If we had sales people promote their product like we do our politicans

[SargeUNN]

Can you imagine what would happen. I did sales jobs like furniture, coaching, and others and as I have watched the political scene with an idea of how the different sides sell their candidates. I am not talking ads and such but just watching the sides and how they present things, and the interesting thing is that anyone buys either side.

The right is like the pushy sales person that you just know they are playing you for the fool, no honesty, all great and nothing negative allowed. The other side, our side, is negative mostly about their product, not happy about anything enough to encourage you to buy the product but then turns around and ask you to.

Here is an example: I have listened to Norman Goldman and he will tell you how horrible Obama and the Democrats have done and once in a while slide in a positive but it is buried in the negative so much it is hardly noticed. Lately he has been saying to vote for Democrats but it reminds me of the salesman who told me how bad his product was with little or no good things, and then tried to get me to buy it. Why should I?

We seem to think all the negative is honesty but it is really bad packaging because Obama and the Democrats have done good things and the lack of mentioning those things or watering them down doesn't attract voters to vote for them. Sure to mention the negative is fine, but to also put in the truthful positives isn't cheerleading it is being honest. It also helps sell the voter on why they should vote that way and it makes it harder on the competition to sell theirs.

[alittlelark]

1. KnR

[meegbear]

2. Some days, my candidate doesn't feel so ... fresh.

[SargeUNN]

3. then here is what I do

I have a big issue with Rodney Glassman who is running against McCain, and how his campaign is very lackluster. I call his campaign and make suggestions on what I see would be more helpful, but seldom do I see them use it and Glassman will be smeared. I have done the same with Goddard who is running for Gov. against Jan Brewer and he has used some of it and has closed the gap to where there is a chance of victory. As a salesman I always tried to process the feedback and evaluate if it would help. However, if we depend only on the candidate to do it all then we are not doing our part either.

[SargeUNN]

4. humm maybe this topic is to truthful or something

but watching how fast it dropped and how few bothered to read it shows why we are fighting to keep the congress. We don't mind being negative but to see how we harm our efforts is not wanted. I just hope we realize this is important and we need to get it. Remember people from the other side do read this site as we found out from the profile of Tim Proffit and don't think he hasn't used a lot of what he found here in his hate campaign. We need to remember we are all sales people here for what we believe and if we keep getting focused on the negative and watering down the positive we are giving strength to the other side. Sure it is fine to talk about the parts we are disappointed in but if we keep being so scared to acknowledge the accomplishment with equal zest then we are defeating our own causes.

[JoePhilly]

5. We sabatoge ourselves

We should be fighting each other during the primaries, then getting back on message after.

When we don't, the media takes the opposition from the far right and combines it with the opposition from the left, and then spins that narrative that "Obama and the Dems are doing TOO MUCH".

And that's all the low information voter hears. The Dems are moving to far to the left.

And then we act confused as to what happened.

I should mention that the Dems in Congress hear the same narrative, and they also tend to buy into it. So they pull back. And the cycle repeats.

That's how you get President Bush in 2000. And its how we might get a GOP majority in the House in 2010.

We need to be just as focused against the GOP as we were in 2006 and 2008. But apparently, we don;t have that kind of stamina ... the kind of stamina that the far right has been demonstrating for about 30 years.

[SargeUNN]

6. I noticed at least one has unrec this thread but

I am not surprised. We don't want to hear stuff like this because it bothers our conscience and so we have to unrec or get mad. We could not care less about how much we hurt our causes as long as we don't have to face what we are doing wrong and trying to correct it. That is why we always seem to have to fight to win a battle we should be coasting to a win.

[JoePhilly]

7. I get the sense that some of them never played a team sport.

Here's what I mean.

I live in NC, traditionally a RED state. In 2008, we worked hard, and we got rid of Liddy Dole. And getting rid of Dole helped the larger Democratic effort.

In other traditionally red states, you often have a conservadem, and a Liddy Dole running. You might not love the conservadem, but they'd be better than Dole. And so when some one throws away their vote and lets their "Liddy Dole" win, they just weakened the Dem that I helped get elected here in NC.

We all want more progressive Dems. But in almost all cases, any Dem would be better than the GOP's alternative.

While we bitch and moan, GOP governors are going to redistrict their states, and control the voting that occurs there.

While we bicker.

[zalinda]

8. I would feel better about our politicians if

they would even TRY to REALLY help us, instead of helping big business. They've gone so far as not even LOOKING like they are putting up a fight against the repubs. I would respect Obama if he had at least tried getting the public option, but that was off the table BEFORE the dems started negotiations.

It seems that the dems motto is "We are better than the other guys, so live with it, shmuck". I get the feeling that 99% of the politicians are just warming their seats, until the next election. Of those that seem to actually give a damn, you can count on your fingers and not run out of fingers.

zalinda

[SargeUNN]

10. now please do this

name one thing that has been improved no matter if it isn't fully what you want but that is better. Remember there is more than one side to a coin.

[zalinda]

11. There is absolutely nothing that has changed

that will affect me or any of my family. It seems you have to have some money before you can see any change.

zalinda

[Initech]

9. Thanks to Citizen's United, we're literally one term away from President Mountain Dew Cammacho.