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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:40 AM
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Recalling Arne Duncan's Words: New Data On New Orleans Schools
Remember this quote from Secretary of Education Arne Duncan? Though he later apologized for his remark, no apology can hide the true agenda at work in the growing and highly profitable ed deform industry:

Ive spent a lot of time in New Orleans and this is a tough thing to say but Im going to be really honest. The best thing that happened to the education system in New Orleans was Hurricane Katrina. That education system was a disaster. And it took Hurricane Katrina to wake up the community to say that we have to do better. And the progress that it made in four years since the hurricane, is unbelievable


Research Analyst Michael Martin has posted some new findings on that "unbelievable" progress. The following was posted by him on the EDDRA listserv: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EDDRA2/message/755

A May 15, 2010, Report by the Institute on Race and Poverty, at the University
of Minnesota Law School commissioned by the Loyola Institute for Quality and Equity in Education has some interesting findings. The report is titled: "The State of Public Schools in Post Katrina New Orleans: The Challenge of Creating Equal Opportunity."

Some interesting findings:

The reorganization of the city's schools has created a separate but unequal tiered system of schools that steers a minority of students, including virtually all of the city's white students, into a set of selective,
higher performing schools and another group, including most of the city's students of color, into a group of lower performing schools. The extremely rapid growth of charter schools has not improved this pattern.

In the new system, public schools operate under five distinct governance structures that serve different student populations: Orleans Parish School Board (OPSB) traditional public schools(which educate 7 percent of the city's students); OPSB charter schools (20 percent); Recovery School District (RSD) traditional public schools (36 percent); RSD charter schools (34 percent);and Board of Elementary and Secondary Education (BESE) charter schools (2 percent).

In 2009, 87 percent of all white students in the city attended an OPSB or BESE charter school,while only 18 percent of black students did so. In contrast, 75 percent of blackstudents attended an RSD school (charter or traditional public) in 2009, compared to only 11 percent of white students.

Students of color were much more likely to attend a high poverty school than white students in these two sectors. For instance, in 2009, students of color in OPSB charter schools were nearly 12 times more likely to attend a high poverty OPSB school than white students.

The charter school sector in the city of New Orleans has been growing in a haphazard way in response to strong financial incentives and not because of their superior educational performance. The increasingly charterized public school system has seriously undermined equality of opportunity among public school students, sorting white students and a small minority of students ofcolor into better performing OPSB and BESE schools, while confining the majority of low income students of color to the lower performing RSD sector.

OPSB and BESE schools in the city provide some of the most advantageouseducational settings in the region. However, they do so mostly by skimming the easiest to educate students through selective admission requirements that allow them to set explicit academic standards for incomingstudents. They also shape their student enrollments by using their enrollment practices, discipline and expulsion practices, transportation policies, location decisions, and marketing and recruitment efforts. These practices certainly contribute to the selective student bodies and superior performance of these schools.

RSD charter schools still skim the most motivated public students in the RSD sector despite lacking the selective admission requirements OPSB and BESE charters have. They do so by using their enrollment practices, discipline and expulsion practices, transportation policies, location decisions, and marketing
and recruitment efforts. These practices almost certainly work to increase pass rates in RSD charters compared to their traditional counterparts.

As a result of rules that put RSD traditional schools at a competitive disadvantage, schools in this sector are reduced to schools of last resort. This sector continues to educate the hardest to-educate students in racially segregated, high poverty schools.

The new, post Katrina, public school system in New Orleans is becoming more and more reliant on charter schools. The sector grew rapidly as a result of the coordinated efforts of a number of charter school proponents, in response to strong financial incentives (from the federal government and the philanthropic
community), and not necessarily because of superior educational performance by charters.

As charter schools begin replacing traditional public schools at the district level through school conversions, parents, students, and teachers may be forced to choose a charter school because of the lack of high quality traditional public schools. In fact, this is already happening in parts of New
Orleans, where traditional public schools have not been reopened in the aftermath of Katrina. When charter schools become the only option, rather than being one among many, choice options are narrowed for students.



Michael T. Martin
Research Analyst
Arizona School Boards Association
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:10 AM
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1. Tell me if I'm wrong
but I doubt if anyone is much surprised by this.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:24 AM
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14. I'm Not. duncan is a punk (nt)
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:25 AM
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2. Recommend
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:41 AM
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4. Thank you. n/t
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Smarmie Doofus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:30 AM
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3. You're not wrong but nobody cares.
Edited on Mon May-31-10 06:30 AM by Smarmie Doofus
Or should I say, "few people care."

And they won't care 'til school privatization gores their own, specific, personal ox.

Which it will. But by then it'll be too late.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:04 AM
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5. That's a little pessimistic
Some well-informed parent groups are rising up and speaking out. Here's one example: http://www.classsizematters.org/ESEA_letter_to_Congress...
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:28 AM
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6. It seems that Arne Duncan would do to our public school system,exactly what Grover
Edited on Mon May-31-10 07:28 AM by BrklynLiberal
Norquist wanted to do to government..


Wikipedia..
Norquist is famous for his widely quoted comment that he wants to shrink government "down to the size where we can drown it in the bathtub." Norquist largely rejects relativism and is comfortable assigning the labels of "good" and "bad".
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 08:11 AM
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8. I marvel that so many well-intentioned people
fall for the Reagan line that government isn't the solution, it's the problem.

Who in the hell do they think runs our government? We the people? Big corporations and obscenely wealthy interests do. It's like we're not even a real country anymore.


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Jakes Progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 01:38 PM
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29. reagan democrats
The administration's education agenda could have come from a copy machine in bill bennet's office from his tenure as Ed Chief. There is absolutely no possibility of a republican administration being able to do what arne and his buddies, bill bennet and newt gingrich, have managed to pull off under this administration. Democrats from all over the country would have been up in arms at the slimy maneuvers that are taking place in our public schools.

reagan's dreams live.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 01:42 PM
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30. Yep!
You're absolutely right.

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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 07:44 AM
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7. Segregation by any other name, is still segregation.n/t
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 08:44 AM
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9. The Times-Picayune
Has done some great stories illustrating exactly how the de facto segregation works (e.g., requiring parents to fill out paperwork on site, during working hours; telling parents that they can't accommodate special needs children).
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:32 PM
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40. Since they receive public funding, they damn well better accommodate special needs children
Edited on Mon May-31-10 06:32 PM by KamaAina
because they're required to under Federal law (IDEA, the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act), just like traditional public schools are. (By the way, guess who's enrolling all the disabled kids the charters are turning away? That's right, the "Recovery School District".)

Someone really needs to make this stop. I had read in another context that there is no such thing as a public interest law firm in the Gret Stet. Anyone want to help me change that?

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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:05 AM
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10. Is Arne Duncan a racist little twerp? His actions, and words, show him to be one.
Edited on Mon May-31-10 09:06 AM by w4rma
It's crazy that this man with the help of an African-American President is bringing back segregation.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:19 AM
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12. He did the same in Chicago,
Edited on Mon May-31-10 09:27 AM by teacher gal
which is well documented but a complicit mainstream media do not report this. They (both left and right) continue to hype isolated cases of "miracle" stories about charters. I've seen this numerous times recently on CNN, which is supposed to hold some sort of middle ground I suppose.

The ed deformers have an enormous PR machine and the media parrot the grossly misleading information of the wealthy foundations, think tanks and vulture philanthropists bankrolling the decades long "failing public schools" mantra.









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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 10:12 AM
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20. what is really happening in chicago
first of all, the population trends that you see here are also seen in the public schools of chicago, and, i would suspect, any large city. and while you see it as skimming, as the mother of several gifted children, i see it as giving children what is promised in federal law- an appropriate education. i fully realize that this law has only ever applied to children with some sort of deficit. but that is a whole nuther post.

yes, white kids are a large percentage of the population of selective enrollment schools, which, btw, are public here. white kids are a larger percentage of the middle class and upper class in the city as a whole. it is a crime that it is still thus in america, but it is. children in poverty are handicapped from the start in developmental issues from a number of directions. again, it should be a crime. but it is what is.
there are charters here, but most have been set up specifically to tackle the issue of disparate outcomes. some have had remarkable success. some have done no better than the local schools. it is a pernicious problem that has yet to be solved by any school system, using any means, as far as i know.

schools in chicago are very democratic, and the system of magnets, which is more than just the academic acceleration types, are run by a completely blind process. and yet the results are pretty much the same as nola.
so, i think you have to dig a little deeper into the causes and effects of the data you are looking at, because i do not think the conclusions your writer comes to are valid.

i think that before anyone points to "what arne did in chicago" they need to do a lot of research, because school reform here has been a nearly 20 year project. it did not start with arne, it did not end with arne, it is not finished. what it is, tho, is a huge effort to level the playing field for all children that has had some terrific successes. it has also shown just how difficult equality is. what happened in chicago, what happened in nola, are small data points in a vast reality. simple conclusions are, by definition, inadequate.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 10:54 AM
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22. Thanks for some insight into another view of the situation.
My son lives in Chicago..having gone to Northwestern and stayed...and he is currently ready to settle down in a committed relationship...I think....and I assume my grandchildren will be going to Chicago schools.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 01:22 PM
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27. I don't live in Chicago
so you have a perspective that I do not. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Schools in Chicago are very democratic? There was nothing even remotely democratic about NCLB, nor is there anything even remotely democratic about Duncan's Race to the Top (or Chicago's Renaissance 2010 from all that I've read). Just PR and media-hype, manipulation of data, etc.

I've studied ed reform intensely for 10 years (admittedly my obsession) and Arne Duncan represents the neoliberal privatization and militarization agenda for public education (what is left of it) on steroids. He misleads and deceives (affably) just about every time he opens his mouth. His Race to the Top is, like NCLB before it, outright bribery by a federal government married to corporate interests. AND, like NCLB, not only does RTTT have no credible basis or support in research, the research is weighed heavily against these destructive reforms.

At least health care received lots of nationally televised public debate.

Desperately cash-strapped states, in order to compete for and win RTTT funds, must agree to lift caps on charter schools and tie teacher pay to student test scores. And the test and punish regime marches on.

I could provide you with dozens, even hundreds of links but maybe a good place to start would be the Diane Ravitch/Deborah Meier blog: http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/Bridging-Differences/201...

You are probably aware of her about face and mea culpa in her new book, "The Death and Life of the Great American School System".

There is also http://substancenews.net out of Chicago and the PURE (Parents United for Responsible Education) organization in Chicago, which has reported extensively on Duncan's lies and Renaissance 2010 program: http://pureparents.org/
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 01:25 PM
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28. The teachers in Chicago are also speaking out
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:06 PM
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33. And in NYC and Detroit
some things are happening too.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 10:59 PM
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47. yeah, i have been very interested in it also. which is why i know what is
happening.

you are just wrong.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:05 PM
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32. isolated "terrific successes" are meaningless. the result has been: more segregation, aggregate
results no better or worse than what went before.

& 10% fewer black teachers.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 03:11 PM
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35. And with the imposition of market solutions
and their primary weapon, the standardized testing of poor children to "prove" public school failure, we are seeing unprecedented levels of gaming and corruption - and flat out lying. And the wasted funnelling of billions of taxpayer dollars into private hands. More than 30 years of reforms engineered by wealthy people and politicians furthest removed from the realities facing our children and schools.

The hypocrisy is mind blowing.

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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:02 PM
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38. Which is why I can't believe he was brought in to translate his methods to the entire US.
Really, it just makes me want to throw up when I think of it.

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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 08:18 PM
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41. Because despite the brilliant but nauseating
sloganeering (no child left behind, poverty is no excuse, the soft bigotry of low expectations)it isn't about strengthening and improving public schools, it is about undermining them. And it isn't about improving the lives of children. There is nearly a trillion dollar "industry" to be tapped.

Consider the absolutely absurd mandates of NCLB's AYP 100% proficiency mandate by which the manufactured failure of almost every public school in America is virtually guaranteed by 2014. At present I think about 30,000 of our nation's public schools are on the list. About a third of our schools.

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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:12 AM
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11. I meant to post this
in the context of disaster capaitalism, which is what the charterization/privatization in New Orleans really is.

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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:23 AM
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13. One could argue that the Bush admin ALLOWED the destruction of NO by Katrina, specifically with this
Edited on Mon May-31-10 09:25 AM by BrklynLiberal
end in mind.....Couldn't one???????? :mad:

The razinf of some perfectly good low-income housing would testify to that.

The goal is to turn New Orleans into An epcot version of itself..oh..and if all the lower income, Democratic voters are dispersed..and all that is left is the RW voters..so be it...
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:40 AM
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16. Watch as the vulture capitalists
do the same in Haiti. Here's a great clip of Naomi Klein on Democracy Now! addressing these issues:

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/1/14/naomi_klein_issue...
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:46 AM
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17. Right after the earthquake they banned emigration in Haiti
One of those little known facts that was covered up.
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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:50 AM
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19. Didn't know that n/t
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 11:01 AM
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24. check othe show that was on This American Life last weekend.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 11:00 AM
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23. This American Life did a FANTASTIC show about what is happening in Haiti just last Saturday
Defintely worth listening to.

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/...



Act One. 10,000 Brainiacs.

Adam Davidson and Chana Joffe-Walt from Planet Money follow one Haitian farmer, with the modest crop of two mango trees, through a byzantine system of aid agencies, NGOs, and government bureaucracy as the farmer tries the impossible -- to get some plastic milk crates to store and transport her mangoes. Planet Money is a co-production with NPR News. Check out their blog and podcast. (25 minutes)

Song: "Machann Mango", El Manicero

Act Two. Compound Fracture.

Apricot Irving grew up on a missionary compound in Limbe, in the north of Haiti, and visits the missionary hospital there. It's pretty well stocked and staffed but, oddly, kind of a ghost town. Meanwhile, a rural Haitian-run clinic 5 miles away, without anywhere near the resources of the missionary hospital, is packed with people. Apricot spends time with the American doctor who used to head the missionary hospital but left in order to help foster a "new" Haiti at the Haitian-run clinic. Apricot Irving is writing a memoir about her experiences growing up on the missionary compound. She's currently looking for a publisher. (13 minutes)

Act Three. Haiti is Destiny.

Short story writer Ben Fountain tours Port au Prince with his best friend -- one of the few eye doctors in the country -- and glimpses a cautionary future for us all. Ben Fountain is the author of the short story collection Brief Encounters with Che Guevera.

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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 11:40 AM
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26. Thanks for the link! n/t
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 02:07 PM
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34. yes. they heightened the crisis; NO now has 40% less black population than it did.
purposefully.
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:24 AM
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15. K & R
Thanks for the reminder, I think.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:48 AM
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18. k & r
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 10:20 AM
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21. Recommended. Arne's true colors were revealed in that remark.
Thanks for posting.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 11:02 AM
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25. K&R
Segregation Academies
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 01:47 PM
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31. The so-called 'charter school system' in New Orleans has ruined public education
It has been successful, however, in replacing learning with test taking and preparing children to become mindless servants.

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DatManFromNawlins Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:17 PM
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39. That's like eating a piece of charcoal and complaining it tastes burnt
The New Orleans public school system is a festering shithole and always has been.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:51 PM
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43. LOL!
Edited on Mon May-31-10 09:51 PM by Swamp Rat
Tru dat!



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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 02:24 AM
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44. Ooh, "preparing children to become mindless servants", and segregation too?
Uh oh, I don't want to think that Arne Duncan wants to repeal the 13th Amendment, doesn't he? :tinfoilhat: Really, I started having some filthy thoughts at the combination of the systematically segregated school system and your notion about "mindless servants."
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 04:41 AM
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45. Take off your tinfoil hat because it's not necessary.
Some folks are open about wanting to return to segregation, in David Vitter's hometown of Metairie (also where David Duke lived and was elected in 1989), where the first wave of white flight went in the 1960s. I saw angry parents at a (post-Katrina) Jeff. School Board meeting complaining about 'bussing', etc.

"Judges rejects Jefferson desegregation plan
By Jenny Hurwitz, The Times-Picayune
March 14, 2008, 8:10PM

In an unexpected twist, a federal judge refused to sign a controversial proposed consent decree Friday that would have helped resolve a decades-old desegregation suit in the Jefferson Parish public school system, saying that the document failed to provide a "narrowly tailored solution" to fully desegregate the district and root out pockets of racial inequality. "

(snip)

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2008/03/judges_rejec...

http://www.nola.com/education/index.ssf/2009/08/jeffers...

http://blackparentsofjpps.blogspot.com/2009/07/chris-ki...


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teacher gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 03:54 PM
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36. Kick n/t
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:50 PM
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37. Can You Hear Me Now, President Obama?
No.
Guess not.
Too much Corporate Cash clogging up the system.


Arne Duncan needs to GO,
along with all the other Republican Lites running around the White House.

The DLC New Team
Republican Lite Only

(Screen Capped from the DLC Website)
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 09:48 PM
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42. I think this needs another kick.
:D
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 05:59 AM
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46. How about one more kick this AM
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