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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:34 AM
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Do you find this confusing or funny? Iowa GOP creates plan to strip Obama of citizenship
"At its state convention in Des Moines last month, the Iowa GOP adopted a new party platform that includes the repeal of mandatory minimum wage laws, the elimination of the U.S. Department of Education, and even clarification on the definition of manure. Out of the “387 enumerated planks and principles,” Newsweek’s Jerry Adler found the most “startling” section of the platform calls for “the reintroduction and ratification of the original 13th Amendment.”

Adopted in December 1865, the current 13th Amendment of the Constitution prohibits “slavery” and “involuntary servitude” in the United States or any place under its jurisdiction. The Iowa GOP is not trying to overturn this amendment to reinstate slavery. Instead, it wants to reintroduce the “original 13th Amendment” first offered by senator Phillip Reed of Maryland in 1810. The amendment states that “if any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive or retain any title of nobility or honor” from a “foreign power, such person shall cease to be a citizen” and “shall be incapable of holding any office of trust.” In receiving only 12 out of the 13 votes needed for ratification, the amendment was never adopted.

Traditional supporters of the idea are known as “Thirteenthers,” who seek to prevent those with the title of “esquire,” such as lawyers and bankers, from participating in government. But according to its spokeswoman, Danielle Plogmann, the Iowa GOP supports it as an attack on President Obama’s Nobel Prize win:

There are, of course, other implications of Thirteenthism, such as ensuring that the United States never again suffers the humiliation of having a president win the Nobel Peace Prize. That was just what the Iowa Republicans had in mind, according to Plogmann, who wrote in an e-mail that the plank “was meant to make a statement about the delegates’ opinion about Mr. Obama receiving the prize.” (Presumably they didn’t mind if, in the process, they were also making a statement about any American scientist or writer unlucky enough to win a Nobel.) Unfortunately for them, the Department of Justice looked into whether Obama needed Congressional approval to accept the Nobel under the existing emoluments clause, and based on the meaning of “foreign state” (which would not cover the Nobel Prize Committee) concluded that he did not.

Iowa is currently “the only state where this type of plank has been introduced into the GOP platform.” While chances are indeed remote that such a measure would pass, should the Iowa GOP and “Thirteenthers” successfully push their belief, “every act of federal government since 1819,” including the abolition of slavery, “would be delegitimized.” (HT: Iowa Independent)"

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/07/28/iowa-gop-supports-amendment-to-strip-obamas-citizenship-because-he-won-the-nobel-peace-prize/

"Attention, everyone! So, here's our plan to get Obama. We get Republicans in power, then we get this amendment against titles going, yeah? And then we get that passed, everyone votes on it, it becomes an amendment, and then we can declare Obama not to be a citizen! Yeah!"

Great plan there, really. But you guys kinda, maybe, just maybe, forgot about the fact that retroactive laws might be a little bit unconstitutional (Article 1, Section 9).

And yes, the Iowa GOP is the Iowa Republican Party, one of the two major parties there. Just run that through your head for a second.
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rbrnmw Donating Member (789 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:36 AM
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1. Just makes me sad It is all about hate and the color of his skin n/t
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:36 AM
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2. Niether. I find it ludicrous and beyond stupid. nt
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Submariner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:40 AM
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3. These people used to wear hoods. They took them off in November 2008 n/t
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:46 AM
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4. That seems quite reasonable
for them.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 05:46 AM
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5. Foreign power? Title of nobiity?
Like a title of nobility from the "Invisible Empire" -- that of "Grand Dragon" or "Exalted Wizard" -- right?

"Just askin'".

--d!
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sarge43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:39 AM
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6. But didn't they clarify the definition of manure?
These people drive, vote, reproduce ..... sigh.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 06:59 AM
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7. I find it encouraging; the more they adopt off-the-rails platforms, the more ridiculous they
will appear to the general public. Go GOP! Keep tilting at windmills!
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:02 AM
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8. Somebody, for the love of GOD, kick these idiots dead in the balls.
I'm talking NFL punter. SO goddamned tired of these neo-Klan racist birthers.
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polmaven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:34 AM
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13. Where shall we kick the women?
:shrug:
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Motown_Johnny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:03 AM
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9. If limited to those choices, I think it is funny.

that amendment couldn't be ratified 200 years ago and they think they can ratify it now


it shows just how delusional they are


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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:08 AM
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10. Aha! So they admit that he currently is a citizen?
Take that, birthers!
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:19 AM
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11. I find it insane. Let's dig up an ancient amendment that was never ratified and try to push
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 09:20 AM by sinkingfeeling
the rest of the country to see a need for it. Good going Iowan Teapublicans!!
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:23 AM
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12. racism thru legislation
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mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:39 AM
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14. This from the most progressive state in the Midwest
The wingnuts in Iowa are desperate for attention.
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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:40 AM
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15. That's awesome
So these guys are just marginalizing themselves even further?
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