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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 09:35 AM
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Concentration camps, Reeducation Camps, Extermination Camps, WHY ALL THREE?
I've heard conservative extremists spouting fear Obama is going to start rounding up conservatives and putting them in reeducation camps or concentration camps. But if they are going to be exterminated, then why re-educate them? And how can you 're-educate' someone who has never been educated in the first place? Most conservative extremists are like their radio gods, high school or college dropouts, with IQs lower than the calibers of their guns.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 09:39 AM
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1. I don't know, but here's a thread from yesterday
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 09:39 AM by MineralMan
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:13 AM
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2. First we've got to concentrate em'
you know, keep them all in one place where they can be examined to see if they have the stuff to turn into decent low life welfare loving leftists. If they do, we send them to the re-education camps to read books by Mao and Trotsky and listen to Keith Olbermann for a few years.

Those that can't figure out the new reality or are simply too old to allow us to maintain a functioning gubmint run health care system are sent to the extermination camps where death panels figure out the easiest and most cost-effective way to eliminate them.

Did you not get memo# A3453 a few weeks ago?


:sarcasm: because someone isn't going to figure it out without the tag.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:55 AM
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14. Gee, I thought you were serious until your last line...
A tea bagger would believe everything you wrote, but unfortunately their brains would be fried and never be able to read your entire post. You need to learn to write in three-word sentence bursts with lots of monosyllabic words to cut down on confusion and to make it possible for them to understand. Use stuff like "Bring em on", "Dead or Alive", "Shock and Awe"... Anything longer than a thirty second soundbite fries the two functioning cells they have in their brains.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:32 PM
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18. Teabaggers
as most sheep are surprisingly easy to lead. It's one reason the republicans love jingoistic language, it sounds good to the ears of the guy that's just trying to get by. It makes him feel proud of something even though it's got nothing to do with him and any and all decisions are made so far above his pay grade he'd need oxygen just to read the stuff.

Whooo Hoooo... we're #1. The roof of the trailers leaking, I can't afford to get this lump looked at and the landlord is evicting me but at least we're the toughest SOBs around... USA USA USA

They can also get their heads around big words as long as one of their leaders tell them what it means. Then they start to toss that word into every argument and discussion they have because they think they're smart now.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:18 AM
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3. Because it's all BS. It's the same reason they say liberals are simultaneously...
Communists, anarchists and Nazis.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:19 AM
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4. What mostly amazes me
Is while Bush was president there were quite a few posters on DU talking about how he was going to round up liberals for the FEMA camps.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:00 AM
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7. There are crazies all over the place
as long as there is the potential for a massive well oiled conspiracy there will be people happy to believe in it. At least with this one nobody had to come up with a new conspiracy, they just needed to slap on an Under New Management sign ;-)
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Zywiec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:03 AM
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8. +1 See you at the barricades
:eyes:

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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:16 AM
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12. True but it was a fair thing to state that might have been Bushco's
ultimate goal - while it is silly to say it of the Democratic administration.

They are projecting as usual.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:17 PM
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16. I thought it was pretty silly when people said Bush was going to do it n/t
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:28 AM
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5. Ask yourself why there were "showers" at Dachau
THen be sure to show up for 're-education"...

lol :scared:
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 10:29 AM
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6. It's what Lee Mercer, Jr., would want.
Edited on Thu Apr-08-10 10:31 AM by eppur_se_muova
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:09 AM
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9. All 3!! nt
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:12 AM
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10. Food For Thought Flashback: Homeland Security Contracts for Vast New Detention Camps
A Halliburton subsidiary has just received a $385 million contract from the Department of Homeland Security to provide "temporary detention and processing capabilities."

The contract -- announced Jan. 24 by the engineering and construction firm KBR -- calls for preparing for "an emergency influx of immigrants, or to support the rapid development of new programs" in the event of other emergencies, such as "a natural disaster." The release offered no details about where Halliburton was to build these facilities, or when.

To date, some newspapers have worried that open-ended provisions in the contract could lead to cost overruns, such as have occurred with KBR in Iraq. A Homeland Security spokesperson has responded that this is a "contingency contract" and that conceivably no centers might be built. But almost no paper so far has discussed the possibility that detention centers could be used to detain American citizens if the Bush administration were to declare martial law.

For those who follow covert government operations abroad and at home, the contract evoked ominous memories of Oliver North's controversial Rex-84 "readiness exercise" in 1984. This called for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) to round up and detain 400,000 imaginary "refugees," in the context of "uncontrolled population movements" over the Mexican border into the United States. North's activities raised civil liberties concerns in both Congress and the Justice Department. The concerns persist.

"Almost certainly this is preparation for a roundup after the next 9/11 for Mid-Easterners, Muslims and possibly dissenters," says Daniel Ellsberg, a former military analyst who in 1971 released the Pentagon Papers, the U.S. military's account of its activities in Vietnam. "They've already done this on a smaller scale, with the 'special registration' detentions of immigrant men from Muslim countries, and with Guantanamo."

Plans for detention facilities or camps have a long history, going back to fears in the 1970s of a national uprising by black militants. As Alonzo Chardy reported in the Miami Herald on July 5, 1987, an executive order for continuity of government (COG) had been drafted in 1982 by FEMA head Louis Giuffrida. The order called for "suspension of the Constitution" and "declaration of martial law." The martial law portions of the plan were outlined in a memo by Giuffrida's deputy, John Brinkerhoff.

In 1985, President Reagan signed National Security Decision Directive 188, one of a series of directives that authorized continued planning for COG by a private parallel government.

Two books, James Mann's "Rise of the Vulcans" and James Bamford's "A Pretext for War," have revealed that in the 1980s this parallel structure, operating outside normal government channels, included the then-head of G. D. Searle and Co., Donald Rumsfeld, and then-Congressman from Wyoming Dick Cheney.

After 9/11, new martial law plans began to surface similar to those of FEMA in the 1980s. In January 2002 the Pentagon submitted a proposal for deploying troops on American streets. One month later John Brinkerhoff, the author of the 1982 FEMA memo, published an article arguing for the legality of using U.S. troops for purposes of domestic security.

Then in April 2002, Defense Dept. officials implemented a plan for domestic U.S. military operations by creating a new U.S. Northern Command (CINC-NORTHCOM) for the continental United States. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld called this "the most sweeping set of changes since the unified command system was set up in 1946."

The NORTHCOM commander, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld announced, is responsible for "homeland defense and also serves as head of the North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD).... He will command U.S. forces that operate within the United States in support of civil authorities. The command will provide civil support not only in response to attacks, but for natural disasters."

John Brinkerhoff later commented on PBS that, "The United States itself is now for the first time since the War of 1812 a theater of war. That means that we should apply, in my view, the same kind of command structure in the United States that we apply in other theaters of war."

Then in response to Hurricane Katrina in Sept. 2005, according to the Washington Post, White House senior adviser Karl Rove told the governor of Louisiana, Kathleen Babineaux Blanco, that she should explore legal options to impose martial law "or as close as we can get." The White House tried vigorously, but ultimately failed, to compel Gov. Blanco to yield control of the state National Guard.

Also in September, NORTHCOM conducted its highly classified Granite Shadow exercise in Washington. As William Arkin reported in the Washington Post, "Granite Shadow is yet another new Top Secret and compartmented operation related to the military's extra-legal powers regarding weapons of mass destruction. It allows for emergency military operations in the United States without civilian supervision or control."

It is clear that the Bush administration is thinking seriously about martial law.
Many critics have alleged that FEMA's spectacular failure to respond to Katrina followed from a deliberate White House policy: of paring back FEMA, and instead strengthening the military for responses to disasters.

A multimillion program for detention facilities will greatly increase NORTHCOM's ability to respond to any domestic disorders.

Scott is author of "Drugs, Oil, and War: The United States in Afghanistan, Colombia, and Indochina" (Rowman & Littlefield, 2003). He is completing a book on "The Road to 9/11." Visit his Web site .

http://news.pacificnews.org/news/view_article.html?article_id=eed74d9d44c30493706fe03f4c9b3a77

http://www.projectcensored.org/top-stories/articles/14-homeland-security-contracts-kbr-to-build-detention-centers-in-the-us/

http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13554

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kbr-awarded-homeland-security-contract-worth-up-to-385m
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:15 AM
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11. only the media pundits and politicians would be liquidated (love that term).
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 11:49 AM
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13. "Liquidation" is cool, but those green wafers in Soylent Green looked awfully tasty...
I guess after eating a piece of Soylent Green I could wash it down with a glassful of liquified tea(bagger)...

I had a mentor who had a great idea. He said once a year all politicians should be brought to the stadium where the Washington Redskins used to play their games. Each one would be given a lie detector test on the 50 yard line. If they failed they would have to run from midfield to the end zone while 75,000 'fans' were throwing stones at them. It would be a great spectator sport and I'm sure millions would watch the pay-per-view airing of it.

BTW #1: If by chance a politician passed the polygraph test he would be escorted to safety in one of those caged golf carts you see at driving ranges.

BTW #2: I am not advocating violence like deranged conservative extremists constantly do. I am just recalling an idea from a dear mentor of mine. He was a marine during WWII and was one of the survivors of Iwo Jima.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:02 PM
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15. Wouldn't lower than 357 be smart?
:) Just kidding.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 09:54 PM
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19. That's not 357, it's .357 or put another way 0.357, which isn't 'high'...
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-08-10 12:18 PM
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17. The same stupid shit came from the crazies on our side during the Bush years.
It's all totally ridiculous nonsense.
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