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Muddy Waters Guitars Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:51 PM
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Arizona's bigoted law BACKFIRING UPDATE: Massive Latino movement into Arizona!
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 07:13 PM by Muddy Waters Guitars
Wow, the GOP really has shot themselves in the foot, and knee, and shoulder and everywhere else with their overreach in Arizona. Not only is Latino and other minority registration massively up throughout the state (Scottsdale and now Nogales up close to 300% as of last update). The latest memo is that the law is having the opposite effect from what the Teabagger bigots in Arizona wanted-- it's drawing Latinos TO the state (from across the country-- from Wisconsin, Alabama, Arkansas, Virginia, Maryland, Illinois, Idaho, South Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma and Tennessee among other places) to resist it and stand up for their fellow indigenos, rather than driving Arizona Latinos out, with all of these new arrivals immediately REGISTERING TO VOTE.

This after all, was the true underlying intent of the Arizona law. A large contingent of the Arizona Republican Party descends from the pro-slavery forces who waged the Mexican-American War in 1846 to turn the Arizona Territory into a slaveholding region-- seizing it from Mexico, which had outlawed slavery throughout the country (of which Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico were a part). The GOP descendants of those slaveholders in 2010 are desperately afraid of a Latino/Native American majority in Arizona, since they would revert Arizona's political map back to the days before the slaveholder takeover, and restore power to the disenfranchised indigenous peoples. Today's Arizona Teabaggers are also economically descended from the slaveholders of 1848-- they rely on dirt-cheap, brutally exploited Latino labor to enrich themselves at the expense of the indigenos, and more power for the Latinos and Navajos translates into (they presume) a direct economic loss for them in their quasi-feudal aristocratic power bases. That's the real basis for this outrageous law-- the Teabaggers actually want Latinos to be excessively harassed, to anger them and drive them out of the state.

Fortunately, Latino groups throughout the country have seen through this transparent attempt, and they're making sure that we cruelly disappoint the bigoted Arizona GOP where it hurts most-- in the ballot boxes and on the Census. There's about to be a massive Latino influx into Arizona from other states (generally from outside the Southwest), to deliver the harsh message to the Teabaggers that their pathetic little attempt at ethnic cleansing will be backfiring on them dramatically. No newslinks at this point-- this seems to have just gotten underway and it's mostly grass-roots memos and on-the-ground organizing this early, though certainly something I'm happy to pass on. (And if it tips Arizona elections in the next couple years, it obviously will become a news item!) Here's the summary from my contact in Milwaukee:

"Hey Jim, here's where things stand with the latest salvoes to defeat the sorry KKK wannabes in Arizona. I'm not sure about the general policies of MALDEF and the umbrella organizations, but among the small grass-roots organization, there are now organizing drives to encourage Latinos, if they're so inclined, to move into Arizona rather than out of it, which would be doing exactly what the little Bull Connors there want us to do. Joe Arpaio, Russell Pearce, Jan Brewer and this bill's various sponsor are white supremacists to the core, they want to drive the Chicano and other Latino population out of Arizona since they believe that their white-power structure gives them the "right" to Arizona over the indigenous Chicano, Pueblo, Zuni, Navajo and other populations, with Latinos being their main target by dint of sheer demographics and fear of Latino voter backlash. We're gonna make their lives miserable by doing the opposite-- WE are the indigenous people of Arizona, and we will not be driven out no matter what their attempts. Everything they do will just bring us swarming in like hornets to crush their racist hatred and stand by those so hard-pressed by this.

Our Milwaukee branch saw the writing on the wall weeks ago and started encouraging legal, often US-born Latinos here and elsewhere in Wisconsin to take up residence, LEGALLY, in Arizona, to work there and register to vote, especially if they have any sort of family connection to the state-- which of course many do, stretching back to the 1700's and before. For all its flaws, Arizona is a physically-beautiful state with a low cost of living, so it's not much of a personal sacrifice to move there-- it's even an opportunity for many of us. Our call was replicated in a number of other states outside the traditional Latino political centers in the Southwest, and the latest news is that thousands of Latinos across ages and social classes are now heading to Arizona-- to stand up against the racists while gaining economic power in the process, and registering to vote. The branches in these states are particularly active, with heavy Latino relocation from there to Arizona: Alabama, Arkansas, Virginia, Maryland, Illinois, Idaho, South Carolina, Kansas, Kentucky, Oklahoma, Tennessee, New York, Wyoming, Washington state, Oklahoma and Iowa. And everyone is registering to vote as soon as they get themselves up and running in Arizona. The irony is that Arpaio, Pearce and Brewer wanted to drive us out of Arizona, but with their foolishness, their only drawing us in to displace them from their fiefs.

One more point: THE ARIZONA POLICE ARE OUR ALLIES IN THIS FIGHT. I want to make this clear-- it's the Republican politicians and Tea Partiers in Arizona, the Minutemen, who are the enemy, NOT THE POLICE. The police in fact are bitterly opposed to this anti-Latino measure, and standing up against their own sheriff in Maricopa County. They realize it's unconstitutional, expensive and unworkable in practice, as there's no way to "suspect" an illegal immigrant other than skin color, itself fraught with error since many illegal immigrants from the USA today are from places like Ireland, Russia, the UK, Belarus and the Ukraine. That's why this law will eventually be thrown out in court if not rescinded legislatively before that, but we need to make the Arpaios and the Pearces pay for this regardless, by flooding the ballot boxes with Latino voters that they thought they could drive out. The police want to help us. Yes, there will certainly be occasions when the police-- compelled by this foolish law-- are compelled to arrest Latinos who are legally here, but I promise you that with few exceptions, they don't like this at all. If you are legally in Arizona, Latino or otherwise, and arrested under this foolish statute, be polite and cooperative especially if the police communicate their own frustration with the idiotic dictates that forced them to bring you in. And then, you'll be able to launch one of the thousands of lawsuits that will be the de facto demise of this law, for infringing upon your natural rights as a US citizen. Don't be afraid to be proud of your Latino identity-- celebrate your holidays, speak Spanish, and redouble your connection to your ancestry more than ever before. If for whatever reason this leads to an arrest, again remember that most of the police are not happy about having to arrest you. Document everything that happens with the arrest, post Youtube videos to humiliate the state, document the anger of police officers forced into this (with due protection of their identities for their jobs), and take legal action. And above all, register to vote, because it's in the ballot box that we'll ultimately shame, disgrace and defeat the likes of Arpaio, Pearce and Brewer for good in this great state.
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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 06:54 PM
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1. Are there any articles reporting on this influx? I haven't been able to find much in the media
Edited on Sat Apr-24-10 06:54 PM by The Northerner
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Muddy Waters Guitars Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:09 PM
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5. I think it's still in the fledgling stages, so probably not much in the big media yet
Even in Milwaukee (where this started AFAIK) the call seems to have gone out only a couple weeks ago or so. My guess is that this'll stay under the radar screen, maybe float around portions of the Blogosphere for a while-- then suddenly when the GOP is battered and bloodied in a series of elections in Arizona and desperately wondering what happened, they'll see that minority, college-student and other Dem-trending voting in Arizona is massively up, both from native Arizonans and the influx from other states, courageous people moving in to fight this bill. Only then will the GOP finally realize what sort of a massive blunder they've committed. Or maybe not-- given that they've been taken over by their wingnuts, they'll probably scream and holler about how they weren't conservative enough, even as they alienate themselves further from the general population in Arizona and elsewhere.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:01 AM
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13. MWG-I hope they NEVER realize it - I want to see the GOP crushed
over the course of the next several elections, starting in November.

I am hoping that ALL DEMOCRATS take counsel from this and get together and vote for Democrats in November, in every office, local to federal...We don't need any more republicans, thank you.

m
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:20 PM
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37. Amen.
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:29 PM
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27. Let's hope they don't see it coming until it's too late!
They might start rewriting voting laws next.
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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:17 PM
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35. Federal voting laws trumps state laws
Remember that.
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irishlover Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:55 PM
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44. I like it but how's it going to affect the call for a boycott? n/t
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601Liberal Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:37 PM
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42. Nah, they'll just claim voter fraud
Like Bob Dornan did after losing twice to Loretta Sanchez.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:04 PM
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2. Cool...
We can only hope...
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:05 PM
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3. Link please?
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Muddy Waters Guitars Donating Member (56 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:11 PM
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6. Just memos and correspondence at this point
Not a news story yet-- just hoping it will be by November, when it's too late for the Republicans to realize how badly they've shot themselves in the foot.
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WheelWalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 08:28 PM
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7. +1
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 07:07 PM
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4. That would be sweeeeeeeet.
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-24-10 11:26 PM
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8. That's what's needed
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:15 AM
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9. Oh I hope you are right. It's just the result we need to see.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:28 AM
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10. That's a very good idea. Even if it was only temporary.
If enough people moved into Joe Arpaio's dist., eg, to throw him our of office, it would be worth doing it even if only for a year or so.

Then, with some real justice in the state, he might finally be indicted for the crimes he has committed against humanity.

This would have to be a very large movement to have any effect though.
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lamp_shade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:50 AM
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11. GREAT post. Thanks.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:05 AM
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12. Bravo! nt
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B Calm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:10 AM
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14. This will work!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:19 AM
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15. Woohoo. Now I think we should have mariachis on every corner.
Yes there is a God! Mi' casa es tu' casa! Blue blue blue! :bounce: Mas Mexicanas! Mas y mas y mas! :bounce:
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 06:00 AM
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16. We may not know each other but I love you
When I first came here I seen the Latinos as a big problem but as I've become educated about the people of Mexico/South America, from good people here, I've come whole circle. I'm white and used to be, before DU, pretty much one bigoted bastard who didn't realize it, but no more. The problem is the big moneyed interest here in the USA has destroyed the lives of all of our South American brothers and sisters by their money grubbing, cheap labor, lying ass policies in the whole region. My favorite people are our present President Obama, President of Venezuela, Hugo Chavez, President of Bolivia, Evo Morales and LULA da Silva of Brazil and the reason is I see them as trying to make life better for all people no matter the color of their skin. Life doesn't have to be this way for so many of us, I include me because I've been taken advantage of my whole life because of who I am, poor white trash they call us.

I'm a home body and hardly ever go anywhere but I would love to spend some time traveling the area starting at our southern border, down the east side all the way to the tip of South America and back up the west side.

I wish I could rec this a hundred time

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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 12:26 PM
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83. ...
:hug:
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 06:07 AM
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17. Thank you for your report. It appears a push back is on the way.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:14 AM
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18. great news, fantastic strategy/development--k&r (nt)
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:29 AM
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19. I'd like to hear someone explain the Arizona government's excuse.
They claim that they "had to do something because the federal government wasn't enforcing illegal immigration."

Which is no license to violate the fourth amendment, so as a reason it fails utterly. A need to act is not license to act inappropriately; it cannot be.

And since these are almost all hard-working and productive people, Arizona is making money off them. That's an often forgotten truth: wealth comes from productivity, from labor. Illegal immigrants and legal immigrants alike to America tend as a rule to work their sorry butts off, which means this much-demeaned class of people are generating wealth for America. Lots of it, actually, because they work cheap. Myself, I wouldn't mind if all Latinos left the state for exactly a year, and watch Arizona's economy tank. That would be funny.

But you and these thousands of American Latinos who are going to Arizona to fight, directly, against this folly are absolutely in the right and I support you. Try, when there, to spend your money among the community as much as possible; don't let the richest Arizonans make more profit out of this.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:14 PM
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45. I wish I could believe this! But so far, I can't. :-(
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 09:57 AM
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20. I would really hate to be an AZ cop right now.
It's going to get really, really nasty for them. The Sureños and MS-13 might just decide to make their opinions about this new law known. If and when they do, it's going to be a bloodbath.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:12 AM
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65. That's not the worst of it.
The worst of it is having to check out people who are wholly innocuous because if you don't, you might be sued.
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 10:05 AM
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21. Interesting about the Arizona police. I would imagine the new law would be burdensome on them.
It is a crappy law to try and enforce. And just who do you decide to pull over and question?
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 10:06 AM
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22. I find this odd no news outlets are mentioning this...
an unprecedented influx of hispanics into Arizona registering to vote...don't they have to prove rsidency of 30 days?
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BobbyBoring Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:02 PM
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25. Why
Do you find it odd? The media is owned lock, stock, and barrel by those who would love to see AZ (and the other 49 states) all white states. If you read, view, or hear anything, it will come from NPR or MSMBC, not Faux, CNN, CBS, or ABC.
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rustydog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:59 PM
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33. You answered your own question. Nothing on MSNBC
NPR, FAUX would be mentioning it to rile up the locals.
The only informatipn is this persons Precinct Captain...
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IsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:17 PM
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57. Did you find it odd when there were no WMD found in Iraq? If you don't know by now that 95% of
what is being reported to us by our glorious msm is propaganda, misdirection, obfuscation and utter bull shit, then I can't help you.
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 10:10 AM
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23. That's a nonsense claim.
Nobody is migrating in vast numbers in response to this idiotic law; that's just absurd. Increased voter registration is almost certain, but don't be silly -- there's no Laino invasion underway right now.
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jimshoes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:20 PM
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36. Shhh, Let the pukes worry that it is happening
I hope they lose all kinds of sleep over it.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 11:27 AM
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24. I sure hope so! nt
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caseymoz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:20 PM
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26. How can you tell there's a "massive influx" in less than a week.

Don't get me wrong, I hope there is. But how premature is this? Millions of people can't drop what their doing and move to AZ within a week as you're suggesting... Where will they work? How will they prevent . . . starvation?

I hope it comes true, but nothing in this is even plausible.

I dont' think AZ is going to fare well without Latino immigrants. What happens from that alone, I think, might be cautionary tale to the other states and to the nation as a whole.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:30 PM
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47. I agree, how on earth would anyone be able to track new people moving to AZ
for this. Sure maybe a few thousand but not enough to make an impact.
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skepticscott Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:38 PM
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28. Explain something to me
First you say this:

"Today's Arizona Teabaggers are also economically descended from the slaveholders of 1848-- they rely on dirt-cheap, brutally exploited Latino labor to enrich themselves at the expense of the indigenos, and more power for the Latinos and Navajos translates into (they presume) a direct economic loss for them in their quasi-feudal aristocratic power bases. "

Then this:

"That's the real basis for this outrageous law-- the Teabaggers actually want Latinos to be excessively harassed, to anger them and drive them out of the state."

You're saying that the Teabaggers depend on cheap Latino labor to enrich themselves, and at the same time that they are trying to drive Latinos out of the state. Which is it?
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:59 PM
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30. Ever hear of "keep your socialist obamacare off my Medicare/Social Security" crap?
Same thing.

Logical thought processes are conveniently ignored by these brownshirt wannabes...

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Desertrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:00 PM
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31. Since when are people logical? ...especially Teabaggers?
Hate is not logical. I'm sure they aren't thinking too clearly about who is gonna do the yard work, scrub toilets when they are going on & on about how this is Amerikkka (land of the white faces) and we need to get the brown people out.

This country had voted against its own best interst for YEARS now. Why is this hard to figure out??
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 01:54 PM
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29. Fantastic! GREAT news!!!
God speed and good luck!
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 02:55 PM
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32. Link?
Because without it I'll simply call Bullshit.
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idahoblue Donating Member (85 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:15 PM
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34. If I were Latino
I told my husband the day they passed this bill, that if I was Latino or even looked latino, I would be on my way to Arizona. I would like to make myself visible to any and all law enforcement to try to promote an encounter. Of course, I would have broken no law, and there would be no identification on me. Heck, I hardly ever have ID on me as it is.

Take back Arizona!
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Bette Noir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:23 PM
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38. One nit to pick-- Latinos are not indigenous to Arizona.
We were there before Anglos, but we weren't there first. Only Native Americans can rightly call themselves "indigenes," in relation to Arizona.

For those who want to move to AZ and vote there, more power to you. I've spent a few summer weekends in AZ, which only strengthened my resolve to finally more to Oregon.
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billh58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:45 PM
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43. Depends on how you
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 04:14 PM by billh58
define "Latino." Mexicans of Spanish and Native American ancestry lived in the Arizona area long before the English (or Anglos) arrived. The same goes for other states such as New Mexico, Texas, California, etc. Many (most?) Mexicans can trace their ancestry back to their Native American (both North and South) roots.

These regions are the ancestral homes of Native Americans, but later controlled by the Spanish, and then by Mexico after their independence from Spain. And, we know the rest of the story...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Arizona
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:43 PM
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48. Very true, great post! nt
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 05:52 PM
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49. Not to mention, Polk instigated the Mexican / American War by annexation of Texas
to provoke Mexico into attacking so the US could get hold of California. So we took the SW by provoking war. Not the type of thing to be proud of.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:48 PM
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54.  . . . and Mexico had outlawed slavery . . . . in Arizona/California/Texas + New Mexico --
This after all, was the true underlying intent of the Arizona law. A large contingent of the Arizona Republican Party descends from the pro-slavery forces who waged the Mexican-American War in 1846 to turn the Arizona Territory into a slaveholding region-- seizing it from Mexico, which had outlawed slavery throughout the country (of which Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico were a part).

The above is part of a post by the poster you responded to --
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:10 AM
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64. La Raza Cosmica, the cosmic race
so named because we encompass all of them. lol :party:
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:38 PM
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53. Arizona was part of Mexico, therefore, Mexicans were there before us . . .!!
This after all, was the true underlying intent of the Arizona law. A large contingent of the Arizona Republican Party descends from the pro-slavery forces who waged the Mexican-American War in 1846 to turn the Arizona Territory into a slaveholding region-- seizing it from Mexico, which had outlawed slavery throughout the country (of which Arizona, California, Texas and New Mexico were a part).



What present USA States were part of Mexico in the past?
In: United States History, Mexico

The whole states of California, Nevada, Utah, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, as well as parts of Wyoming, Colorado, Oklahoma and Kansas. The original US-Mexico border was defined by the Sabine River north from the Gulf of Mexico to the 32nd parallel north (32°N), then due north to the Red River, west along the Red River to the 100th meridian west (100°W), due north to the Arkansas River, west to its headwaters, north to the 42nd parallel north (42°N), and finally west along that parallel to the Pacific Ocean.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_present_USA_States_were_part_of_Mexico_in_the_past




Defining "Mexican-Americans"

Mexican-Americans are a subset of the Hispanic ethnic group. Mexican-Americans may be recent immigrants or the sons and daughters of immigrants, descendants of those who came to the United States decades ago or who settled there when the land was either an independent republic or under Spanish or Mexican rule. Mexican-Americans can either be bilingual or monolingual (or, indeed, multilingual), their primary languages being English and Spanish, harking back to the Spanish colonizing efforts starting in the 1570s.

Mexican-Americans have been called the first "hyphenated Americans" but their designation comes from real political events. After the signing of the Treaty of Guadalupe-Hidalgo ending the U.S. - Mexico war, more than half of Mexico's territory was ceded to the U.S. Estimates range from 70,000 to 200,000 Mexican citizens living in these territories who became Americans "overnight." The terms of the treaty gave these Mexicans one year to accept their American political status. The treaty granted them full rights of citizenship as well as protection of Mexican-Americans along with the Spanish language, Catholic religion, culture and land, although the articles dealing with land protections were later removed prior to ratification by nowllws.

Before the founding of the United States
Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, Utah, California, Colorado, and Wyoming were part of the Viceroyalty of New Spain and later formed part of the newly independent Mexican Republic. The Spaniards first entered the region in the late 16th century, starting small settlements in what is now New Mexico.

In California, Spanish ; Franciscan friars formed a string of missions designed to convert the Indians to Christianity. Along with the system of forts and land grants to favored associates of the king, the missions enabled small-scale Spanish settlement of the coastal California by a few hundred Spanish immigrants. Very small Spanish-speaking settlements were established near missions and forts in Arizona, New Mexico, Colorado and Texas by the mid 18th century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Mexican_Americans#Defining_.22Mexican-Americans.22

New Mexico
A state of the southwest United States on the Mexican border. It was admitted as the 47th state in 1912. Site of prehistoric cultures that long preceded the Pueblo civilization encountered by the Spanish in the 16th century, the region was governed as a province of Mexico after 1821 and ceded to the United States by the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo in 1848. The original territory (established 1850) included Arizona and part of Colorado and was enlarged by the Gadsden Purchase of 1853. Sante Fe is the capital and Albuquerque the largest city. Population: 1,970,000.

http://www.answers.com/topic/new-mexico
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Flying Dream Blues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:23 PM
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39. Wow, I'm impressed; picking up and moving is a great example
to the rest of us. I wish them well in fighting this hateful, unconstitutional "law."
:patriot:
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:27 PM
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40. k&r! nt
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billh58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 03:35 PM
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41. Actually, there isn't much
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 03:38 PM by billh58
need for a renewed effort to populate Arizona with Hispanics from outside the state, because it's happening from within:

"According to the 2005-2007 American Community Survey conducted by the U.S. Census Bureau, White Americans made up 76.4% of Arizona's population; of which 59.6% were non-Hispanic whites."

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"The largest ancestry groups in Arizona are Mexican (25.8%), German (16.5%), English (10.3%), Irish (10.9%), and Native American (4.5%). The southern and central parts of the state are predominantly Mexican American, especially in Santa Cruz County and Yuma County near the Mexican border."

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"Arizona is projected to become a minority-majority state by the year 2015 if current population growth trends continue. In 2003, for the first time, there were slightly more births to Hispanics in the state than births to non-Hispanic whites. Since then, the gap has widened. In 2007, Hispanics accounted for 45% of all newborns whereas non- Hispanic whites accounted for 41% of all births."


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Arizona

Arizona is being re-populated by its indigenous people at an ever-growing rate, and the KKK wannabes are starting to panic. The recent "Birther Bill," and this piece-of-crap racial-profiling legislation are the desperate acts of a dwindling redneck population, and they are in panic mode.

I would not be surprised if American Hispanics from other parts of the country begin to move into Arizona, because after all -- many of their ancestors come from the area, and predate the Johnny-come-lately white assholes who are currently running things.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 04:20 PM
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46. Whites are becoming the minority and now they are starting
to realize they should have treated the dark skinned people better. Others, like we see in Arizona, want to hold onto power as long as possible through any means available.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:50 PM
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55. "White" is a figment of the imagination of "whites" -- they are simply lighter ...
but nonetheless, people of color --
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:21 PM
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58. Pale Pink? It would have been nicer to be a nice seafoam or
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 08:21 PM by alfredo
a darker shade of Chartreuse.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:22 PM
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59. Native Americans used to call us "the pig people" . . .
did they know something we don't know?

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 08:34 PM
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60. And the honeybee was the "White Man's Fly."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 12:21 PM
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 06:06 PM
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50. It's a disgusting law and, of course, we all need to fight back against it - and help Latinos...
Best wishes to those who will try to fight against this fascism --

as we all should be doing!

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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 06:19 PM
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51. Two things to say
First of all, let's hope that you are 100 pct. correct and the gop is crushed in Arizona and elsewhere. Second, I love your username. Anyone who loves Muddy Waters is ok.
Peace to you and yours. Welcome to DU.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 06:20 PM
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52. Good. I hope they take back what is theirs.
Edited on Sun Apr-25-10 06:20 PM by Xenotime
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-25-10 07:51 PM
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56. Like the way you put that . . . !!
:)
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ericinne Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 01:53 AM
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61. Now REALLY REALLY piss of AZ
Now really piss off the state and start promoting Arizona tourism on Telemundo. :rofl:
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:14 AM
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66. LOL. I don't think anyone will need to run ads.
Al Sharpton is already organizing people to walk in Arizona!

lol
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:01 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:06 AM
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63. How do you identify an illegal immigant, bob?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:23 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:30 AM
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68. I haven't had to show my ID to anyone for years.
And, you're not comparing Latino Americans to drunks, are you?

Btw, "twern't" isn't an English word and if it twer, it would be the wrong tense.

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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:47 AM
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 02:50 AM
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70. So, how do you identify an illegal immigrant?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 03:13 AM
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72. So, you have no answer? Okay.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 04:11 AM
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74. Weaving down the road is probable cause for the police to do
check on a driver...wearing certain clothes or being of a certain ethnicity are not.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 03:21 AM
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73. ¡¡¡VAMOS AÍ!!!
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 04:38 AM
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75. If the police weren't the enemy in this fight, there'd be no need to oppose the law.
Because it would never have any effect.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 10:48 AM
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78. A lot of LEOs are against this stupidity. Our chief
came out against it big time. He said it undermines trust in the community and of course, he's right.
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:36 AM
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76. The nation should be furious with Arizona. It's crazy. n/t
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MkapX Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 07:49 AM
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77. You know...
I think the Arizonia Republican party is going for the KKK vote this November.

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southernyankeebelle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-26-10 11:06 AM
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79. My husband was adopted at 4 yrs old from Germany and bought to the U.S....
My husband was made a U.S. citizen and has no accent. He served 21 yrs in the Army because he felt he wanted to give back to this country. Now am worried because I don't think his drivers license and his military identification card will be enough. His original birth certificate is in German. I told him that maybe we need to renew his american passport. I think this law will get out of hand.
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