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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:43 PM
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Our Universe at Home Within a Larger Universe? So Suggests Physicist's Wormhole Research
ScienceDaily (Apr. 7, 2010) — Could our universe be located within the interior of a wormhole which itself is part of a black hole that lies within a much larger universe?

Such a scenario in which the universe is born from inside a wormhole (also called an Einstein-Rosen Bridge) is suggested in a paper from Indiana University theoretical physicist Nikodem Poplawski in Physics Letters B. The final version of the paper was available online March 29 and will be published in the journal edition April 12.

Poplawski takes advantage of the Euclidean-based coordinate system called isotropic coordinates to describe the gravitational field of a black hole and to model the radial geodesic motion of a massive particle into a black hole.

In studying the radial motion through the event horizon (a black hole's boundary) of two different types of black holes -- Schwarzschild and Einstein-Rosen, both of which are mathematically legitimate solutions of general relativity -- Poplawski admits that only experiment or observation can reveal the motion of a particle falling into an actual black hole. But he also notes that since observers can only see the outside of the black hole, the interior cannot be observed unless an observer enters or resides within.

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/04/100406172648.htm
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:45 PM
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1. "...the interior cannot be observed unless an observer enters or resides within."
I nominate Sarah Palin.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:53 PM
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3. !
:spray:
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anarch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:47 PM
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2. actually, our universe is inside a walnut
that is being gnawed at by a squirrel in another dimension, existing in a universe that is inside a sub-atomic particle making up part of a turtle in yet another overarching universe.

but from there, it's turtles all the way down.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 01:55 PM
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4. It can't be turtles ALL the way down.
Eventually one of those turtles has got to be sitting on a zebra or donkey or something.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:12 PM
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5. I thought it was a rabbit with a pancake on its head...
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:29 PM
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10. Yes, at the bottom.
The zebra is standing on the pancake. And to the zebra, the pancake looks like a massive field of golden grain.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:30 PM
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11. But they could be m o c k turtles..
.. sitting on a cheshire cat.

;-)
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:37 PM
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12. You underestimate the power of turtles!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:37 PM
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13. My question is, who is having sex with the last box turtle?
Santorum would usually get dibs, but unfortunately he's stuck in our Universe.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:18 PM
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24. The turtles are inside other turtles.
Or a zebra or a donkey or something.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:13 PM
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6. So is this saying our "Big Bang" may have been the result of a black hole
forming in another larger universe?

This kind of stuff fascinates me, even as it makes my poor little brain hurt.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:14 PM
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7. It hurts my brain too. :)
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 05:02 PM
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23. Ditto!!!
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:05 PM
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27. BRAIN FREEZE... er... something!!
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:40 PM
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14. I think it would also mean our Universe is infinitely dense and infinitely small
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 02:43 PM by tridim
Which is odd since our observations predict the exact opposite.

My guess is that we know about 1% of what will eventually be knowable.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 09:03 PM
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25. About the only thing we do know is that we don't know shit.
:hi:
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:15 PM
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8. But it's all made out of vibrating strings right?
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 02:16 PM by StClone
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:24 PM
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9. And that vibration say Om
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:44 PM
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15. Our universe could be a single quark or boson. That would put a whole new
perspective on the question about how many angels could dance on the head of a pin........

kestrel's view of the universe: sort of a klein bottle or mobius strip setup, lol. Where smallest IS largest.

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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:47 PM
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16. Wasn't this a stoned convo w/Donald Sutherland in Animal House?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:52 PM
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18. Hehe, I just saw it the other day..
He actually said that one atom might be our entire "solar system", then he said the solar system is our "universe". Then I saw his ass.

Must have been bad Mexican brick weed.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 09:07 PM
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26. I thought the same thing!
:smoke:
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qb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 02:50 PM
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17. Horton Hears a Who!
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MilesColtrane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 03:14 PM
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19. That would have to have been a gianormous, universe-sized black hole.
While this theory seems logical, since it's untestable, it's really more metaphysics than physics.

Since time itself started with the Big Bang, any theory about what happened before it will always be guesswork.

I personally think the Big Bang was preceded by the Big Foreplay.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:53 PM
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22. "the big foreplay"
:rofl:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:46 PM
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20. Just a nitpick, but this is speculation, not "research".
Research requires actual observation and experiment.
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:48 PM
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28. .
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RagAss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 04:52 PM
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21. Semantics......it's all one thing.
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