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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 08:58 PM
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So why didn't Salazar initially prepare his case for moratorium as though
Edited on Tue Jun-22-10 09:01 PM by lonestarnot
he would run into a pug judge with stock in Transocean? And can the judge be disciplined for not having recused himself when he had a glaring red-line conflict as a stockholder in Transocean? Not unless someone files a complaint. So why doesn't somebody?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:41 PM
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1. Well?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 09:47 PM
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2. hmmmmf.
:hi:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:13 PM
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3. I guess that would be up to Holder and Obama
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:55 PM
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4. Why wouldn't citizenry have standing. Who owns the gulf any way?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:00 PM
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6. 'standing?'
NO ONE, or EVERYONE, 'owns' the Gulf, imo.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:24 PM
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10. It is not international water. We own the gulf. Taxpayers. A judge should not legislate. Not his
job!
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:43 PM
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11. How did the judge legislate?
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:53 PM
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12. ruled against the moratorium. How "explicit" does one need to be after the most disastrous
Edited on Tue Jun-22-10 11:55 PM by lonestarnot
environmental catastrophe in history?
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 12:01 AM
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13. More explicit than this:
“The blanket moratorium, with no parameters, seems to assume that because one rig failed and although no one yet fully knows why, all companies and rigs drilling new wells over 500 feet also universally present an imminent danger,”
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 12:10 AM
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14. All rigs drilling new wells over 500 feet do universally present an imment danger by virtue of the
history of the voilcano that continues to blow. No plan for a fucking remedy. What? The judgie is a dumbass? I don't think so. He knows.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 12:26 AM
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16. Many rigs are currently operating, with no problems,
and have been doing so for some time. Standards are necessary, to define/explain reason for moratorium. What judge 'knows,' according to you, should be explicit. No guessing.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 12:31 AM
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17. How do we know they are safe? They've not been regulated!
If he doesn't know about the voilcano, what's he doing making a ruling re the moratorium? WTF :wtf:
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 12:13 AM
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15. In a bar complaint.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 10:59 PM
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5. 'quick and dirty' stab at it, and counsel not quite prepared, imo,
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:01 PM
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7. So what about the judgie and his failure to recuse himself?
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wiggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:08 PM
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8. I don't think it's a bad strategy to first impose the moratorium (urgent IMO) and
then if your hand is forced you can list all the uncertainties, exceptions, problems that the Bush MMS allowed into gulf drilling over the last 10 years. These will sound scary and the information is not made public just to scare everyone and blame Bush again but because it is a necessary response to an activist judge.

I hope that's what happens.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 11:23 PM
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9. I think the judge should be beat down by the bar for not recusing himself due to redline conflict.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 01:15 AM
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18. Some facts of interest, from the Decision:
Although the experts agreed with the safety recommendations contained in the body of the main Report, five of the National Academy experts and three of the other experts have publicly stated that they “do not agree with the six month blanket moratorium” on floating drilling. They envisioned a more limited kind of moratorium, but a blanket moratorium was added after their final review, they complain, and was never agreed to by them. A factor that might cause some apprehension about the probity of the process that led to the Report. . .

The APA cautions that an agency action may only be set aside if it is “arbitrary, capricious, an abuse of discretion, or not otherwise not in accordance with law.” 5 U.S.C. §706(2)(A); see Citizens to Preserve Overton Park v. Volpe, 401 U.S. 402, 416 (1971). The reviewing court must decide whether the agency acted within the scope of its authority, “whether the decision was based on a consideration of the relevant factors and whether there has been a clear error of judgment.” Overton Park, 401 U.S. at 415-16; . . .

The Court recognizes that the compliance of the thirty-three affected rigs with current government regulations may be irrelevant if the regulations are insufficient or if MMS, the government’s own agent, itself is suspected of being corrupt or incompetent.10 Nonetheless, the Secretary’s determination that a six-month moratorium on issuance of new permits and on drilling by the thirty-three rigs is necessary does not seem to be fact-specific and refuses to take into measure the safety records of those others in the Gulf.11 There is no evidence presented indicating that the Secretary balanced the concern for environmental safety with the policy of making leases available for development. There is no suggestion that the Secretary considered any alternatives: for example, an individualized suspension of activities on target rigs until they reached compliance with the new federal regulations said to be recommended for immediate implementation. Indeed, the regulations themselves seem to contemplate an individualized determination by authorizing the suspension of “all or any part of a lease or unit area.”

fn 11: Most of the currently permitted rigs passed MMS inspection after the Deepwater Horizon exploded. According to the Report, since 1969, before Deepwater Horizon, only some three blowouts have occurred . . . all in other parts of the world, not the Gulf.

12 Of interest to the Court is the Report’s conflicting observation that while “the rate of blowouts per well has not increased . . . the experience of the BP Oil Spill illustrates the significant challenges in deepwater drilling.”

The Court cannot substitute its judgment for that of the agency, but the agency must “cogently explain why it has exercised its discretion in a given manner.” State Farm, 463 U.S. at 48. It has not done so.12

The Deepwater Horizon oil spill is an unprecedented, sad, ugly and inhuman disaster. What seems clear is that the federal government has been pressed by what happened on the Deepwater Horizon into an otherwise sweeping confirmation that all Gulf deepwater drilling activities put us all in a universal threat of irreparable harm. While the implementation of regulations and a new culture of safety are supportable by the Report and the documents presented, the blanket moratorium, with no parameters, seems to assume that because one rig failed and although no one yet fully knows why, all companies and rigs drilling new wells over 500 feet also universally present an imminent danger.

On the record now before the Court, the defendants have failed to cogently reflect the decision to issue a blanket, generic, indeed punitive, moratorium with the facts developed during the thirty-day review. . .

While a suspension of activities directed after a rational interpretation of the evidence could outweigh the impact on the plaintiffs and the public, here, the Court has found the plaintiffs would likely succeed in showing that the agency’s decision was arbitrary and capricious. An invalid agency decision to suspend drilling of wells in depths of over 500 feet simply cannot justify the immeasurable effect on the plaintiffs, the local economy, the Gulf region, and the critical present-day aspect of the availability of domestic energy in this country.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/33421810/Text-of-ruling-blocking-Obama-s-6-month-deepwater-drilling-moratorium-in-the-Gulf


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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 06:17 AM
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20. This is pretty normal stuff
The legal reasoning here shows no sign of a stretch to obtain a desired outcome. Agencies, Federal and State are restricted from making "arbitrary and capricious" decisions. To put it simply: just because you bust one guy speeding in a red convertible or even several, it does not mean that you get to write tickets to or suspend the licenses of all guys who drive red convertibles. To do so would be "arbitrary and capricious".

Relevant to this decision is the finding of fact that the other 33 rigs have all apparently passed safety inspections conducted since the deepwater horizon failure. This means that the government has to make an argument as to why its own safety inspection program is insufficient to protect the public welfare.

To do this they would likely need to create new standards in the light of what has been learned from deepwater horizon and then prove up that the other rigs do not or cannot meet them. In the case where some can meet the new standards, but others cannot, the moratorium would change to an order to cease operations at the specific rigs which cannot meet the upgraded safety standards. Based on specific facts and measurements, the decision would then not be arbitrary and capricious.

Of course this could be as simple as requiring that certain disaster response equipment be available at each rig site in case of an emergency. In that most of the equipment that exists is engaged in the deepwater horizon response, this new safety standard likely could not be met, resulting in a shut down of operations similar to a moratorium.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 06:22 AM
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21. Correct.
Glad that someone here noticed.
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quaker bill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 06:53 AM
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22. I do this sort of thing for a living
I manage the litigation of environmental law enforcement cases working with a team of lawyers, engineers, and scientists, and read this sort of stuff all the time.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 11:17 AM
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23. GREAT JOB!
Edited on Wed Jun-23-10 11:17 AM by elleng
I'm a retired attorney; transportation (Interstate Commerce; railroads.)

Need any 'experienced' retirees???
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 02:19 AM
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19. In general, judges can be impeached. I don't know that he would
be impeached for deciding a case while under the influence (so to speak) of a conflict of interest. IMO, he really should have recused himself from the case.
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