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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:16 AM
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John Dean: Congress has power to jail Gonzales themselves
theoretical power, at least. Dean paints an interesting picture.

http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20070518.html

If Congress Operated Like Gonzales

Recently, Gonzales's refused to fully comply with the subpoena for Karl Rove's emails regarding his involvement in the firing of the U.S. Attorneys. His refusal caused me to mull what it would be like if Congress were to proceed as Gonzales has -without a shred of respect for the other branches of government.

Congress could hold Gonzales in contempt by a simple majority vote (and that would not be difficult to obtain, given the feelings in both chambers about this Attorney General). It could hold him in contempt for his failure to respond to the subpoena he virtually ignored, or for his lies to the Senate Judiciary Committee, which I will explain shortly.

Congress has two routes to travel, once it holds any person in contempt. It can proceed by the statutory route, which requires the Department of Justice to handle the prosecution. But since the Attorney General could block that route, the Congress would have good reason to use its inherent powers and procedures, instead.

Thus, Congress could --taking a page from Gonzales's playbook -- send fifteen plainclothes Capitol Hill police officers to arrest the Attorney General and take him into custody. Either the House or Senate, alone, would have the power to hold him until the end of the 110th Congress. In truth, a majority of either chamber of Congress has more power than a president, the Department of Justice, and federal courts to take summary actions against those who refuse to honor its processes.

Of course, this is not likely to happen. Congress has the power to do so if it so chooses. But because most of those in Washington with experience do not think like Gonzales, they will exhibit respect for interbranch customs instead of simply jailing the Attorney General.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:18 AM
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1. put his fascists ass in jail or let everybody else out!
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:23 AM
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2. Arrest him! Make me believe in justice! K and R
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:33 AM
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3. Take the key & lock him up. Lock him up. Lock him up.
Take the key and lock him up.

He's a hoodlum.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:39 AM
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4. what is stopping this Congress to do something.
Gonzo has committed many crimes, a "no confidence" vote, is only a slap on the wrist.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:53 AM
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5. Will never happen. Congress is complicit. They never expected to win a majority
and they never expected to have to pretend to uphold the Constitution without actually doing it. We've got a Congress full of Arlen Specters.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 09:59 AM
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6. IIRC there is a jail in the basement of the Capitol.
:-)
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 10:03 AM
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8. they might need to interrogate him
:evilgrin:
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 10:02 AM
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7. How much more can we take?
Gonzalez has been shredding the constitution for a long time, and shows no sign of stopping. If Bush won't fire him, Congress needs to do something ASAP.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 10:43 AM
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9. PROBLEM RESOLVED %^)
from an undisclosed location, and unidentified source has proposed a solution for several of today's problems--
in an amazing shake-up....

world bank president will be replaced by his girlfriend to justify her new pay level

wolfie will move to attorney general

gonzo will replace the air traffic guy who locked his employees in

the air traffic guy will go to work for the world bank...

----- this message has been approved by W, DC, and Rudy G
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caligirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-18-07 11:05 AM
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10. Isn't this reminescent of what Texas repugs did to dems when they sent
Edited on Fri May-18-07 11:05 AM by caligirl
feds after dems. (Delay redistricting/census scheme)
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