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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 06:37 PM
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Wash. Examiner's Owens suggests right-wing violence will be necessary, hopes we "feel threatened"
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 06:41 PM by RamboLiberal
Earlier today, I pointed out that conservative media figures have recently been ramping up discussion of possible civil war and armed revolt. Conservative blogger Bob "Confederate Yankee" Owens, who was recently hired by the Washington Examiner, stated that nations that have supposedly collapsed as far as ours have the need to either "reform or replace their governments," and "reform increasingly seems to be a fleeting option." Perhaps to prove my point, Owens now says Media Matters should "feel threatened" by him, and even suggests that violence will be necessary.

In a new post titled "Closer to Midnight", Owens responds to my earlier post by writing: "They portray it as a threat when 'Conservative media figures openly discuss armed revolution.' I hope they do feel threatened." He adds that our "feigned ignorance" and "mockery" in the face of "peaceable protests" means that "perhaps it will take a serious review of our capacity for violence to get them to realize we shall not surrender our individual liberties to their lust for power."

We have moved "closer to midnight" not because of any singular act , but because of inertia of a political class that does not respect or enforce the laws, or this nation's sovereignty. We have diametrically opposed views of how our nation can and should be run, and it appears that there is very little room left for negotiation.

Propagandists for the elitists at Media Matters seem troubled by A Nation on the Edge of Revolt. They portray it as a threat when "Conservative media figures openly discuss armed revolution."

I hope they do feel threatened. Attempts at peaceable protests have been met at turns by feigned ignorance, then mockery, then attacks on the character and motives of those would not sit quietly by. Perhaps it will take a serious review of our capacity for violence to get them to realize we shall not surrender our individual liberties to their lust for power.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201008030038

A Nation on the Edge of Revolt
Ernest S. Christian and Gary A. Roberts wonder aloud whether the power grabs of the Obama Administration and the ruling class mentality of entrenched Democrat and Republican political machines will lead to a second Revolutionary War.

I'll lay it out bluntly for you; either the American people—not extremists, but good and decent patriots like your neighbors and yourselves—will revolt and destroy the ruling class and reform our government based upon first principles, or the United States we know as our forefather conceived it is dead.

I do not state this as hyperbole. I do not state this to incite violence. I state this as nothing more or less than an observation of both history and current events. While we are a relatively young nation, our government is the oldest on the planet. Since our founders met in Philadelphia, the French have gone through five republics. Every nation in Europe, Africa, Asia, South America and North America has seen governments rise and fall, but our resilient democratic republic, the "Great Experiment," has soldiered on.

All cultures and governments, however, rot. This inevitably comes from inside, as a cancer. Our politicians view the people as rubes and subjects, and treat them as such. They imagine themselves a ruling class that exists for their own edification, at the expense of the nation as a whole.

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/304143.php#Scene_1

We have moved "closer to midnight" not because of any singular act , but because of inertia of a political class that does not respect or enforce the laws, or this nation's sovereignty. We have diametrically opposed views of how our nation can and should be run, and it appears that there is very little room left for negotiation.

Propagandists for the elitists at Media Matters seem troubled by A Nation on the Edge of Revolt. They portray it as a threat when "Conservative media figures openly discuss armed revolution."

I hope they do feel threatened. Attempts at peaceable protests have been met at turns by feigned ignorance, then mockery, then attacks on the character and motives of those would not sit quietly by. Perhaps it will take a serious review of our capacity for violence to get them to realize we shall not surrender our individual liberties to their lust for power.

I have not yet been swayed to the point of view that an armed conflict is inevitable, TN_NamVolunteer. But we are close enough that one would be wise to prepare for a possible conflict, just as one would prepare for any coming storm.

http://confederateyankee.mu.nu/archives/304223.php#Scene_1

They do want blood in the streets! Then when an Oklahoma City or a political assasination occurs they will all feign innocence. Who me advocate violence?
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 06:41 PM
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1. The main threat to America is their FAIL, hate, and fear
Edited on Tue Aug-03-10 06:44 PM by SpiralHawk
The ReBaglicons just keep making shit up to keep themselves lathered up in a perpetual state of cowering fear and blind rage in their psychological Homeland. Pathetic to see adult act this way -- they should move back to the 'land of the free and the home of the brave' - that would be the United States America, a place they have abandoned in their souls.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 06:45 PM
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2. For the record - we never advocated armed violence under W.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 06:52 PM
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3. Again, what are these "liberties" they've lost under Obama?
Most of the problems I see on that front actually originated with GW Bush's Administration, and these belligerant rubes cheered for it. I can't stand Obama's continued support for many of these policies, but the fact that these right-wing loons didn't complain about Bush's overreach tells me they're not upset about the same things I'm upset about.

So I'd love it if they'd once and for all state what they've lost.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 07:02 PM
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7. what they call "liberty" we call "white priviledge" (nt)
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 07:29 PM
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10. Health insurance companies can no longer deny based on pre-existing conditions
At least not until 2014.

Oh the tyranny!
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 06:53 PM
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4. oh, I guess you teabaggers can replace the democratically elected government
and it's non-profit (=elitist=evil) watchdogs with entities supported by Rupert Mudoch and Saudi Prince Alwaleed bin Talal, co-owners of Fox News (who you get your talking points from).
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 06:56 PM
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5. Violence for what purpose?
What do they want to change? Do they want MORE corporate control? LESS taxes on the rich? HIGHER health insurance costs? What?

I'm mystified by exactly WHAT they'd like to see done differently.
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w8liftinglady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 06:57 PM
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6. for the record-face to face confrontation with a "singular" neocon-
multiple times...they are chickenshits unless they are in groups.bring it on.
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rbrnmw Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 07:03 PM
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8. Observation my ass it is Inciting Violence nt
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-03-10 07:04 PM
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9. They've already killed a lot of innocents. Since we've done nothing in response,
they don't really have anything to fear.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 11:38 AM
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11. They will do it. Don't even question it.
If these people can lie, breach their professional ethics, take over law enforcement agencies with their tainted agenda, what makes you think they have any limitation at all?
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