To those bent out of shape about the latest Wikileaks release and so vexed

[TheKentuckian]

Most of you are endangering the troops by campaigning to put them in harm's way for bogus reasons and the purpose of gain for a greedy few.

You are culpable for the waste of our blood and our treasure!

You cheer lead for wasting our nation away on folly.

You give the political cover need to allow this farce to go on by standing shoulder to shoulder with the most batshit neocons and cowardly xenophobes in supporting a foolhardy war.

You disparage what this nation stood for at least in word when it was great by running down hero's to peace, democracy, civilian control of the military.

Rage all you want, many of us will celebrate these brave men and support them from squawking chickenhawks and the phony brave as well as the deluded.

Only now do you cry about spilled blood, cries for lackeys while babies are collateral damage.

[BootinUp]

1. I abstain. nt

[stranger81]

2. WORD. [n/t]

[truedelphi]

3. The Insane Asylum is now completely managed by those in league

With the military industrial complex.

We have no Senator Hatfield's. We have no Bobby Kennedy's.

We have only the shills of both parties who are all much more terrified of Truth and the exposure of how their perpetual war on terror is a made-up soup meant for the profits of the Defense Industry.

Just like Vietnam, the two wars were never wars intended to be won.

Our only hope seems to be if someone in a lab somewhere can clone Dwight Eisenhower and put him back in office.

[TheKentuckian]

4. and the People said, AMEN!

[texastoast]

5. Those Wiki guys committed treason

under the current laws of the United States.

I like and celebrate their ballsiness as much as you and they do, but treason it was. And even more blood likely will be on their hands (or maybe less--if because of their treason, the MIC were to actually change its course of action, doubtful but hopeful here). My guess is they have accomplished little.

CodePink flamesuit on.

[nosmokes]

6. Treason's OK now. Look at Cheney and Co.

They were never even charged and their crimes were much more serious to my way of thinking.

edit to add: not that I believe wikileaks committed any crime, or if they have it certainly hasn't been shown to me. The only 'evidence' is from the pentagon and I wouldn't believe them if they told me the sky was blue.

[TheKentuckian]

7. The perpetrators of this scuttling of our nation, callous wasting of our own blood, and pillaging

of our treasure are the traitors.

[truedelphi]

9. Especially given that NONE of the documents released

were involved with on going military operations, but actions and events that were over several months before Wikileaks went and published the docs.

Fifteen thousand pages of documents were held back, as they did pertain to current military ops.

[provis99]

8. they are not Americans. They did not commit treason.

Get your facts straight.

[texastoast]

12. You are right.

But if Julian were American, he would have. Maybe we will eventually classify him as a clever hacker criminal, depending on how it works out he got the info. But this feels like semantics.

[EFerrari]

11. Don't mistake the law for a moral compass. n/t

[daleo]

15. If a Russian would have done this in the '80s

i.e. leak about their Afghanistan war - We would have called him a hero!

[EFerrari]

10. Next Bradley Manning support thread will be up Sunday night.

Be there.

[TheKentuckian]

13. I won't be square

[femrap]

14. I'm old enough to

remember watching Walter Cronkite every night during the Vietnam War. There were dead bodies everywhere. We saw war up close.

Today, no one sees a thing.

We have absolutely no idea what is going on in Afghanistan or Iraq. They'll never let us see the bases they have built.

We don't see what it's like to live in Baghdad with only a few hours of electricity.

When Julian said he was going to leak the sexual abuses done in the name of the Pentagon, I'm sure there are thousands if not millions...and against our own women soldiers.

Go Julian. Show them what war is and what is done in the name of 'democracy.'