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JudyInTheHeartland Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:52 PM
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Al Gore sex investigation to be re-opened, say Portland police
Source: New York Post

An investigation into claims of sexual assault by former U.S. vice president Al Gore is to be re-opened, Portland police said Wednesday.

The move came after the massage therapist that accused Gore of mauling her in a hotel room in late 2006 was identified as Molly Hagerty.

In a statement Wednesday, police officials said: "The Portland Police Bureau has made the decision to re-open the case regarding the allegations brought forward against Mr. Al Gore.

"Consistent with our policy regarding open investigations, the Police Bureau will not be commenting on any additional specifics regarding this case at this time."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/f/print/news/national/al_gore_sex...
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TerribleLarryDingle Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:54 PM
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1. Oh boy just in time for the elections.
Coincidence?
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:56 PM
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2. What's Al running for?
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TerribleLarryDingle Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:01 PM
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6. Well it's not like
Republicant's aren't going to try to use this against Democrats.
Do you think the are above that? I mean he invented the Internet and Global Warming.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:55 PM
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:59 PM
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28. They didn't hound VITTER and his diapers why should they hound Gore
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 09:59 PM by Rosa Luxemburg
besides she was probably set up to try.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:06 AM
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38. Your photo is disgusting and does NOT belong here.
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 01:06 AM by earth mom
How is it ok for you to disrespect former Vice President Gore but no one can say one bad word about Obama? :wtf:
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femmocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:57 PM
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3. Not good.
x(

Wonder who is behind this?
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:59 PM
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5. Yeah,like those ridiculous Edwards rumors.
:sarcasm:
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liquid diamond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:43 PM
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23. lol. n/t
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-02-10 08:46 AM
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77. Everything that is printed in the National Enquirer is not true. Are their Obama sex escapade
rumors true too?
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:26 PM
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8. Hmm, maybe Al Gore?
n/t
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 07:58 PM
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4. It could exonerate him and show the MT for the fraud she might be
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:21 PM
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7. Evidence?
Two years later. All this can end up being is a "he said, she said" case. Interesting choice of words, "mauling." Isn't that what dogs do to small children? Leave it to that Murdoch rag to come up with the most inflammatory discription.


I wonder what the statute of limitations is on cases like this. Was she running out of time? Did a shakedown not work and it's now time for some fifteen minutes of fame?

THis is just too Paula Jones for me to take seriously.
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:31 PM
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9. Too late to get on the Tiger Woods bus...
From the article (NY Post would you believe?)

"Last week, National Enquirer executive editor Barry Levine told The Washington Post that they did not pay the accuser for the story even though she asked for $1 million."

She claims to have surveillance video and DNA evidence...

Betting against.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:33 PM
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10. Her story is too good to be true

The View had a segment on this and they read off some of the things Gore is accused of and some of it was ridiculous. It was obvious why the police didn't take it seriously the first time.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:41 PM
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12. I listened to the tape...could not listen to the whole thing...she read the
statement like she was reading a script someone wrote....I personally don't believe her..
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:33 PM
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22. certainly she writes well for a masseuse - sounds like Rover hired a xxx novelist for the job
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 11:55 PM
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35. That thing about Portland being the home of the "Birkenstock Tribe" or some shit
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 12:02 AM by Warren DeMontague
sure sounds like something that was written in a back room at FOX News.
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chaste labradoodle Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:30 AM
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55. No....actually from my morning paper's account
she said that her friends encouraged her to keep quiet, that they were the Birkenstock Tribe (all very liberal, including her).
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:15 PM
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69. Not buying it...
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 03:17 PM by Warren DeMontague
sorry.

PS. You must be a 12 stepper, the way you "keep coming back". :rofl:
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:52 AM
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37. I for one believe Al to be celibate
hehe.
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Stargazer09 Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:40 PM
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11. If I were the Portland police
I would re-open the case just to keep the media at bay for a while. "Can't talk. Investigation pending."
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:50 PM
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13. She claims to have "video surveillance." In a hotel room? Hidden cameras? n/t
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crazyjoe Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 06:18 AM
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46. and a pair of pant's with al's "goo" on them.
just saw that on GMA.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:13 AM
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52. Why would there be hidden cameras in Gore's hotel room?
That sounds really fishy.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:53 PM
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14. Howard Dean and Al Gore born same year and the lies build but are not true
Can not believe this massage therapist is going after Al Gore?
This will not improve her business or her life.
Although the GOP may pay and promote her like Joe the Plumber who used it to get a job

Nov 17 1948 I believe is Howard Dean
Al is April 1948

The lies that people spread and they stick even though not true
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politicalmajority Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 08:57 PM
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15. It's a Witch Hunt
Our great former President Al Gore is not a person who would do such a thing.

It's a police witch hunt against an innocent and noble human being.

Shame on you, the Portland police.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 11:37 PM
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34. Same was said about Edwards.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:05 PM
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16. A moneymaker for the tabloid Oregonian!
just what that failing paper needs.
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thecrow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:07 PM
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17. Wonder if this is why Al and Tipper are divorcing....
just wondering.
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:14 PM
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18. LOL I said so too earlier.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...

Chances are, if these allegations are true (i hope they aren't) then this=the smoking gun.
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kiranon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:18 PM
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19. Not very wise to go to a masseuse if you are a public figure. n/t
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:49 PM
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25. People get massages all the time. What's wrong with that?
There really are legitimate masseuses, you know.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:34 AM
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40. they do, but if you're a prominent man, it's best not to have a
masseuse come to your hotel room at 10:30 at night.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:26 PM
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20. This stinks of Rove.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 11:28 PM
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32. +1
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chaste labradoodle Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:34 AM
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59. What stinks of Rove?
Does Tipper filing for divorce stink of Rove, too? :rofl:

Please dear Lord in Heaven tell me you forgot the sarcasm thingie!
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:27 PM
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21. 4 years later she brings this up just in time for elections - sounds about right
the repugs are at it again
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Lindsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:55 PM
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27. I agree that it has Kove written all over it. n/t
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 09:47 PM
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24. This news story is from Murdoch's NY Post.
Look who is trying to breathe life into this episode. Murdoch's empire.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 10:10 PM
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29. McCarthyism is alive and well in the Good Ole US of A. n/t
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 04:38 AM
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42. this has zip to do with McCarthy or McCarthyism
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 04:38 AM by cali
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 10:34 PM
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30. the act was supposed to have happened in 2006
the victim tried to press charges in 2008
the police dropped the case in 2009
but in 2010 they are going to re-open it?

does not pass the smell test!
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:35 AM
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60. The victim refused to press charges --
she filed a complaint but refused to press charges and blew off three police interviews, then told the police she preferred to go the "civil route" ($$$$$$$)

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mbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 10:37 PM
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31. We can't investigate 911, stolen elections, regulating energy
markets, fraudulent banking practices or anything that's really important, but by gosh we must investigate Al Gore - what hogwash!
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 04:39 AM
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43. and a local police investigation has just what to do with what you mentioned?
try nothing whatsoever.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 04:55 AM
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44. Amazing isn't it? You are absolutely correct. We can investigate
garbage charges, already found to be not worth the time of the police, but not war crimes, election fraud, 9/11 or Wall St. corruption.

The 'rule of law' is very unevenly applied in this country. Our priorities on what warrants the application of the rule of law, are stunningly hypocritical.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-30-10 11:30 PM
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33. typical GOP dirty tricks
Edited on Wed Jun-30-10 11:31 PM by TexasObserver
I believe her entire story and effort were created by GOP operatives to tarnish Al Gore in 2006, in case he was thinking about running in 2008 for president. Preemptive action.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 04:14 AM
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41. Yep.
And now that the news about the breakup is out, she's dumb enough to think she might be able to finagle a payoff.

I wouldn't be surprised to see her handlers hang her out to dry. The po-po and the operatives may all have gotten a gutful of her by now.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 06:05 AM
Response to Reply #33
45. Big Oil's answer to Global Warming:
Attack Al Gore...
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:46 PM
Response to Reply #45
67. This is going to be used to tarnish Gore's advocacy, the science behind Climate Change, and Cap and
Trade. It really doesn't matter that there is no connection between this and the science, this will be used to trash the idea as a whole, and used to derail legal reform on the issue.
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studio 51 area 54 Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:26 PM
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64. And it's being reopened because....?
And she's from a very progressive area, claims her peeps are Birkenstock Tribe, etc. She didn't want to sully his rep when he was getting his Nobel prize or whatever. Her friends pleaded with her not to do so.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:06 PM
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65. Sell that story to someone who will buy it.
She's a scammer.
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akbacchus_BC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:50 AM
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36. I am wondering who paid her to come forward now, Al Gore is not
running for any office. These effing GOPers will clutch at a straw to try and bring a Democrat down.

Anybody see any pictures of this person? Not that it matters but this BS is tiresome! Blame the Dems so that the repugs can get their way. What is America coming to? Oh, I forgot, freedom of speech and wasting time to investigate.

Don't we have better things to do, like writing to those frigging 23 Dems who are blocking the extension of unemployment benefits?

We need to identify decent Dems who are for the people, campaign for them and get them elected rather than those clowns who have been elected and are going against the people who elected them. I hate to say this, they work for us and for crying out, we elected them, about time they represent us!

End of rant.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:10 AM
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39. I wouldn't be surprised if those rethug bastards are worried Gore will run & win because of the BP
gusher.

Now more than ever people in this country are realizing that we can't continue our crazy and destructive dependence on oil.

Gore would win in a landslide, no doubt in my mind!

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 07:45 AM
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48. I think it's important to the Rove "legacy" project to slime Al. .
After all, he WAS elected President in 2000

(removal of the uncounted ballots after Supremes decision)


(Gore directing Katrina rescue efforts)



(while B*sh ate cake with McCain during Katrina)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:34 PM
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72. It's not just running for office, global warming climate change legislation is up and they want to
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 03:35 PM by Uncle Joe
discredit the prime political protagonist of that issue.

In the first report of this, the woman claimed she was after justice and not money she also broke three appointments with the police telling them she wanted to pursue a civil trial and not a criminal one, of course that's at odds with the "justice not money" claim.



"Last week, National Enquirer executive editor Barry Levine told The Washington Post that they did not pay the accuser for the story even though she asked for $1 million."



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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 04:54 PM
Response to Reply #36
74. Are you suggesting that there might be rich, powerful entities w/ a vested interest in
ruining Al Gore's public image?

Wow. Who could possibly fit that description? :shrug:

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bergie321 Donating Member (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 05:13 PM
Response to Reply #36
75. Oil
Is gushing into the Gulf of Mexico, which leads to bad press and renewed interest in energy legislation.

Quick, trump up a sex scandal starring the most famous climate advocate!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 06:21 AM
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47. Maybe Al should run for Gropenator of "Kolley-4-knee-ya"
It's okay to grope if you have that (R)
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okieinpain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 09:51 AM
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49. i do find it a little funny that he distance himself from pres. clinton.
now I wonder how he feels with someone attacking his personal life.
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Rob H. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:00 AM
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50. I posted this last week, so apologies if you've already seen it
Edited on Thu Jul-01-10 11:51 AM by Rob H.
There are some really weird inconsistencies in her story. (All emphases added below by me.)

In this article, the author writes that

The woman told investigators that she informed two friends and kept the clothes she wore that night, including her black pants with stains on them. But Portland police didn't contact any of the woman's friends, obtain the potential evidence or interview anyone at the hotel, records show.


...but in this article, she said

"I did not immediately call the police as I feared being made into a public spectacle and my reputation being destroyed," she said. "I was not sure what to tell them and was concerned my story would not be believed since there was no DNA evidence from a completed act of rape. I did not even know what to call what had happened to me."


And now she's gone back to saying she does have DNA evidence.

So which is it? Were there stains/fluids or not? It's hard not to believe she might be lying when she can't seem to keep her story straight.
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:06 AM
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51. Wonder how much she's been paid to assist in the discrediting of one of the
most vocal politicians on Climate Change and Clean Energy.

Maybe I'm way off base here, maybe not. It's just my lil ole humble opinion. Apologies.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:15 AM
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53. Portland police have a terrible reputation
we recently had a thread about a police brutality case there. From what I gather, it was far from an islated incident.
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chaste labradoodle Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:33 AM
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57. Yeah, everything under the sun
except that Gore could have actually done it. Tipper is probably getting paid by Rove, too... :rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:30 AM
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chaste labradoodle Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #54
56. I looked at your profile...
You're a man? :wow:

Someone hand me the smelling salts. I'm a'swoonin'... :eyes:
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nc4bo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:33 AM
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58. ?
She's a beautiful woman.

What's the problem?
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chaste labradoodle Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 11:44 AM
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61. And even if she was supposedly unattractive
it's no right to go behind your spouse's back and cheat. Oh, and last I heard...Al wasn't any Skinny Minnie himself!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:22 PM
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63. and he is hawt? eeew. nt
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 12:15 PM
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62. Can anyone confirm this?
I just read on a board the massage session was schediuled for three hours. As someoen who did massge professionally, there is just no such thing as a three hour lomg massage. Perhaps ou could have a three hour session that included other treatments suh as facials, mudd packs, or the like, but pure massage??? Not a chance in hell.

A "three hour massage" at 10:30 at night at a downtown hotel is a fucking session. If she sgreed to that, she was agreeing to haev sex with him.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:37 PM
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 01:49 PM
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68. What's wrong with * you*?
:eyes:
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:19 PM
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70. Fascinating how many 'crash and burns' we have in this thread.
Apparently, there is something REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY important here that trolls need to sign up and get tomsbtoned for, in the process of informing us about it!

That fact alone makes me think this story is a James O'Keefe style FOX NEWS creation.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-02-10 07:05 AM
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76. Seriously!
Some very ugly folks seem to have signed up exclusively for this freak-show.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:20 PM
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71. A tempest in a t-shirt.
But it sure brings in the trolls, doesn't it?
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-01-10 03:35 PM
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73. Here's his accuser:
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