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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:31 PM
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Wow this guy on tweety's show is great.
Made the point that extremists see God in their own image so they are basically worshiping themselves. Boy is that true.

Says religion is not something to be played around with and taken lightly.

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:32 PM
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1. Ha, their gods are their own little mini-mes. nt
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lob1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:34 PM
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2. If God doesn't strike down who you want him to, what good is he?
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:36 PM
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5. Ahem,
'She'. :P
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:34 PM
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3. Snaps - Well played!
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tabatha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:36 PM
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4. Welton Gaddy ?
He used to have a show on Air America
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:37 PM
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6. Any idea who it is?
Any chance it's Barry Lynn?
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:38 PM
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7. No, it's Gaddy. I watched that segment on Tweety's 5 pm segment.
I know who Barry Lynn is (a constitutional lawyer and an ordained minister) and it's not him...
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SDuderstadt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:41 PM
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8. I'd like to know more about Welton Gaddy...
I never him of him on Air America, but I listened mostly to Al Franken.
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:45 PM
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9. Welton Gaddy
was on Air America, I listened to him every weekend. He is great and agreed with him whenever he aired.
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Monique1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:48 PM
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10. Info Welton Gaddy
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:51 PM
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11. What a good guy...taking on "his own" southern baptists....
that takes some courage...
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:42 PM
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18. he was on with rachel last night. i like him. eom
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Diamonique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 06:55 PM
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12. I loved it when he said our politicians need to stop using religion to get votes.
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RandomThoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:01 PM
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13. Interesting point.
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 07:03 PM by RandomThoughts
The point is everyone has to decide what God means to them, or what God means to some teachings through someone they believe spoke for God.

If you follow the writings of any text, then you follow the way the writer of that text saw God, or you believe them inspired by God. It is still belief, as someone chooses it.

It seems it is a comment that people should follow some inspired person, but you have to choose who is inspired, and in doing that the person does the same thing that person spoke of. If it is true how you choose to believe is worshiping yourself then everyone does that, not something I believe.

In each case it is a person deciding what God is. You can't avoid that what a person feels God is, comes from a choice, but once a person makes that choice, they find, in my view, the one true God, or some find a false thing they chose to believe in.

(although that is my belief, that God is love sharing and kindness, while anger selfishness and hate are false things.)

So if you believe God is hate, you will find that source, if you believe God is love, you will find that source. In my view there is only one true God, but that is a choice of belief, and the one I try and find when I am in better thoughts, And in my belief the One True God is of thoughts of love and kindness.



Some people follow an established religion and think that is different then a person following a belief. It is the same thing, just by proxy. I do think teachings on religious thoughts is good, it can help share challenges and paths that helped people find better ideas, although it is still belief even if by proxy.


In other words, if you believe in the Koran, Bible, or laws handed down by Moses, that is no different then the person that believes by their beliefs in the context of that statement, unless you 'believe' those laws are part of divine inspiration. So each idea weather through some other text, or through ideas of belief, still is a person choosing what they think God is.


Do some see God in the image of a divine figure, or prophet from the past? Then by that argument in the OP they would be worshiping that divine figure, person, or prophet.

I think the argument is flawed, or includes many religions also, but agree many find sources that are better or worse.


I think it is following the ideals taught through better inspired sources. Not yourself, or any other person. But that is just my thoughts.
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:38 PM
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14. Yet he limited this to extremists probably because they have no doubt that theirs is the only way.
Edited on Wed Sep-08-10 07:39 PM by dkf
A normal person standing back and reflecting just may put an ounce of doubt as to the validity of certain views and not act upon them. But an extremist believes they are right to the point of violence.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 07:41 PM
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15. My God is an awesome god and cannot be truncated down to a book or my mind
They claim my author but what they describe is too often small, uncaring, cruel, and petty.

I've known a few better mere mortal creations greater than can be encompassed in big books and small minds.
I only hope that their evil distraction doesn't hide a path to much more for any of my brothers and sisters and that we as a people find a way to live our values in such a way that we prove the haters outliers to even the impressionable potential enemy.



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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:04 PM
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16. Yeah this is where I'm at too.
So far I've been sadly disillusioned by some point or other of the major religions. I'm probably closest to Zen Buddhism.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:07 PM
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17. Imagine no religion.
Its easy if you try. ;)
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-08-10 08:45 PM
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19. that is so spot on...
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:04 AM
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20. I'm worried that Beck is getting all religious. For sure he'll create something
in his own image.
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-09-10 12:11 AM
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21. Here's a link to the video of the segment w/ Welton Gaddy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjWhn-I6VWc

Chris Matthews talks to Pastor Wayne Sapp of Dove Outreach World Center. Also comments from Rev. Welton Gaddy (Interfaith Alliance), Gen. David Petraeus & Hillary Clinton.

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