Still eating at KFC?

[flvegan]

"During an undercover investigation at a KFC “Supplier of the Year” slaughterhouse in Butterfield, Missouri—owned by George's, Inc.—it was documented that live birds were being thrown by workers and crushed by metal dumping machines. Birds were often impaled by mangled transport cages, and workers were instructed to simply yank them out when this happened; PETA's investigator saw workers doing this and found dismembered limbs left behind in cages after the birds had been removed. Birds also got stuck in the spring-loaded doors of the cages, and workers whacked them with metal poles in order to push the doors open, sometimes impaling live birds. One morning, PETA's investigator saw roughly 50 “red birds”—the ones who are scalded to death in defeathering tanks while they're still conscious."

http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/u-georges.asp

It's okay if you don't like PETA. Doesn't change much, though.

Here's more:

http://www.kentuckyfriedcruelty.com/u-pilgrimspride.asp

I have to agree with PETA here..."If this is the best KFC has to offer, it's hard to imagine the worst."

Yup, it's a PETA thread. It's also a challenge to stay on-topic.

Nothing graphic without clicking beyond the original webpages.

[REP]

1. Nope - Don't Need Trans-Fats with a Side of Cruelty

Still eating meat from Niman Ranch, though.

[flvegan]

10. How dare you

make me Google.

"Niman Ranch beef, pork and lamb is raised using traditional methods on family farms with no antibiotics and no added hormones - ever. These humane, sustainable practices produce steaks, chops, ribs and roasts that are wonderfully rich in flavor. Like America's finest chefs, you'll serve Niman Ranch meats with pride to your family and guests."

http://www.nimanranch.com/control/main

Looks like they have the right idea as to animal meat production.

[REP]

16. Oh Yeah? Cram This In Your Browser

http://harpers.org/media/pages/2006/05/pdf/HarpersMagazine-2006-05-0081030.pdf

An article from Harper's about 'standard' pig farming with a comparison to a Niman Ranch farm.

[eridani]

39. If we are going to use animals for food--

--the least we owe them are decent lives and humane deaths. This sure the hell does not qualify.

http://www.thunderinghooves.net/about/how_raise.htm

These folks had a wonderful story about their heirloom breed turkeys. They aren't so overbred that they can't fly, and whenever people appear in the yard to do chores, they fly over the fence to observe. Watches and rings definitely aren't safe. :) But they are a little dim to figure out how to get back over the fence to their food, so someone has to open the gate and lead them back. If one of these fellows graces your Thanksgiving table, you know it had a turkey's idea of fun before it got there.

[spoony]

45. Your first line is a great summary

Thank goodness some companies still abide by the idea!

[MisterHowdy]

132. sickening

Working at one of these factories would be like working in a concentration camp.

We threaten people with violence if they abuse their dog,
yet we can torture and slaughter other animals (No fundamental differences from dogs/cats)

If only people could really see what they ate.

[Marrah_G]

153. Holy Expensive Meat Batman

Damn, it looks yummy but WAY WAY out of my price range.

[RiverStone]

155. Is the only cruelty free chicken - free range/organic?

Well, it's all relative. Not that these chickens are roaming the range with the bison and buffalo, enjoying the sunsets and sippin wine - till someone knocks them on their head while fast asleep....

But, if I want to at least attempt to NOT buy into the Fast Food Nation - I assume the only option is to shop for free range in the organic section of the grocery? That's what I have been doing anyway.

Can't imagine that any fast food joints serve cruelty free anything - except salad?

[Robbien]

2. I believe you are preaching to the choir

just awful

:cry:

[Iris]

84. if only that were really true. n/t

[quinnox]

3. KFC is gross

And I'm referring to the taste of their chicken, yuck. I found a better fast food chicken place that actually tastes good, so KFC can go to hell.

[The Doctor.]

42. There's something truly tasteless in the fruits of absolute capitalism.

No... there's nothing wrong with capitalism as a social mechanism as far as I'm concerned.

However... When the Fog Hat on Main and Evans in Gerald, IL, the place that served up a grilled chicken breast/portabella sandwich with asiago on a pumpernickle roll, has to fold to a bucket of fried 'WTF?' and a side of 'Not so many rat-droppings to alert the health inspectors', you know that something is lost altogether.

[madeline_con]

145. It tastes like chicken.

You left yourself open there. :hi:

[The Doctor.]

148. That was only skin-deep....

If you'd fried harder, you might have pecked up a grain of truth in a pen of chickanery.

But I prefer the 'other other' white meats... :evilgrin:

[firefox_fan]

4. Still better then Chinese chicken! From what I head today on NPR...

I lost my appetite this morning...

[sutz12]

5. Haven't in a long, long time....nt

[Blue-Jay]

6. Hell no!

Popeye's is much spicier.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

55. i like popeyes too.

yummy!

[ChavezSpeakstheTruth]

89. oh yeah - Popeyes all the way!

[MADem]

7. Well, I don't eat that shit. We fry up our own at home on the rare occasions we have it

But that said, the protests seem to be focusing on drugging the chickens and making them fat and crippled.

In any event, whatever issues are raised, in Texas they think the protests are "rude."

Details here: http://www.kauz.com/news/local/7580632.html

[rpannier]

8. I gave up eating there long time ago

There are KFC's here in Korea -- I avoid them.

[Alacrat]

9. Hate the place anyway

This is just another reason to stay away.
If we're going to consume meat,and I do, animals have to be killed, but there is no reason to add any additional cruelty to the process.
Processing plants should do everything in their power to make the slaughter as humane as possible, and fire any employee who does anything that makes the animals needlessly suffer.
Most states have strict laws against animal cruelty.
Why would cruelty at a processing plant be any different? I'm sure it has something to do with money, as long as the slaughter houses are adding to the state and local govs economy, there won't be much done to stop it, unless there is a huge public outcry for change.

PETA may bring these things to light, but IMO they're not a group who will bring about change. A lot of people see them as being over the top and on the verge of being a bunch of nuts. They are to easily dismissed and written off as lunatics.

[Renew Deal]

11. That's the colonels special recipe

:9

[Swamp Rat]

12. Not for decades.

Might as well eat lumps of rotting, cancerous flesh marinated in salmonella sauce.

[emilyg]

15. same here - won't even get a coke there.

[Swamp Rat]

17. Last time I went there, I refused to go inside.

I was with a group who wanted to eat there, about 12 years ago, but I stayed in the parking lot while they ordered their poison. Same thing occurred around this same time period when a friend wanted to eat at Taco Smell. I went hungry and he ate 6 tacos. 3 hours later he started vomiting and didn't stop for hours.

I would rather go hungry.

[Blue_Tires]

66. truth...

:thumbsup:

[drbtg1]

72. Can't get Coke there

Last time I checked, KFC was owned by a Pepsi spinoff company called YUM! Brands, Inc.

[earthboundmisfit]

73. YUM! Brands sponsors the Kentucky Derby.

This is from when they started in 2006, but they sponsored 2007 also:
http://www.adweek.com/aw/national/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1001955821

[drbtg1]

76. Really? I'm surprised they don't call it The YUM Kentucky Derby

or maybe just the YUM Derby, like a bowl game.

Do they still offer Mint Juleps without Mountain Dew? ;)

Thanks for the info.

[madeline_con]

146. Or the Chicken Derby. n/t

[drbtg1]

154. Huh?

My point in renaming was for the usual purpose of advertising a brand. I thought that was obvious. By calling it just "the Chicken Derby", how does that identify a brand? It could be chicken by Purdue, chicken by Popeye's, chicken by Kenny Rogers, and so on.

[Quantess]

13. I have been aware for along time that

KFC is cruel to their chickens. That's (just one of several good reasons) why I refuse to eat there. :thumbsdown:

[Mojambo]

14. I've eaten at KFC maybe 3 or 4 times in my entire life

And I really don't see myself ever eating there again, frankly.

And I LOVE eating chicken.

[whoneedstickets]

18. I much prefer Popeye's anyway. Are there any cruelty issues..

..with this chain?

[jgraz]

20. No, they only use organic, free-range, happy happy faerie chickens

And they only use the ones that have already fallen off the tree on their own.

[whoneedstickets]

22. Great news!

I've always thought there was something special about those birds. The biscuits are good too.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

56. ---

:rofl:

[shenmue]

57. My favorite kind!

:crazy:

[Chovexani]

133. I love the taste of faerie in the morning

You totally win at life. :rofl:

[jgraz]

147. That's funny no matter how you parse it

:rofl: :toast:

[flvegan]

33. Hmmm...the need to ask...

[Clark2008]

60. I don't care for either - Popeyes and KFC are too greasy.

I hate that Hardee's gave up chicken in favor of those HUMONGOUS burgers.

[aikoaiko]

19. Walmart fried chicken rocks when fresh. 3.98 for a whole chicken.

[MadBadger]

21. And I always thought the worst was that it isnt really chicken.

[tjwash]

23. mmmm...artificially injected deep fried and ground up chicken parts.

:puke:

[nam78_two]

24. K&R-and of course Humane Slaughter Laws still do not cover birds

Thanks for posting :thumbsup:.

http://www.hsus.org/farm/news/pressrel/humane_slaughter_suit_proceeds.html

[flvegan]

29. Damn right.

[nam78_two]

34. Thank you for this thread

:kick:

[KharmaTrain]

25. My PepsiCo Boycott...30 Plus Years And Still Going Strong

When Pepsi named Richard Nixon to their board of directors following Watergate, I swore off Pepsi and any PepsiCo products...including Taco Bell, Pizza Hut and KFC. That company is still a major GOOP contributor.

[shenmue]

58. Um, hate to remind you...

Nixon is dead.

[KharmaTrain]

61. But Pepsico Still Donates To Repugnicans

Donations 1999-2004
$2.1 million


http://www.boycottbush.net/consumers.htm

That puts that at #16 on the Top 50...right next to Chevron. No mention of Coke in the Top 50.

[siligut]

67. Thank you for the link!

In the habit of buying to support small cos, this just helps, thank you.

[Reterr]

26. k&r.eom

[David__77]

27. Nope. It's Popeye's only for me.

Not that I'm too into the fried chicken or anything!

[Quantess]

62. mmmmm those biscuits!

I once gained 10 pounds just by living nextdoor to a Popeye's Chicken. These days, I'll allow myself one biscuit once every 6 months or so...they are little butter bombs.:9

[Kurovski]

28. Not in eight years, at the least.

My digestive track went haywire after I'd eat it, so I just gave up on them.

Really use to love the cole-slaw.

Just because "we're going to eat them anyway" is no excuse for torturing animals prior to slaughtering them.

[Dammit Ann]

30. I plan on raising my own and ringing their wee little necks...

Irish style. And no, I am not even kidding. Grow, Sustain, Survive. Fuck China. And the Industry Farm Of Americka. I'll grow my own. Antibiotic free. Still tasty.

[flvegan]

35. Well

tasty is ALL that matters, right?

[Dammit Ann]

41. Have you ever lived around chickens?

They will eventually drive you towards homicide. Or, chickenside?
poultryside? Either way, we must eat and chickens taste great. Do you fish?

[flvegan]

43. Yes, I have.

And yes, we must eat, and our selfish nature determines that we go for what "tastes great" huh?

No, I don't fish.

But hey, fuck the environment, fuck animal welfare. It tastes good.

Whatever.

[Dammit Ann]

44. Ok, I'll play, what should I eat?

And if you say tofu, or some other crazy... I swear... What tastes good? I love veggies, I love nuts, I love cheese, I am open. I am a chef. Give me a reason to not to love fried chicken.

[flvegan]

49. Okay

I'll play...

Looks like someone doesn't like tofu. That's cool, or course. Don't know how tofu is "crazy" but okay.

If you're a chef, then if you can't help make tofu taste good, then you suck at it. Sorry.

[Frank Cannon]

53. Tofu is "crazy" because it tastes like drywall compound

And despite the skill of the chef, I've never... NEVER... found it to taste like anything else.

I'm of the theory that you can train your taste buds to find potting soil palatable if that's the only thing you had to eat for a long time. I don't think it would ever taste very good, but you could still eat it. I honestly believe that's what vegans do (train their taste buds, not eat potting soil--although with some of the stuff my vegan friends have served me, I've often wondered).

I, frankly, like to find my food enjoyable. Eating is one of the very few pleasures that still remain in life.

[jmowreader]

86. I'd REALLY like to know how you came to your point of reference.

[Frank Cannon]

101. Believe me, it wasn't on purpose

It was the result of what can only happen when a very amateur do-it-yourselfer who thinks he knows more than he does meets a major ceiling repair. Hijinx ensue.

[slowry]

116. Ever had a good bowl of miso soup?

Tofu has a distinctly mild flavor on its own -- certainly not an offensive one, that I've ever noticed. Plenty of people who aren't vegan eat tofu; the idea that it requires training to enjoy it is pretty silly. Chicken is pretty damn boring itself, without spices, marination, frying, or other food to complement it.

[CrispyQ]

100. These are damned good!!!

Boca Chik'n Patties

Also, this is a very good recipe! Vegan Fried Chicken

:hi:

[Catherine Vincent]

137. You said wring their necks!

I remember when I was a kid and I'd visit my grandparents, they would feed the chikens who would circle around them and they'd just pluck one up and just wring their necks until it breaks. I hated seeing that. I still ate the chicken though. :9

[WilliamPitt]

31. Food is murder.

Always has been. Always will be.

That being said: No. I don't eat at KFC. Haven't for many years.

But I don't eat at Popeye's either.

Can't stand the grease either way.

[flvegan]

36. Could be less so, don't you think, Pitt?

But, if it's all about the grease, then at least we're back to how it relates to us.

But then, what else matters.

[Frank Cannon]

54. Your respect for life is very touching

I find your Punisher logo avatar to be particularly inspiring along those lines.

[RandomKoolzip]

75. Oof! Zing!

:thumbsup:

In any case, KFC is gross. I can't remember the last time I ape there.

[ronnykmarshall]

87. SNAP!

[flvegan]

98. You DO know

the difference between reality and a fictional character, right?

If not, I'll try to find my handpuppets to explain it to you.

[Frank Cannon]

104. You have a Punisher handpuppet?!

I'm even MORE impressed by your childlike innocence!

[flvegan]

107. Are

you this boring in real life, too?

[Reterr]

108. Ouch -you GOT HIM GOOD

I used to argue like that too...
In 4th grade...

And then I grew up.


As an aside its always hilarious when people use other people's avatars, sig. lines etc. as some sort of ammunition against them. Sort of a last resort since there is no valid argument left..."Ooooo you got an avatar dat contradicks everyting u say-me so clever".

[nam78_two]

109. Very good point

Btw on those lines, did you know that all the people with the "clockwork orange" icons on here also like to violently rape and torture women? I mean its like so totally like the logical conclusion or something, given their avatar choice.

[Frank Cannon]

119. Well, to be frank, I've always found that sort of strange, too

I mean, it would be like someone posting about all their fine liberal principles with a Mallard Fillmore avatar staring you in the face.

[knight_of_the_star]

32. I don't eat at fast food period

Mostly because it doesn't qualify as food in my book.

[yewberry]

37. Get thee hence, evil one.

You evangelists are all killahs! Killahs!

(And your pants are on fire, too!)

--}( !

[flvegan]

38. *

:rofl:

[LeftyMom]

50. oh. em. gee.

:rofl:

[girl gone mad]

40. I've boycotted them since...

Pamela Anderson raised awareness of their cruelty a few years ago.

[Reterr]

46. Kicking this

since I just kicked that stupid "Death by veganism" thread x(. I hate kicking stupid stup

[FrenchieCat]

47. The rats broke my non habit!

it's like, do I really need a secret recipe in where I don't know what I'm eating? Don't think so!

[Big Pappa]

48. Your right.

I don't like PETA and I don't like KFC.

[HEyHEY]

85. But, deep fried Peta members sounds tasty!

[Chovexani]

135. I like 'em with fava beans

And a nice chianti.

[markbark]

51. PETA's a bit disingenuous...

The seem to think that 'Murkins care where their Chicken McNuggets come from.
Mickey D's shows freakin' hamburger patches in their commercials fer cryin' out loud!
(No kiddies, cows aren't slaughtered to make your Happy Meals, we just pick 'em!)

The point I'm rather long windedly trying to make is, if the public at large is unfazed by the deaths of 600,000 of their fellow man so that they might still fill up the Suburban with $3.00 gas, what makes you think they care about KFC impaling chickens before they get to the "Family Size" bucket?

--MAB

[MadHound]

52. Well, a sizeable number of Americans actually do care. However, more importantly

Corporations generally care about their public image, if nothing else. This is what PETA is striking at, KFC's public image, essentially shaming them into being more humane in how they treat their birds. This sort of public shaming is a time proven tactic, one that PETA and others have put to effective use before. No reason it shouldn't work this time.

[shenmue]

59. I don't think they're 'unfazed', exactly...

and I don't think chickens are on a level with people.

Animals eat each other in the wild.

Stop animals cruelly eating animals!

[RandomKoolzip]

78. Wait a minute - fast food is gross and of questionable origin?!

How come no one ever told me that before?!

[EnviroBat]

63. To hell with KFC.

Their stupid-ass "Sweet Home Alabama" music blaring away in their commercials has made my so fucking sick, I can't even eat home-made chicken without becoming violently ill. I may just stop into my local KFC, throw my britches down, and crap on the floor. Right in the middle on the dinner rush. Then I'll scream "Sweet Home Alabama..." As I run gleefully out to the parking lot! BUT WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN! Society has made me mentally ill...

[nonconformist]

70. I can't fucking STAND those "dinner at home? woah!" commercials

I mean, give me a fucking break. Is society so screwed up that not only do we not sit down for family dinners anymore, but when we do it's fast food and it's still considered shocking and unbelievable?

Well, don't answer that. Still, I hate them.

[EnviroBat]

77. They make me PUKE!

And I dig your avitar by the by...

[AlCzervik]

64. I have not had any fast food since december 15th 2004.

husband, daughter and i all stopped on that date, we watched "Supersize me" and yeah that was good but it was the interview on the Extras with Eric Scholsser that did it for me, it was all about corporate farming--really disgusting. I followed up by reading Fast Food nation and that was that, no more fast food.

[truth2power]

65. Nothing wrong with PETA. I don't know why people here are

so opposed to them.

Oh, and I wouldn't eat at KFC. Yuck! I'm vegetarian anyway.

[Chovexani]

139. I used to support them, but now they're just obnoxious

And worse, they make sane animal rights activists look crazy. The cause of animal rights is set back for years every time one of them opens their ignorant ass mouth (see: that BS regarding the Holocaust, a shark jump of epic proportions that was the final straw that made me stop donating money to them.). I care deeply about animal rights and try to only eat free range as much as I can (I am not and never will be vegetarian, because I have a firm belief in the proverbial Circle of Life). I have to tell you, every time I mention I care about animal rights to the average person, without fail I get "god you aren't one of those PETA whackos are you?" I'm not saying there isn't a place for creative protest, street theater, etc. in various movements but PETA seems to be filled with nothing but folks who think the best way to win hearts and minds and create change is to act out in the most infantile way possible to get your name in the paper. Despite being told in much kinder terms that juvenile bullshit turns people off to the message, they seem to plug their ears. In case you think I'm unfairly picking on PETA, I feel the same way about ANSWER and assholes that show up with Free Mumia signs at every god damn protest no matter what it's about. Hell, most fellow treehuggers I know in my daily life (even the vegetarians!) work hard to distance themselves from PETA. When your own audience thinks you're full of shit, there's a problem.

That said, I don't eat at KFC ever since I got one of the Top Secret Recipe guy's cookbook and learned how to make their stuff on my own (I've got their coleslaw down to a science--the secret's buttermilk). For fast food junkies like me those books are great because you can pretty much duplicate the offerings at most places and at the same time control what's put into them.

[Nedsdag]

68. I stopped eating chicken six years ago.

No dismembered fried, baked or roasted birds for me thank you.

No regrets.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

69. Occasionally.

It ain't good for me.

But every now and then I'll get a hankering.

[ecstatic]

71. Not really. But does the method of slaughter really matter?

The chickens are raised for the sole purpose of being slaughtered later. That is the cruel part. :shrug:

[Big Blue Marble]

113. Consider if you were the chicken...

would you rather have a quick death without prolonged suffering or be boiled to death?
We as humans are capable of providing quick death for those animals we use as food.
The problem is as so often happens profits get in the way. Greed again leads to suffering.

[bleedingheart]

74. Anytime I have eaten at KFC I become ill.

[ceile]

79. They've all closed w/in miles of where I live.

I never ate them in the first place (I prefer homemade fc), but lately I've noticed that they've all closed. The closest one is now a locally owned bike shop.

[TwilightGardener]

80. I knew I didn't want to click on this thread. I now wish I hadn't.

Why can't we eat meat without treating these poor animals like inanimate objects?

[The Stranger]

81. GO PETA!

As much as anyone will trash PETA, I will only support them the more. The media is constantly engaged in a smear campaign of PETA, and so many of the mind-enslaved repeat the attacks verbatim.

So I say GO PETA -- keep keepin' on, my brothers and sisters.

[Beaverhausen]

82. No- by the way, check out the nutritional info on those "bowls" they serve

this is a pdf file:

http://www.yum.com/nutrition/documents/kfc_nutrition.pdf

so if you can't open it I will give you a hint- those KFC Famous Bowls (with fried chicken, mashed potatoes, corn, gravy and cheese(?)) have:

740 calories
9 grams saturated fat
60 grams cholesterol
80 grams of carbs

and get this

2350 mgs of sodium.

They have a new one where they also give you a biscuit. I don't even want to know how that one counts out...

:scared:

[AlCzervik]

91. who the hell green lit cheese for that? I love cheese but it's application on that

thing is just wrong.

[Beaverhausen]

117. Who knows! Maybe there wasn't enough fat on it without the cheese

I am astounded every time I see the commercials for those things. Honestly, some people don't give a moments thought to what they eat.

[DerBeppo]

95. God, I love those things...

All this KFC talk has actually made me a bit hungry. I'll probably get one of those tonight.

[Big Blue Marble]

114. And what do you want to bet that a least the corn is GMO corn. NT

[LostinVA]

121. 9 grams of fat seems really low for that thing

I would think it was closer to 49.

[Beaverhausen]

123. You are right- it is 40 grams of fat total, 9 grams saturated

Isn't that about 2 days worth?

[LostinVA]

124. Ah -- I read your post wrong

Yeah, about that. And, it's not healthy fat like olive oil or peanut butter.

Jeebus.

[BlooInBloo]

83. mmmmm - i LOVE kfc!

[Jed Dilligan]

88. Poetic justice, in a way.

We subject them to a long, horrible death, eat them, and eventually die a long, horrible death because we ate them.

Balance zero, account closed.

[AngryAmish]

90. PETA wants to kill your dog

[DS1]

92. Their asshole employees are enough to keep me away

let alone this.

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

93. Yes, Cause The Least I Can Do For Those Poor Dead Chickens Is Not Allow Them To Have Died In Vain.

Don't eat there very often at all anyway though since I'm not really a big fan of their chicken, but from time to time we may stop there. I think it's absolutely horrible what I just read in your link though and shame on them for it. But since the KFC down the road from me already has fryers and fryers full of 'em, I might as well eat em lest they have died in vain right?

[DS1]

110. I have to ask if that's sarcasm

I've seen dumber things written in entire seriousness, so I'm asking now.

[Twillig]

122. Support the Coops! (n\t)

[slj0101]

94. I prefer Church's Chicken.

[BlooInBloo]

102. Church's is my fav! They're not out here tho :(

[high density]

96. Yeah I eat at KFC

Though the service is usually bad enough to make me avoid them for months afterwards. The service always is the very worst among fast food restaurants, no matter what franchise I visit.

I don't care much about what PETA says because too much coming from them is batshit crazy. They have a problem with boiling lobsters.

[Big Blue Marble]

115. So do I have a problem with lobsters being boiled alive.

Won't eat them. Rather not take the chance that they suffer.

[Beaverhausen]

126. Throwing living beings in a pot of boiling water? Yes, many people do have a problem with that

Go ahead, call me batshit crazy. :crazy:

[ScreamingWhisper]

152. I also hear that KFC purposely

allows their potatoes to roll willy-nilly down the conveyor belt...tumbling one over the other
in a careless, brutal fashion before being scalded, skinned... then mashed mercilessly into the yummy
paste they ultimately serve with the brown gravy.

Whose watching out for the potato rights, I ask you?

[kansan]

97. 100 workers

More than 100 workers at George’s, a poultry processing plant in Butterfield, Mo., were arrested today in a federal investigation into illegal immigration.

Special agents from the U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement and Social Security Administration's Office of Inspector General executed two federal criminal search warrants as part of an ongoing criminal investigation into identity fraud and employment of illegal aliens.

Those arrested today were from Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras and El Salvador. The Immigrations and Customs Enforcement office said in a written statement today the illegal immigrants will be transported to detention facilities in Wichita, Kan., Kansas City, Mo. and St. Louis after being processed.

http://www.joplinglobe.com/ May 22 2007

[NaturalHigh]

99. We've been boycotting them for a few years.

Our kids know why and agree with us.

[ScreamingWhisper]

103. sorry...have loved that original recipe for 32 years now...

and won't give it up. Eat that fowl meat possibly 3-5 times a week in one form or another.

[Colobo]

127. Amen! Don't give up on meat

just because some fringe group wants you to.

[Reterr]

130. Whether you like it or not

Most liberals do not consider compassion towards animals (yes even the ones who eat meat) a "fringe" idea. That would be most DUers-whether they like PETA or not. So I think it is you who are in a minority here.
The point was that KFC has exceptionally poor humane standards, which is why as some people are saying, they prefer to eat free-range meat.

Nothing fringe about that idea. Its only Freepers and other low-lives (and also a lot of psychopaths) in general who relish the fact that they don't care one whit about the kind of lives the animals they eat had and whether there was any compassion in the way they were treated. That is the main idea being talked about here. Like I said, most normal compassionate people, even if they consume meat, care a little bit about humane standards with regard to farm animals. It comes with the whole thing about being a compassionate liberal.

[Colobo]

136. I'm a despicable carnivore

What can I do?

[Anwen]

105. Gross!

Never. Not anymore. It's been over 5 years and I will NEVER go back. I never liked the food, anyway. But this is just disgusting...

[Warren DeMontague]

106. Nope! Haven't had KFC in 2 decades. Tonight I'm cooking free range chicken breasts from Whole Foods.

Yummy!

[piesRsquare]

111. Nope...no way

I keep kosher...

[Name removed]

112. Deleted message

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[judaspriestess]

118. so nice to eat that poor animals anguish and pain

such a healthy thing to put into your body!!

[BootinUp]

120. parts is parts.

I guess I am in a sarcastic mood.

[Colobo]

125. I eat there and will continue to do so

I like fried chicken.

[Colobo]

128. Oh, by the way, I don't like vegetables.

[The Stranger]

129. I think the idea is to give up something you may like based on principle.

You know, they mistreat animals and cause needless pain and anguish, and the idea being to have less of that in the world.

That sort of thing.

[nam78_two]

131. What a novel idea

Its almost the sort of thing some...liberal..would embrace. Its kinda the reason why I have been against this filthy war we are engaged in from the start, you know...even though I am not Iraqi and am unlikely to ever be drafted into the armed forces and by and large I would say this war hasn't affected me personally.

[flvegan]

142. "I like"

what else matters, right...neighbor.

[Idioteque]

134. KFC gentically modifies its chickens to make them gay.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RkFoqNuqnSI

Sorry I had to pimp my friend's video.

[bridgit]

138. butterball turkeys ain't no better...

http://www.goveg.com/feat/butterball/butterball.asp

[mzmolly]

140. OMG

:(

[Digit]

141. I have not frequented a KFC for years and it looks like that has been extended now.

It is overpriced anyway, but your post just adds another dimension.

[Shallah Kali]

143. If cruelty won't stop people from eating KFC consider the arsenic in the chickens

from KFC, other fast food places, and grocery stores. Most chickens are fed arsenic to make them grow bigger faster. This is banned in many countries but not the US even after recent studies show that the organic arsenic turns into inorganic arsenic which is the deadliest form.

Playing chicken: Avoding arsenic in your meat
http://www.iatp.org/iatp/publications.cfm?accountID=421&refID=80529

ScienceDaily: Arsenic In Chicken Feed May Pose Health Risks To Humans
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/04/070409115746.htm

Chemical & Engineering News: Government & Policy - Arsenic In Chicken Production
http://pubs.acs.org/cen/government/85/8515gov2.html


Humane Society: Study Has Many Clucking about Elevated Levels of Arsenic Found in Chicken
http://www.hsus.org/farm/news/ournews/arsenic_in_chicken_meat.html

Tyson was sued a few years ago over chicken manure full of arsenic spread around a small town and a large jump in rare cancers. sorry I don't have a link right now.

[HuffleClaw]

144. they suck! icky horrible stuff fit only for heffelumps and woozles!

i've NEVER like KFC, even when i was a kid. many people i know think its a treat, but even the smell of it turns my stomach. literally.

[Raine]

149. NO way

idon't eat meat...PERIOD. :puke:

[sakabatou]

150. It's not kosher

[donheld]

151. KFC has no flavor

Popeyes is where it's at.