did all that I could, and it helped...that I know.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:45 AM
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3. What GOTV org did you work with? I'm working on developing multi-issue based coalitions
and looking for active groups.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:55 AM
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14. I worked with OFA.
Plus I don't really think you are the type of person that I would work for.
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Luminous Animal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:00 AM
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18. I never presumed that you would work for me. I'm merely interested in developing coalitions
around specific issues. That is, working WITH you to bring other groups to work WITH you. Hell, I'm a bisexual atheist but I've worked with an amazing catholic nun in San Francisco on housing issues. I've worked with homophobic welfare advocates on poverty issues. There are some things we talk about and other things we don't. The important thing is that we always keep our eyes on our mutual prize.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:39 AM
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2. One simple reason: the people running gave us something to vote for.
If the national Democrats fail to learn that lesson, 2012 will be an even bigger bloodbath for us.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:50 AM
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8. Yes, our candidates tended to be liberal
they weren't blue dogs, if they had been I would've been really tempted to sit it out.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:51 AM
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10. Really? You Understand That California Democratically Dominated Legislature Cut Many Programs
But, we understood that they needed to compromise to get a budget passed in light of the realities of California's 2/3 budget rule. Heck, we even managed to pass Proposition 25, which dispensed with the 2/3 rule for budgets.

What exactly do you mean that "the people running gave us something to vote," compared to other Democrats throughout the nation? What makes Barbara Boxer that much better than Alan Grayson or Russ Feingold?

Its not them. Its us. We made California blue. Not Barbara Boxer. Not Jerry Brown. Not President Obama. Ultimately, it comes down to us holding the line, and not buying into the corporate media narrative offering us a million excuses to stay at home on election day.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:57 AM
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15. Democrats don't need much to vote for, but they need a little.
Jerry Brown on the ballot was enough for us. The national Dems gave us nothing.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:01 AM
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19. there was no national election this year , all elections were within states and districts
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:03 AM
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20. Yeah, that's just plain wrong
Now that we have the internet, ALL elections are national. Tip O'Neill is laughing at us.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:14 AM
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24. how is Feingold a national Democrat but Jerry brown not ?
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:21 AM
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26. Feingold and Grayson were collateral damage
For the most part, progressives held their seats and Blue Dogs went down. It sucks that my home state was too dumb to vote Russ back into office, but that had more to do with the money spent in that race. Grayson and Feingold were the Chamber of Commerce's top two targets, and the assholes collected their scalps.

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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:43 AM
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29. sorry, but i don't consider them to be progressive if they didn't vote for Feingold
or Grayson.

it's like the teabaggers who claim to be for fiscal responsibility. people can claim to be anything but i look at their actions and if they didn't vote for Feingold or Grayson they aren't progressive.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:14 AM
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39. Who said anything about progressive?
The people who stayed home were not the progressive wing of the Democratic party. The lefties were out there phonebanking and walking precincts and donating our asses off.

The people who stayed home were the youth voters, the union voters, the African-American voters -- you know, the traditional base of the Democratic party. Meanwhile, independent voters swung over to the GOP.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:09 PM
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53. You're making the OPs point
It isn't just the money.

Californians made Cal. blue, you're saying all it takes to make a state red is money and we can't do anything about it.

Yet Whitman and Fiorina spent so much money.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:08 PM
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52. That's dumb. We don't all get to vote in 435 elections.
We do not have at large representatives in this country.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 08:02 AM
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38. And I think most of the intelligent people in this country live there.
The understand the consequences of republican rule.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:06 PM
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51. You have to be "given" something to vote for?
Do you get that this is a contest between two parties? As a negative person, you must appreciate that you always need to choose the lesser evil or the greater one is what you will be "given."
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:47 AM
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4. Fine, we shouldn't stay home, but I have problems with some of the other stuff
You can't just say we shouldn't expect much of anything in terms of principles from Dem candidates. Brown and Harris would have won without any rightward tacks on anything.

And Brown will end his political career if he repeats his boneheaded 1978 tactic of capitulating to the right(like he did when he got behind Prop 13.)

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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:00 AM
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17. Brown Emphasized That He Would Be (1) Bi-Partisan and (2) Make Spending Cuts, But...
We did not hold that against him. California's is in the red budget-wise.

Many public employee unions have had to go along with furloughs. We understand that the budget situation sucks, but we also are aware of the realities of passing tax hikes through California's Legislature with the 2/3 tax approval requirement. We could have ignored these realities, and "punished" Democrats for making these budget cuts, and not letting the Government shut down until the Republicans backed down, BUT the fact that California's government nearly shut down several times these past two years, made us understand the reality over the rhetoric.

Sounding brave about staring down Republicans, versus having a State actually issue IOUs is sobering. In the end, Californian Democrats and progressives fought because we knew what was at stake, rather than insisting on some unrealistic litmus test that gives Republicans a free pass.

So, why make things up and try to paint Jerry Brown as some ideal liberal. He is not. But, we understood that he was a far better choice than the Republican Meg Whitman. The same goes for Carly Fiorina.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:48 AM
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5. No shit.
Met a true Meg_low_Maniac today that was terrified of Prop 19's result. :)
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 05:02 AM
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35. Totally off topic but -
your sig line and picture.


just. wow.


real nice.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:48 AM
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6. You're leaving out the biggest and most obvious reason - Debra Bowen
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debra_Bowen

People here at DU don't give anywhere near the necessary attention to the sham of a voting system in this country.

Bowen came in and did a top-to-bottom review of the machines and forced the necessary changes.

Count the votes correctly and you'll find Democratic majorities springing up all over this land.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:59 AM
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16. BINGO! NT
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:08 AM
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22. Saying The Vote Is Rigged Is Another Cop Out For Not Trying To GOTV!
Afterall, why bother to get Democrats and progressives to vote, when it is all rigged anyways? If the elections are all rigged anyways, why did Republicans put so much effort into killing ACORN?

Of course we need to look out for voter fraud. But the number one reason why California is Blue, is because we voted. We did not follow the posts that are even in this thread where folks are saying that they would have stayed home.

Staying home on election day is BS. Worse, staying home, then complaining and blaming Democrats as Republicans gain power is just idiotic.

Women and minorities gained power by fighting for and exercising the right to vote. Not staying home and hoping for some perfect candidate to give them a reason to vote. But, as we have seen through Latino for Reform ads that urge Hispanics to send Democrats a message by not voting, the right wing is trying to get us to give up this power.
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:15 AM
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33. I will not let the risks of electronic voting machines be minimized.
They are lethal to democracy and they are the most serious obstacle we face
followed immediately by the monopo-media and then the wretched "Citizens United"
fiasco.

IMHO.

Of course turnout is important. But if 100% of the citizenry turn out to vote and
the counting method is corrupt and inscrutable the whole exercise is pointless.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 05:45 PM
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47. If Democrats Don't Vote, Then The Result Is The Same
...Worse, if Democrats don't show up to vote, it becomes easier to mask voter fraud if they don't turnout in the first place. It is only when Democrats are active, can voter fraud really be made apparent as was the case in Iran.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:35 AM
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43. Wrong. We've had real problems in this state, most of which
have gotten much better since Bowen was elected.

And it's ELECTION FRAUD, not voter fraud. "Voter fraud" is what Republicans call vote caging.
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:02 AM
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37. thank you! Debra Bowen doesn't get nearly enough credit.
i've served those polls over the years. i've seen the transition. her efforts cleaned up the process *exponentially*.

remember the words of Stalin, it matters who counts the votes. well, your Secretary of State does the certifying of *who counts the votes*. a full court press grassroots assault to reclaim Sec of States throughout the land is literally job 1, in my honest opinion. GOTV is nice and all, but really, get a real Sec of State and watch those trending results change like magic.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:49 AM
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7. If you wanna huge turnout in your state, the answer is simple:
Convince Meg Whitman to run for office. She will start plastering the TV shows with her endless commercials. All of which are insipid and very irritating.

And she has enough money that by the time you have seen a month's worth of her mug EVERYWHERE, you are ready to visit Tijuana, get some fake identities and register in half a dozen counties.

At one point, I actually thought that there was a hologram of Meg on the top shelf of my fridge telling me I had to have a plan if I was going to have the fridge door open. (her theme: "Jerry Brown doesn't have a plan.")

She did more to energize the Dems here than anyone else I can think of - Except Wait - it was a two fer: We also had this perky and pesty anorexic lady named Carly Fiorina trying to drive Barb Boxer out of California's Senate spot.

So by Nov 2nd, most of us progressives had not only a half a dozen fake ID's from a place in Tijuana, we had another two dozen fake ID's from Eastern Europe, and we all used all of them to sink the ships of these two scary scary women!

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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:50 AM
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9. No DINOs on the ballot.
I voted Green on a couple of protest votes, but otherwise voted D down the line. If there were BlueDogs here, I wouldn't bother with even that.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:52 AM
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11. and we had Prop 19 on the ballot which got the youth out n/t
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:54 AM
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12. Who were all these people attacking Jerry at DU?
I didn't see anything at all. Nothing about Barbara, either, except that unfortunate campaigning she did for Joe Lieberman.

And ditto for these claims that anyone here advocated not voting. Plus, you confuse legitimate criticism with "attacks" and that's not useful.

California went more blue because we're coming off of Arnold's mess. And because Debra Bowen has cleaned up our elections. And because we had great candidates that our volunteers could get behind.



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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:05 AM
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21. I didn't attack him, but I wasn't thrilled with his nonsense about Prop 19.
But yeah, I voted for him, hoping it was just a blustery opinion. Damn it, we came SO CLOSE.

Next time.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 10:37 AM
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44. The Obama DoJ didn't do us any favors, either.
But it was still worth the effort. We're training people to think of MJ as legal. Next time!
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:17 AM
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25. Look at the Discussion Threads Of People Already Boasting About How They May Not Vote In 2012...
...Or, how they may only vote, but they are not going to lift a finger unless a long list of demands are met.

The corporate media plays the narrative of disappointed Democrats, and we lap it up, and play the role of pouting progressives and Democrats.

A true activist fights, fights and fights, and gets people to fight with him or her.

Look, in California with Proposition 8, we progressives dropped the ball. Rolling Stone has a great article on how we simply dropped the ball on Proposition 8, relied on early poll results showing that Prop 8 would lose, and got beat.

There is nothing magical about California. You can't sit back and wait for some leader to do your work for you.

Hey, I voted, donated, and posted in support of Brown and Boxer while attacking Whitman and Fiorina.

Do I have criticisms of Boxer and Brown. Yes. But, I understood that my choice was between them and the Republicans, and the Republicans were far worse.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:57 AM
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42. People say a lot of things when they are upset.
You can't really compare that to some kind of ideal fairly.
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Radical Activist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 01:54 AM
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13. Excellent, productive post.
It's frustrating to see so many posts using Obama as a cop-out for their own lack of organizing. Progressives need to whine less for change from above and work more for change from below. I've been deeply disappointed to see so many on the left act as though Obama is the only one in the country with any power.

I would add one advantage California has over many other states: ballot referendums. It gives an additional motivation for people to vote even when they aren't excited about the candidates. I know that can sometimes help Republicans, but it's worth thinking about for those states who don't have that form of democracy yet.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:12 AM
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23. One more local reason - San Diego had for the first time over 50% absentee ballots
The news said 55% was mail in - I imagine this is true of a lot of CA, more and more people are registering permanent absentee. I believe your more likely to vote that way (OR and WA both have absentee only - WA has a little traditional still, but high voter turn out).
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Frances Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:35 AM
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28. Lots of people I know get absentee ballots
You can either mail them in or turn them in on election day at any polling place

I think that Meg Whitman would have had a better chance if she had not run right after Arnold. People had tried the outsider knows best route and it didn't work. But what really did Meg in was the illegal immigrant maid she had.

Everyone at HP hated Carly. She was tagged with the idea that she'd outsource your job.

The last state I lived in stayed Blue too--yeah for Maryland!!!
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:11 PM
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46. True but in CA there has been a movement by Dems to get people registered permanent absentee
From 1992 on the average was 20-30% that voted via absentee ballot - now its at over 50%. Thats a large growth. It should be noted that midterm elections in CA usually draw about 55-60% of the electorate - the same is true of this election.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:28 AM
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27. But we do like conservative movie stars as governor now and then.
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BlueCheese Donating Member (897 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:51 AM
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30. We had good candidates.
But let's be honest. We have a very Democratic electorate too.

Obama won 61% of the vote in California. Democrats have won the last five presidential elections here. The liberal states stayed blue for the most part--Massachusetts, for example. It was the purple states and the red ones where we took it on the chin.
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:52 AM
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31. I wonder if it is that there are liberal radio stations in CA ?
as one factor.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 02:53 AM
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32. Plus, Californians don't fucking forget......
we want positive shit done, and so we know that means voting,
and voting often...and doing everything that encourages voting.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 03:33 AM
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34. I like the way you think!
n/t
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Scuba Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 06:00 AM
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36. The right is saying it's because...
...of all the illegals voting, and we need to either deport them or expel California from the Union.
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flamingdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:15 AM
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40. In Los Angeles we had Mariachis playing to help GOTV, creativity! nt
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 09:42 AM
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41. More young people, more latinos? n/t
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SkeeterVT Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-05-10 11:07 AM
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45. California is Unique . . .
Having once lived in California, I learned many years ago that California is truly a unique state politically.

For one thing, California is much more ideologically polarized than the country as a whole -- largely due to its predominant urban population versus its smaller rural population. Its most conservative counties are also its most sparsely populated rural counties (Except, of course, Orange County), while its most progressive counties are also its most heavily populated, urbanized counties.

Consequently, there are very few moderate voters in California relative to the rest of the nation; you're either a progressive or a conservative. Indeed, by national standards, a moderate Californian (For example, outgoing Republican Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger) would be branded a liberal everywhere else in the country.

California's progressives are considerably farther to the left of their peers in the rest of the country. Likewise, California's conservatives are considerably farther to the right than their peers in the rest of the country.

And let's face it: Ever since the Republicans pushed through Proposition 187 in 1994, the state GOP has fallen into permanent minority status, having alienated Latinos, the fastest-growing segment of California's population, at 20 percent of the electorate and having lost the support of big-city dwellers decades ago. Democrats now outnumber Republicans in California by a two-to-one margin. Even that longtime conservative GOP bastion, Orange County, has gone from deep red to purple in recent years.

Massachusetts would be the bluest state in the nation -- Democrats there outnumber Republicans by a FIVE-to-one ratio statewide and by nearly NINE to one in the Boston metro area -- but independents outnumber both major parties in the Bay State (And make no mistake: Republican Senator Scott Brown is no conservative, not by a long shot; he's staunchly pro-choice on abortion).

With those kind of demographics, it should come as no surprise, then, that California stayed blue while much of the rest of the nation went red.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 05:47 PM
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48. Because California got rid of most of their touch screen voting machines. n/t
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:03 PM
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49. i was able to vote for some progressive candidates with a good progressive track record
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:04 PM
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50. go California!
Maybe this attitude will spread and hopefully as California goes, so goes the nation will be true!
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:13 PM
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54. Who the HELL "attacked Boxer and Brown from the LEFT"??
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 06:14 PM by PassingFair
I didn't see any attacks on them from the left!

"I recall seeing DU posts urging a challenge to Boxer from the left. Heck, even now some folks are saying stuff like they would trade Boxer for Feingold. I think most Californian progressives and Democrats understood that it was not a contest between Barbara Boxer/Jerry Brown versus some perfect liberal, progressive candidate. It was contest between them and a Republican. That was the choice, and we affirmatively made our choice."


WTF? Boxer and Brown ARE the left.

Congratulate yourselves, you did good, but
you WEREN'T fighting the LEFT.

:crazy:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:17 PM
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55. More California voters stayed at home in 2010 mid-term than in 2006 mid-term election
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 06:24 PM by Better Believe It
Just the facts without any political rhetoric.



Trend of low turnout continues
By ROBIN HINDERY/Associated Press
November 5, 2010


SACRAMENTO -- Election officials estimate voter turnout in California for this year's general election was on par with past years at less than 60 percent, despite some fiercely competitive races and voter frustration with the status quo.

As of Thursday, preliminary results from the secretary of state's office showed 7.6 million people -- or 44.2 percent of registered voters -- cast ballots in person or by mail.

That figure will increase as the state's 58 counties continue processing a flood of last-minute absentee and provisional ballots before the Dec. 3 reporting deadline.

More than 1 million vote-by-mail ballots remained uncounted statewide, said Gail Pellerin, Santa Cruz County clerk and head of the California Association of Clerks and Election Officials.

An additional 1.5 million votes would increase California's overall turnout to 52.6 percent of registered voters. Turnout was 56 percent in the last gubernatorial election, when Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger was re-elected in 2006.

http://www.dailydemocrat.com/ci_16530940?source=most_viewed


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And the youth turnout dropped in half compared to 2008.

"Exit polls showed voters ages 18 to 29 made up 11 percent of the electorate, a sharp drop from the 18 percent in 2008 and the lowest percentage in two decades. And those voters, who backed Obama by 34 points in 2008, backed congressional Democrats in 2010 by only 16 points.

(The percentage of the electorate is used as a measure because turnout is always smaller in congressional elections than in presidential elections, for all groups.)

The drop-off was even more substantial in some key states. In California, one of every five voters in 2008 was between the ages of 18 and 29, compared with about one in 10 on Tuesday."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/03/AR2010110304486.html


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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:54 PM
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58. And California Is More Blue! Brown Over Whitman!
The important fact that you miss is that in the 2006 election, Schwartznegger (the Republican) won. Steve Poizner (Republican) won as State insurance commissioner. Republicans won most of the seats on the Board of Equalization. Even Debra Bowen only won by a relatively narrow margin.
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dimbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-06-10 06:32 PM
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56. Here's the deal. Republicans have written off California as hopeless,
Edited on Sat Nov-06-10 06:33 PM by dimbear
due mainly to ethnic changes. That's why they turned to hopelessly unqualified candidates who could self finance and spent their money elsewhere, where it could do the most harm.
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TomCADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:40 PM
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57. Interesting Bit Of Historical Revisionism When Boxer Was Highlighted As Being Vulnerable...
...and year of the woman articles were highlighting Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorino as harbingers of a new breed of Republican woman activism.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/02/us/politics/02senate.html

Of course, corporate money flooded in to support Fiorino and Propositions like Prop 23.

It seems that because California does not fit into the corporate narrative that Republicans are resurgent, and Democrats are despondent and apathetic, it is written off as a special case. It is not. Californian Democrats simply pulled together and kept the State blue.
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Chatt Donating Member (19 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 03:58 PM
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59. New York, Connecticut and Oregon stayed blue, too
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 04:05 PM by Chatt
It wasn't just California.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-07-10 04:00 PM
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60. I voted gladly straight Democratic and had candidates from
Edited on Sun Nov-07-10 04:02 PM by PufPuf23
local to national that have proven track records with me (most had my votes several times in the past).

I am very happy Jerry is back!!

Edit to add: Great OP. Thank you.
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