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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:30 PM
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COVER-UP: After Oil Rig Blast, BP Refuses To Share Underwater Spill Footage
Edited on Wed May-12-10 12:49 PM by kpete
After Oil Rig Blast, BP Refused to Share Underwater Spill Footage

During a series of dry-run exercises, where the U.S. Coast Guard, other agencies and oil companies practiced their response to major oil spill disasters, industry executives repeatedly pressed federal regulators to give them more say on what information would be released to the public if disaster struck.


Under pressure, BP released this still image of the leak on Tuesday
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/bp-oil-spill-oil-rig-blast-bp-refused/story?id=10624972

ABC News:

Throughout the clean-up effort, BP has monitored the spill site around the clock using submarine-mounted cameras at the mouth of the spill. An official at Oceaneering International, the company that operates the submarines under a contract with BP, told ABC News he "could walk right down the hall and watch it, but I can't share it without BP's express permission."

Eric Smith, a professor at Tulane University's Energy Institute said that footage could help in making independent assessments of the scope of the spill. But it also could do public relations damage to BP. It has remained closely guarded and cannot be made public under the argument that it is "proprietary," according to Coast Guard officials who have received repeated requests to release the images.



BP is trying to position itself as a responsible corporate citizen, but


its decision to keep this video secret from public
scrutiny in the midst of what is likely to become
the single largest oil spill in American history
underscores the fact that first and foremost,
BP wants to protect its own interest,

...........

everyone else be damned.



more:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/12/865783/-BP-releases-still-image,-but-maintains-tight-control-over-video-of-oil-gushing-from-leak

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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:33 PM
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1. Wouldn't the "eminent domain" apply in this circumstance? nt
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:38 PM
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4. They'll certainly be subpoena'ed
It's inevitable.
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:21 PM
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17. They should have been subpoenaed last week.
Time is of the essence, and all that.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:47 PM
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10. Nah, it's BIG OIL; rules and laws do not apply
Just ask cheney.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:37 PM
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2. The hearings are going on now
Congress should tell them to release them and if they refuse they can state why they are hiding things.
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:38 PM
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3. I heard on DemocracyNow this morning that the overwhelming bulk of the oil is beneath the surface...
....

RICK STEINER: Well, it’s very—it’s tragic, actually. I mean, all these spills that we’ve worked on around the world, they have their own similarities and differences, but this one’s really historic in a number of ways. It’s the largest, deepest blowout in history. It’s coming out at 5,000 feet deep, as people know, and about fifty miles offshore. And it’s a light Gulf of Mexico crude, so it’s got some things different than the Exxon Valdez, for instance. By the—when the oil comes out of the wellhead, the blowout, it’s emulsifying very quickly with this very dense, high-pressure seawater. And then these things act in complicated ways, where then the plume will rise a few hundred meters, and some research has shown that in smaller blowouts in a little bit shallower water that then the plume will stabilize at a particular depth, that it will reach a terminal depth, and then just start flowing subsurface. So I think the easy way to look at this is that a lot of the oil that’s come out still probably hasn’t surfaced yet. But even the stuff that has surfaced, it’s covering two to three thousand square miles in broken patches. I mean, it’s not solid, but broken patches. If you use the conservative estimate that BP is putting out and the government apparently is concurring with, then there’s four to five million gallons that have come out so far over the last three weeks. And it’s a very complicated event.


The cause seems like a combination of human error, when they withdrew the muds from the well stem and replaced it with seawater before the concrete plugs were in, and then mechanical failure, when the blowout preventer failed, as well.


So the response—you know, the other thing we’ve learned from spills all over the world is that response just simply never works. And it never has and likely never will. Seldom is more than ten percent that is spilled actually recovered from the sea surface. So, you know, they’re very proud to say they’ve got 13,000 workers on this and 400-some boats and, you know, a million feet of boom and things like that, but the sad bottom line is they’re not going to be able to contain and recover much of the oil from the environment. It just simply hasn’t happened. I was watching a lot of shrimp boats pull containment booms through the oil, and the oil was unfortunately so saturated with water that when the booms contacted the oil, it just went beneath the booms, and there was as much oil behind the booms as inside of it. So they’re recovering, you know, three million gallons or so of oil-water mixture, but about 90 percent of that is likely water. So, at any rate, yeah, it’s a lot of oil in the water. It’s still coming.


The cause is obviously negligence and mechanical failure. And the impact of this thing has been quite serious. But it’s so different from a normal tanker spill, for instance, where all the oil is on the surface, at least to start with, and you can follow it. This oil is coming out at 5,000 feet deep, so a lot of the impact—and plus when it emulsifies with water and the methane dissolves off—a lot of the impact of this oil, this subsurface toxic plume, will be in the deep ocean and what we call the pelagic ecosystem. And that—that is a serious ecosystem. And that’s—you know, that’s a very rich ecosystem offshore there, several kinds of whales, dolphins. We spent an afternoon with a pod of fifty bottlenose dolphins out in and around the oil, thousands of seabirds. So, you know, there’s this traditional bias or chauvinism that—in oil spills, that we’re only concerned if the oil comes onshore and with the oil on the surface. Well, in this, we are concerned about that—the oil has started coming onshore, and there’s a lot on the surface—but because of the turbulent mixing energy of the wind and waves and also the chemical dispersant that they’ve applied, some 300,000 gallons of this stuff to the surface slicks, there’s a lot of this oil that’s down in the water column. And so, while that might be good if you’re a seabird, it’s not if you’re a bluefin tuna that’s getting ready to spawn.


And one other last thing about impact. There’s a lot of very precious, very unusual marine habitats in the Gulf of Mexico. There’s some deepwater coral reefs up on the—as you start going up the continental shelf. And then there’s these cold seeps where methane, this natural gas, just percolates out of the seabed and forms these really rich, unusual biological communities, extremely productive, that live just simply off the methane coming out of the seabed, and a number of endemic species that are found nowhere else. And I think, because a lot of this oil is entrained in the deepwater masses, likely, that some of these very productive special habitats will be hit. And we need to take a good look at that, so…


....

http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/12/as_gulf_of_mexico_oil_spill
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:53 PM
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12. The "dispersant" stuff they've been spraying on it is intended to keep the oil off the surface
it doesn't make the oil go away of course, or make it less toxic to the ecosystem. It just causes it to sink in the water column, and thus makes it less visible to the public. Both BP and the Coast Guard have been spraying the oil slick with dispersant chemicals that are presumed to be, and in some cases known to be, ecologically damaging in themselves.

Ironically, oil is easier to clean up if it floats and is not treated with dispersants. Spills can be physically contained with floating booms and skimmed off the water surface. This one probably was always too large for that, but it turns out that BP wasn't maintaining the necessary equipment for containment anyway. I guess they were planning to contract that out too, if the need should ever arise.

Still, no public regrets for thirty years of deregulation from the DLC.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:39 PM
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5. Well of course -- after all, it's BP's world that they are polluting.
Why should they share "proprietary" information about how they are destroying their world. Isn't it enough that we are, so far, also allowed to live on their world.

;-)
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:42 PM
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6. Seize it and compensate them for the fair market value of the Ampex cartridges or digital media
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:43 PM
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7. How long before the operation is taken out of BP's hands? nt
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:45 PM
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9. BP controls the government. So I guess if you want BP to have indirect control....n/t
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:03 PM
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21. Goldman Sachs will have to step in and take over. nt
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:44 PM
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8. They should make a porn tape out of it for Republican free-marketers
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:48 PM
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11. repubs fucking the earth
to complete devastation...
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greencharlie Donating Member (827 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 03:53 PM
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19. Repugs? How about "humans"? There's no "R" or "D" next to the responsibility. nt
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:53 PM
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13. They need to paint the pipes bright green and put a nice logo on them /nt
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blindpig Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:53 PM
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14. Expropriate.

Expropriate. Expropriate. Expropriate. Expropriate. Expropriate.

without compensation.

k&r
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ladjf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 03:50 PM
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18. Excellent. nt
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:54 PM
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15. K/R
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:55 PM
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16. kik
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 03:54 PM
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20. knr
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 06:52 PM
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22. Big K & R !!!
:kick:
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SlipperySlope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-13-10 12:49 AM
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23. Here is a link to a video of the leak
Edited on Thu May-13-10 12:52 AM by SlipperySlope
It is a week old, but worth watching:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYFYVNvgg-A
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