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Flipper999 Donating Member (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:40 PM
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MSNBC Says we're outnumbered
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2010/07/22/4729317-memo-to-liberals-youre-outnumbered

*sigh* I guess we should give up like sensible democrats.

:sarcasm:
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:44 PM
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1. Yes, and I responded to the writer of that piece.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8794489&mesg_id=8794489

Does NBC really need Chuck Todd AND this guy? Isn't one right winger pretending to be a journalist enough? Murray is from Texas, that's all we need to know. :eyes:
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:44 PM
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2. A better conclusion to draw is that we should be targeting the general public
selling the liberal brand and ideals to the public at large, so it's more practical for politicians to push through more liberal agenda items.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:47 PM
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3. It's the pragmatic thing to do
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:48 PM
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4. That's how I read it at first too...
Then, when I calmed down - I read it again. My take on the article is... Old Ronnie Ray Gun changed the trajectory of America in a way Carter, Clinton, and both Bush Wackers did not. I also think he was saying that history may well show that President Obama is changing the trajectory of America back to the left.

Time will tell...

I say, don't give up, give 'em hell - we may just be changing America for the better.
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Silent3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:49 PM
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5. I don't seen anything there that suggests giving up
It's more a question of how those of us who'd like to see a more liberal and progressive agenda frame our disappointments. I don't see it as a reason to give up, but a reason to work harder to make a more progressive agenda more appealing to more voters.

It isn't and won't be easy, even though the all of the harm Republicans and so-called conservatives have caused seems like it should make progressive reforms an easy sell.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 12:49 PM
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6. He makes a worthwhile point.
:shrug:
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:38 PM
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7. I think Democrats outnumber republicans about 3 to 1
and more are leaving the republicans and going to Democrat or Independents every day.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 01:48 PM
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8. Rational and informed human beings outnumber the Media Monster Propagandist.

Until they take you to room 101 and then you love big brother.


They FEAR US......... BECAUSE WE SPEAK THE TRUTH
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-22-10 04:02 PM
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9. blah, blah, blah....more nonsense from nsnbc.
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