From a Republican..this is Waterloo.."ours" ,David Frum

[Stuart G]

This is the entire post...from Frum's blog.

http://www.frumforum.com/waterloo


"We followed the most radical voices in the party and the movement, and they led us to abject and irreversible defeat.

There were leaders who knew better, who would have liked to deal. But they were trapped. Conservative talkers on Fox and talk radio had whipped the Republican voting base into such a frenzy that deal-making was rendered impossible. How do you negotiate with somebody who wants to murder your grandmother? Or – more exactly – with somebody whom your voters have been persuaded to believe wants to murder their grandmother?

I’ve been on a soapbox for months now about the harm that our overheated talk is doing to us. Yes it mobilizes supporters – but by mobilizing them with hysterical accusations and pseudo-information, overheated talk has made it impossible for representatives to represent and elected leaders to lead. The real leaders are on TV and radio, and they have very different imperatives from people in government. Talk radio thrives on confrontation and recrimination. When Rush Limbaugh said that he wanted President Obama to fail, he was intelligently explaining his own interests. What he omitted to say – but what is equally true – is that he also wants Republicans to fail. If Republicans succeed – if they govern successfully in office and negotiate attractive compromises out of office – Rush’s listeners get less angry. And if they are less angry, they listen to the radio less, and hear fewer ads for Sleepnumber beds.

So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours."
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While it may not seem like a great victory, for all the reasons posted, it really is. If a Repuk feels like the above, we have reason to be proud, no matter what..He tells it all above. They listend to the Rush's of the world, and lost, and they lost big time...

[eleny]

1. He was just on Hardball with Chuck Todd and a guy from Club for Growth

The C for G guy, Andy, laid out his plan regarding HCA and a platform for upcoming elections and how they would go for repeal.

Frum responded that Andy of C for G left out the "magic wishing stones" from his plan and they would be necessary.

[LiberalFighter]

2. So we can thank Windbag for the failure of the Republicans?

Wow!!

[Stuart G]

4. According to Frum, it is the Republicans themselves who

allowed themselves to be hijaked by the Windbag. Hard to believe that a Republican would ever write put this out. But stranger things have happend in politics..

Now I remember back in 07, there was the fairly young black guy, who could really give a speech, and I thought that he could never, I say again,
never get elected to the office of President ..well, I was really wrong, and

maybe an occasional Republican will tell the truth.. odd as that may seem.

[whyverne]

3. Holy crap, that's one of the most intelligent pieces I've read lately.

And I thought all Republicans turned stupid. This is more scary than the t baggers. Insight from the red side.

[Stuart G]

5. It is well written, and honest too. And that is very

rare among their ilk.